What do empty cells mean here? No rating required? What difference is there between "0" and an empty cell?
SneakyPete
Oct 24, 19 1:50 pm
There's more than 30 feet between the occupancies. There's no need for a rated wall. I would assume they used 0's elsewhere because the cell has multiple values and leaving it blank would cause more confusion. Seems they underestimated the issue.
Zbig
Oct 24, 19 1:52 pm
My printed edition of the 2015 code has zeros on that line. The online free version of 2015 and 2018 doesn't have anything like in your image. I imagine that there is no requirement for rating under 602.
LittleRed
Oct 24, 19 3:15 pm
Thanks! This is actually a screen shot of my view of the free online 2018 version - and there are many instances of similar blank cells in there. SO weird.
It's almost like the code was written by the same sorts of folks who commonly miss errors during the QA/A+QM portion of CDs. ;)
atelier nobody
Oct 24, 19 2:14 pm
Oh, you sweet Summer child...it's so much worse than that. Codes are written by committees of those people.
liberty bell
Oct 24, 19 3:39 pm
LOL, atelier nobody!!
SneakyPete
Oct 24, 19 4:21 pm
It's one of the reasons
why I support upcodes.
Janosh
Oct 27, 19 10:51 am
You all are welcome to complain about it (I get it). However, having just gotten home from the Las Vegas ICC Public Comment hearings, my guess is that there were less than ten other practicing architects participating in person in the code development process. If only a tiny fraction of the effort expended complaining about the ICC was spent actually working on code reform we would have an entirely different (and better) built environment and profession.
What do empty cells mean here? No rating required? What difference is there between "0" and an empty cell?
There's more than 30 feet between the occupancies. There's no need for a rated wall. I would assume they used 0's elsewhere because the cell has multiple values and leaving it blank would cause more confusion. Seems they underestimated the issue.
My printed edition of the 2015 code has zeros on that line. The online free version of 2015 and 2018 doesn't have anything like in your image. I imagine that there is no requirement for rating under 602.
Thanks! This is actually a screen shot of my view of the free online 2018 version - and there are many instances of similar blank cells in there. SO weird.
https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IBC2018P2/chapter-6-types-of-construction
Mine also has a 0 in that spot!
It's almost like the code was written by the same sorts of folks who commonly miss errors during the QA/A+QM portion of CDs. ;)
Oh, you sweet Summer child...it's so much worse than that. Codes are written by committees of those people.
LOL, atelier nobody!!
It's one of the reasons why I support upcodes.
You all are welcome to complain about it (I get it). However, having just gotten home from the Las Vegas ICC Public Comment hearings, my guess is that there were less than ten other practicing architects participating in person in the code development process. If only a tiny fraction of the effort expended complaining about the ICC was spent actually working on code reform we would have an entirely different (and better) built environment and profession.
Thanks all! Glad there's consensus.