I have a customer interested in building multiples of the same structure - in addition to time for a new site plan based on the new site, what kind of fee would you charge for a duplicate design?
Non Sequitur
Dec 7, 20 11:07 pm
the same as the first one. Liability is the same.
senjohnblutarsky
Dec 8, 20 9:04 am
They're never the same. Maybe you don't charge full price, but expect there to be cost associated with changes, permitting, approvals, and other irritations.
gibbost
Dec 8, 20 10:50 am
Agree with those above. Your client doesn't plan to charge any less for his/her service from one building to the next. Don't be fooled by an owner that suggests that it's simply a 'copy/paste' job. (Side note: I once had a restauranteur come to me a year after completing a project and say that he wanted to build another one across town. 'Same thing, different location' he said. He assumed a steep discount. I asked him if he planned to serve the same menu at a discount in the new location. I could see the light bulb go on and he agreed to a similar fee as the first project).
SneakyPete
Dec 8, 20 1:20 pm
Excellent.
apscoradiales
Dec 8, 20 11:50 am
You could charge him on an hourly bases. What you can re-use charge him to do "save-as", and printing costs. What you have to do from scratch - like the site plan, site services, permits, tendering, inspections, etc. charge him an hourly rate.
Also speak to the consultants to make sure they're on the same page as you and as your client.
Don't be greedy, after all he came back to you for another project.
Who knows, he may come back for some more later. So, be nice.
x-jla
Dec 8, 20 1:05 pm
I would charge an initial full design fee, then a flat base fee per reuse, then an hourly fee for whatever site specific variables, etc...
x-jla
Dec 8, 20 1:12 pm
Use your regular contract for initial design, then have a Reuse agreement that stipulates a price per re-use, and sets an hourly rate for site specific adjustments and submittals. I would also add some type of language that prevents the developer from reusing the plans without your involvement.
K80_OR
Dec 8, 20 1:33 pm
Thanks everyone! We're going to go with 20% off what the original design cost, and that will only include site plan changes.
I have a customer interested in building multiples of the same structure - in addition to time for a new site plan based on the new site, what kind of fee would you charge for a duplicate design?
the same as the first one. Liability is the same.
They're never the same. Maybe you don't charge full price, but expect there to be cost associated with changes, permitting, approvals, and other irritations.
Agree with those above. Your client doesn't plan to charge any less for his/her service from one building to the next. Don't be fooled by an owner that suggests that it's simply a 'copy/paste' job. (Side note: I once had a restauranteur come to me a year after completing a project and say that he wanted to build another one across town. 'Same thing, different location' he said. He assumed a steep discount. I asked him if he planned to serve the same menu at a discount in the new location. I could see the light bulb go on and he agreed to a similar fee as the first project).
Excellent.
You could charge him on an hourly bases. What you can re-use charge him to do "save-as", and printing costs. What you have to do from scratch - like the site plan, site services, permits, tendering, inspections, etc. charge him an hourly rate.
Also speak to the consultants to make sure they're on the same page as you and as your client.
Don't be greedy, after all he came back to you for another project.
Who knows, he may come back for some more later. So, be nice.
I would charge an initial full design fee, then a flat base fee per reuse, then an hourly fee for whatever site specific variables, etc...
Use your regular contract for initial design, then have a Reuse agreement that stipulates a price per re-use, and sets an hourly rate for site specific adjustments and submittals. I would also add some type of language that prevents the developer from reusing the plans without your involvement.
Thanks everyone! We're going to go with 20% off what the original design cost, and that will only include site plan changes.