anyone visited this yet? whoever was the contractor rushed it or something. so much sloppy work. any thoughts or inside knowledge on what happened here?
Chad Miller
Nov 30, 22 1:01 pm
Got any pics of the sloppy work?
cloudforest888
Nov 30, 22 6:12 pm
see my photos below.
Orhan Ayyüce
Nov 30, 22 1:44 pm
I don't know if they were sloppy but they were dramatic. Looks like they got their money's worth of Morphosis.
metal panel falling off exterior. there's more that weren't even installed. ceiling soffits and panels misaligned and hastily slapped together. more photos to come. this was taken over the last week. not before opening. @chad miller
cloudforest888
Nov 30, 22 6:17 pm
missing cladding. hastily built ceiling. there's more...i just stopped taking pics.
Chad Miller
Dec 1, 22 1:01 pm
Dang. That's sloppy work.
natematt
Nov 30, 22 7:08 pm
A popular architectural meme Instagram account went on a rampage mocking the construction of the project. You can probably guess who.
The big question to me is just to what extent things will eventually be fixed/corrected.
cloudforest888
Nov 30, 22 8:03 pm
what account? yes, i'm wondering what happened though. and also yes, will it be fixed?
sameolddoctor
Nov 30, 22 8:07 pm
DLW
archanonymous
Dec 6, 22 3:55 pm
Having done some work of this type, my guess is that the truly obvious stuff will be fixed. Like the falling off panel. But those ceiling punch items are probably there to stay. The contractor will pressure the client to allow the mistakes to stay, claiming it will cost more money to fix them, even though that's the GCs responsibility. They will point to missing information or mistakes in the drawings, even though I've seen a couple Morphosis sets and they are incredibly well put together and thorough, say what you will of their design sensibility.
natematt
Dec 6, 22 4:32 pm
A lot of this stuff doesn't seem like things you can argue at the drawings about. But yeah going to come down to how the client is.
monosierra
Dec 14, 22 9:17 am
Yeah, the museum chief seems remarkably sanguine about the problems. Maybe the owner's rep was also pretty hands off and left the GC to its own devices.
anyone visited this yet? whoever was the contractor rushed it or something. so much sloppy work. any thoughts or inside knowledge on what happened here?
Got any pics of the sloppy work?
see my photos below.
I don't know if they were sloppy but they were dramatic. Looks like they got their money's worth of Morphosis.
metal panel falling off exterior. there's more that weren't even installed. ceiling soffits and panels misaligned and hastily slapped together. more photos to come. this was taken over the last week. not before opening. @chad miller
missing cladding. hastily built ceiling. there's more...i just stopped taking pics.
Dang. That's sloppy work.
A popular architectural meme Instagram account went on a rampage mocking the construction of the project. You can probably guess who.
The big question to me is just to what extent things will eventually be fixed/corrected.
what account? yes, i'm wondering what happened though. and also yes, will it be fixed?
DLW
Having done some work of this type, my guess is that the truly obvious stuff will be fixed. Like the falling off panel. But those ceiling punch items are probably there to stay. The contractor will pressure the client to allow the mistakes to stay, claiming it will cost more money to fix them, even though that's the GCs responsibility. They will point to missing information or mistakes in the drawings, even though I've seen a couple Morphosis sets and they are incredibly well put together and thorough, say what you will of their design sensibility.
A lot of this stuff doesn't seem like things you can argue at the drawings about. But yeah going to come down to how the client is.
Yeah, the museum chief seems remarkably sanguine about the problems. Maybe the owner's rep was also pretty hands off and left the GC to its own devices.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/13/an-unfinished-frankensteins-monster-the-disastrous-new-orange-county-museum-of-art
Executive summary: Looks good the more you step back
Damn Ollie, you didn't have to kill them. That was savage (but deserved).
It's a richly deserved takedown. Anybody who wants this type of architecture should probably hire Eric Owen Moss instead.
Or better yet Gehry Partners. They can deliver even crazier forms than Morphosis but all the parts will fit together rather nicely.