Hi everyone, I am working on my application to cooper union for architecture -- I don't really know a whole lot about architecture and have been doing a lot of research but one of the prompts is:
Compose a two-dimensional space with selections from the following elements:
POINTS LINES PLANES
Use ONE of the following organizational concepts:
BLUR INTERSECTION EXPANSION REFLECTION
I mostly I am having trouble with what the organizational concepts are referring to, any help would be greatly appreciated!
White_Snowman
Jan 27, 20 1:25 am
Are these two different prompts or are you creating a two-dimensional space and also using one of the organizational concepts?
The first one sounds like they're asking for a floor plan or the design for an outdoor environment. The second sounds like it's cueing you for some sort of design element within the overall plan.
I'm new to this stuff too, but that'd be my takeaway if it were mine to do.
ediej
Jan 27, 20 10:11 am
its all one prompt, but that is true the outdoor environment might be what they are asking for, thank you!
Volunteer
Jan 27, 20 6:39 am
"Space", by definition, is three dimensional. A two dimensional surface has no volume. If they wanted you to make a floorplan they should have said so. Giving you a choice of four words as 'orgazational concepts' with widely different possible meanings is bush.
ediej
Jan 27, 20 10:13 am
true, most of the prompts they give are super broad. I think i am going to draw a parastitic style 'expansion' off of a building. i didnt even think of space saying it was three dimensional, that was dumb of me. thank you!
Menona
Jan 27, 20 12:41 pm
I would say, they're not specifically looking for a floor plan or anything decidedly architectural. Look to abstract painting and draw from that. Point Line Plane are basic elements of art. The others are techniques or devices for deploying those elements.
Look to work by Joan Miro or Kaspar Malevich (sp?) for starters. Then find other artists in their era & tradition and ask those questions of thier wor (intersection blur etc). This prompt isn't about architecture specifically. It's more abstract than that.
drums please, Fab?
Jan 27, 20 1:27 pm
this might cause more harm than good, but in addition to Miro and Malevich (M-n-M ha!) you should also be familiar with Daniel Libeskind's Chamber Works. It's basically one approach to this design excercise. I think he did these while at Cranbrook so there you go.
And yes, 2-D has 'space'. There is no question that 2-D has space. You do NOT need the third dimension to talk about 'space'.
( o Y o )
Jan 27, 20 3:10 pm
Space is 3-dimensional. Accordingly there is no such thing as a 2-dimensional space.
The solution is to make up whatever you want that somehow references the bullshit requirements in some obscure way.
drums please, Fab?
Jan 27, 20 6:00 pm
sorry, boobs, but you couldn't be more wrong. if i draw two parallel lines on a sheet of paper, is there some sort of space between the lines?
it is SHOCKING that anyone on here would argue otherwise.
bowling_ball
Jan 27, 20 8:03 pm
People often confuse "space" with "volume". I think that's part of it.
atelier nobody
Jan 27, 20 8:33 pm
Mathematicians use a number of different definitions of "space", but in architecture we deal almost exclusively with Euclidean/Cartesian space, which is 3-dimensional. 2-dimensional objects can exist within this 3D space, but they are correctly referred to as "planes".
What the hell "BLUR INTERSECTION" and "EXPANSION REFLECTION" mean, I haven't the vaguest clue.
drums please, Fab?
Jan 27, 20 8:58 pm
i believe those are four different organizational concepts, not two. So you pick either blur, intersection, expansion, or reflection and use points, lines, and/or planes to communicate that on a sheet of paper.
this is not a complicated design exercise to understand, people. plus it's Cranbrook, it's supposed to be all abstract and b-s'y.
atelier nobody
Jan 28, 20 4:22 pm
That makes more sense.
archanonymous
Jan 27, 20 5:18 pm
Start by reading "Flatland"
Miles Jaffe
Jan 30, 20 3:13 pm
+++
b3tadine[sutures]
Jan 28, 20 9:55 pm
WHOA! You're doing the HOME TEST and you're here, asking questions?
Stop.
You're not ready.
You won't get in.
And.
This is flawed.
x-jla
Jan 29, 20 11:28 pm
“And yes, 2-D has 'space'. There is no question that 2-D has space. You do NOT need the third dimension to talk about 'space'”
You would technically need the 4th dimension (time) to talk about space. You can’t talk without a time dimension.
2D space is an abstract concept only. It does not exist in the macro physical realm. Even a piece of paper with 2 dots has a volume. Even the sub atomic world is 3D...
drums please, Fab?
Jan 30, 20 10:03 am
you so wrong, man. because we can't even begin to talk about the 4th dimension until we understand the age of aquarius. for this we need the 5th dimension.
OddArchitect
Jan 30, 20 10:42 am
This got deep man . . . like so deep.
x-jla
Jan 30, 20 11:27 am
Can’t draw without a 4th dimension either. The act of drawing requires application of ink over time. The assignment is impossible. Lol
OddArchitect
Jan 30, 20 12:42 pm
The weed you have must be good.
x-jla
Jan 30, 20 3:21 pm
It Is. Medical. One of the only benefits of having a neck fracture and bum knee.
Hi everyone, I am working on my application to cooper union for architecture -- I don't really know a whole lot about architecture and have been doing a lot of research but one of the prompts is:
Compose a two-dimensional space with selections from the following elements: POINTS LINES PLANES
Use ONE of the following organizational concepts: BLUR INTERSECTION EXPANSION REFLECTION
I mostly I am having trouble with what the organizational concepts are referring to, any help would be greatly appreciated!
Are these two different prompts or are you creating a two-dimensional space and also using one of the organizational concepts?
The first one sounds like they're asking for a floor plan or the design for an outdoor environment. The second sounds like it's cueing you for some sort of design element within the overall plan.
I'm new to this stuff too, but that'd be my takeaway if it were mine to do.
its all one prompt, but that is true the outdoor environment might be what they are asking for, thank you!
"Space", by definition, is three dimensional. A two dimensional surface has no volume. If they wanted you to make a floorplan they should have said so. Giving you a choice of four words as 'orgazational concepts' with widely different possible meanings is bush.
true, most of the prompts they give are super broad. I think i am going to draw a parastitic style 'expansion' off of a building. i didnt even think of space saying it was three dimensional, that was dumb of me. thank you!
I would say, they're not specifically looking for a floor plan or anything decidedly architectural. Look to abstract painting and draw from that. Point Line Plane are basic elements of art. The others are techniques or devices for deploying those elements.
Look to work by Joan Miro or Kaspar Malevich (sp?) for starters. Then find other artists in their era & tradition and ask those questions of thier wor (intersection blur etc). This prompt isn't about architecture specifically. It's more abstract than that.
this might cause more harm than good, but in addition to Miro and Malevich (M-n-M ha!) you should also be familiar with Daniel Libeskind's Chamber Works. It's basically one approach to this design excercise. I think he did these while at Cranbrook so there you go.
And yes, 2-D has 'space'. There is no question that 2-D has space. You do NOT need the third dimension to talk about 'space'.
Space is 3-dimensional. Accordingly there is no such thing as a 2-dimensional space.
The solution is to make up whatever you want that somehow references the bullshit requirements in some obscure way.
sorry, boobs, but you couldn't be more wrong. if i draw two parallel lines on a sheet of paper, is there some sort of space between the lines?
it is SHOCKING that anyone on here would argue otherwise.
People often confuse "space" with "volume". I think that's part of it.
Mathematicians use a number of different definitions of "space", but in architecture we deal almost exclusively with Euclidean/Cartesian space, which is 3-dimensional. 2-dimensional objects can exist within this 3D space, but they are correctly referred to as "planes".
What the hell "BLUR INTERSECTION" and "EXPANSION REFLECTION" mean, I haven't the vaguest clue.
i believe those are four different organizational concepts, not two. So you pick either blur, intersection, expansion, or reflection and use points, lines, and/or planes to communicate that on a sheet of paper.
this is not a complicated design exercise to understand, people. plus it's Cranbrook, it's supposed to be all abstract and b-s'y.
That makes more sense.
Start by reading "Flatland"
+++
WHOA! You're doing the HOME TEST and you're here, asking questions?
Stop.
You're not ready.
You won't get in.
And.
This is flawed.
“And yes, 2-D has 'space'. There is no question that 2-D has space. You do NOT need the third dimension to talk about 'space'”
You would technically need the 4th dimension (time) to talk about space. You can’t talk without a time dimension.
2D space is an abstract concept only. It does not exist in the macro physical realm. Even a piece of paper with 2 dots has a volume. Even the sub atomic world is 3D...
you so wrong, man. because we can't even begin to talk about the 4th dimension until we understand the age of aquarius. for this we need the 5th dimension.
This got deep man . . . like so deep.
Can’t draw without a 4th dimension either. The act of drawing requires application of ink over time. The assignment is impossible. Lol
The weed you have must be good.
It Is. Medical. One of the only benefits of having a neck fracture and bum knee.