What's your opinion in terms of both design value and employment opportunities in US, and also the future?
lower.case.yao
May 6, 21 3:25 pm
As populations decline, there will be more demand for healthcare and less for schools.
natematt
May 6, 21 3:25 pm
Healthcare seems like the better bet for employment.
They can both be hit or miss with design quality, not sure I would call it design value, they are both pretty meaningful types of architecture.
Quality varies a lot depending on the TYPE of education. Is it k-12, or higher ed? Higher ED has a lot more diverse and often more high quality construction. K-12 tends to be cheaper and more specific.
Healthcare is interesting because it's really expensive and varies a lot on design quality, but probably never hits the lows of painted CMU walls from the 70s built in 2020 like a K-12 might. So ... depends on the firm.
Personal choice would be a higher end higher ED firm :)
Jay1122
May 6, 21 5:15 pm
Higher Ed is business. Not education. That is what code categorizes them. And I agree. It is all about the profit. You need good buildings to attract the rich kids, put them on loan and collect their future endowment. Higher Ed would be my dream sector. But most of the commissions get taken by the big corporations firms.
Peter Normand
May 6, 21 8:02 pm
Both have huge bureaucracies to deal with, but I think K-12 education is more cut throat and fraught with shifting budgets (always shifting down it seems).
If you like to learn about science and complex processes and systems healthcare design may be the way to go. There is so much in a hospital or clinic that you will never stop learning something new and interesting. For example we had to use plastic screws and wood to build the space for radio imaging and found out that a lot of ceramic tile has trace amounts of metals in it. Also fun fact MRI machines are huge magnets that must be kept cool, they use liquid helium and when the power goes out, the generator fails and the internal batteries run out they explode a bit and supper cold gas escapes (hopefully through a properly designed quench vent), it can cause steel beams to shatter from the cold or instantly turn someone into a Popsicle like in that scene from the James Bond movie Golden Eye.
K-12 education is fairly standard from project to project where healthcare has so much variety within a single project. K-12 you can do it with a small team, in healthcare you need a bigger team of specialist.
What's your opinion in terms of both design value and employment opportunities in US, and also the future?
As populations decline, there will be more demand for healthcare and less for schools.
Healthcare seems like the better bet for employment.
They can both be hit or miss with design quality, not sure I would call it design value, they are both pretty meaningful types of architecture.
Quality varies a lot depending on the TYPE of education. Is it k-12, or higher ed? Higher ED has a lot more diverse and often more high quality construction. K-12 tends to be cheaper and more specific.
Healthcare is interesting because it's really expensive and varies a lot on design quality, but probably never hits the lows of painted CMU walls from the 70s built in 2020 like a K-12 might. So ... depends on the firm.
Personal choice would be a higher end higher ED firm :)
Higher Ed is business. Not education. That is what code categorizes them. And I agree. It is all about the profit. You need good buildings to attract the rich kids, put them on loan and collect their future endowment. Higher Ed would be my dream sector. But most of the commissions get taken by the big corporations firms.
Both have huge bureaucracies to deal with, but I think K-12 education is more cut throat and fraught with shifting budgets (always shifting down it seems).
If you like to learn about science and complex processes and systems healthcare design may be the way to go. There is so much in a hospital or clinic that you will never stop learning something new and interesting. For example we had to use plastic screws and wood to build the space for radio imaging and found out that a lot of ceramic tile has trace amounts of metals in it. Also fun fact MRI machines are huge magnets that must be kept cool, they use liquid helium and when the power goes out, the generator fails and the internal batteries run out they explode a bit and supper cold gas escapes (hopefully through a properly designed quench vent), it can cause steel beams to shatter from the cold or instantly turn someone into a Popsicle like in that scene from the James Bond movie Golden Eye.
K-12 education is fairly standard from project to project where healthcare has so much variety within a single project. K-12 you can do it with a small team, in healthcare you need a bigger team of specialist.
Just my experience so far.
Over and OUT
Peter N