I have been a licensed practicing Architect for 20 years and have often wondered about the possibility of students being able to succeed in Architecture school while also participating in a major sport.
I was a student athelete in Highschool (captain of Football Team and Wrestler) with a passion for Football, Architecture and design. I didn’t receive a football scholarship so I had to rely on loans, aid and mom/pop to pay tuition. I wanted to play college football and be a an architect but everyone told me how demanding Architecture school was and that I would not be able to do both Architecture and a sport. I was also told that if I injured my hands that I wouldn’t be able to draw and would fail Architecture school.
I attended Penn State in the 80’s when they were national champions and or contenders. Architecture studio class was daily from 1:00 PM till 5:30 PM. Football practice was daily from 3:00PM till 6:00PM, while the games and travel were typically an all day Saturday event.
I succeeded in studio, because I put the necessary time and effort in which included week nights past 5:30 PM and at least one entire weekend day. So, I did not have the time that major college athletics requires. While in Architecture school at PSU in the 80’s no one had time for sports and few had time for fraternities/ sorrorities, although there was one athelete in the Landscape Arch program.
I also attended graduate school at another university and that school discouraged the students from participating in sports too. One kid there wanted to do crew but was told that he could not do both Arch and Crew.
Do you know of Arch schools where it’s possible to be successful as an athelete and student? I do know that Andrew Luck was able to do so at Stanford a few years ago, however his program was not a 5 year BArch like my program.
Would Architecture programs that encourage other outside activities produce better Architects?
senjohnblutarsky
Jan 2, 19 8:04 am
When I was at Virginia Tech we had one track athlete, and one volleyball player, that I knew of. There may have been more. We also had one Hokie Bird Mascot.
Neither the Track or volleyball player were the shining stars of studio. I'd have paced one in the low middle range and the other in the low range.
The mascot did well enough. I don't think that hindered his performance.
BulgarBlogger
Jan 2, 19 8:37 am
Athletics do not belong in academic programs.
Non Sequitur
Jan 2, 19 8:54 am
I've never understood the american obsession with athletics above academics. How many future architects were playing yesterday in the rose bowl?
Miles Jaffe
Jan 2, 19 9:29 am
Archtiecture school and American football are actually quite similar as both result in brain damage.
Peter Normand
Jan 2, 19 1:04 pm
It is possible, but you need an academic program that has a commitment to work life balance. The same time constraints and demands of sports would be in play for parents, people involved in the community and people caring for an elder.
I did ok in studio A student while producing radio and TV shows, being on the board of the local transit district, student government, chair of the arts council and community radio station board member in undergrad and graduate school. The key thing is managing your time but most importantly is to become efficient at making and sticking to decisions. Most of my studio mates who struggled with deadlines and time management worked hard but did not stick to their decisions or took a long time to decide what to do similar to writers block. The parents and athletes in my studio often were fast to decide what path they are taking on an assignment and did not hesitate to dig in and develop their idea. Sometimes they had so much lead time by virtue of starting right away that they could afford to trash an idea and start over with plenty of time to finish.
Over and OUT
Peter N
gwharton
Jan 21, 19 5:50 pm
I rowed freshman varsity crew my first year in architecture school. The time and energy demands were just too large to do both, so I gave up the rowing and stuck with academics for the remainder of my time in school. This is a fairly common story for architecture students with athletic interests. You switch away from competitive team sports to personal recreation sports pretty quick when they run up against studio work.
RaleighJake
Jan 3, 23 9:28 am
I graduated from LSU with a B-Arch in 1981, played football on scholarship 4 years from 1975-1978, starting offensive lineman for 2 of the 4 years.
B-Arch was a 5-year program, took me 6 years to complete. In the middle of the program, I did not participate in design studio for a single year because the afternoon 5-day schedule was in conflict with football practice. The remaining football years I simply pushed through by working early mornings and late-late nights in the studio (just like a real student in architecture).
Had some very interesting conversations with football staff regarding my semester coursework loads in architecture, they were insistent on "dumbing down" courses to achieve higher GPA...I refused by explaining that the pre-med footballers had no issues. BTW, our starting 5 offensive linemen became an architect, 2 orthopedic surgeons, 1 dentist, 1 business major...not too shabby!
It can be done, but you have to sacrifice ALL social activities other than architecture and your chosen sport. It is worth the effort!
ill_will
Jan 3, 23 10:09 am
I tried playing water polo, but my grades suffered the first year.
I also wasn't very good, but there were a few other arch students, so we found a way that worked out. I probably could have made more cool projects if I hadn't joined but I don't regret the journey.
monosierra
Jan 3, 23 10:30 am
The guy who left OMA to found REX was an Olympic rower while doing his M.Arch IIRC.
Janosh
Jan 4, 23 12:10 am
Competed in the trials for the 1996 Olympics. Extraordinary nonetheless.
I have been a licensed practicing Architect for 20 years and have often wondered about the possibility of students being able to succeed in Architecture school while also participating in a major sport.
I was a student athelete in Highschool (captain of Football Team and Wrestler) with a passion for Football, Architecture and design. I didn’t receive a football scholarship so I had to rely on loans, aid and mom/pop to pay tuition. I wanted to play college football and be a an architect but everyone told me how demanding Architecture school was and that I would not be able to do both Architecture and a sport. I was also told that if I injured my hands that I wouldn’t be able to draw and would fail Architecture school.
I attended Penn State in the 80’s when they were national champions and or contenders. Architecture studio class was daily from 1:00 PM till 5:30 PM. Football practice was daily from 3:00PM till 6:00PM, while the games and travel were typically an all day Saturday event.
I succeeded in studio, because I put the necessary time and effort in which included week nights past 5:30 PM and at least one entire weekend day. So, I did not have the time that major college athletics requires. While in Architecture school at PSU in the 80’s no one had time for sports and few had time for fraternities/ sorrorities, although there was one athelete in the Landscape Arch program.
I also attended graduate school at another university and that school discouraged the students from participating in sports too. One kid there wanted to do crew but was told that he could not do both Arch and Crew.
Do you know of Arch schools where it’s possible to be successful as an athelete and student? I do know that Andrew Luck was able to do so at Stanford a few years ago, however his program was not a 5 year BArch like my program.
Would Architecture programs that encourage other outside activities produce better Architects?
When I was at Virginia Tech we had one track athlete, and one volleyball player, that I knew of. There may have been more. We also had one Hokie Bird Mascot.
Neither the Track or volleyball player were the shining stars of studio. I'd have paced one in the low middle range and the other in the low range.
The mascot did well enough. I don't think that hindered his performance.
Athletics do not belong in academic programs.
I've never understood the american obsession with athletics above academics. How many future architects were playing yesterday in the rose bowl?
Archtiecture school and American football are actually quite similar as both result in brain damage.
It is possible, but you need an academic program that has a commitment to work life balance. The same time constraints and demands of sports would be in play for parents, people involved in the community and people caring for an elder.
I did ok in studio A student while producing radio and TV shows, being on the board of the local transit district, student government, chair of the arts council and community radio station board member in undergrad and graduate school. The key thing is managing your time but most importantly is to become efficient at making and sticking to decisions. Most of my studio mates who struggled with deadlines and time management worked hard but did not stick to their decisions or took a long time to decide what to do similar to writers block. The parents and athletes in my studio often were fast to decide what path they are taking on an assignment and did not hesitate to dig in and develop their idea. Sometimes they had so much lead time by virtue of starting right away that they could afford to trash an idea and start over with plenty of time to finish.
Over and OUT
Peter N
I rowed freshman varsity crew my first year in architecture school. The time and energy demands were just too large to do both, so I gave up the rowing and stuck with academics for the remainder of my time in school. This is a fairly common story for architecture students with athletic interests. You switch away from competitive team sports to personal recreation sports pretty quick when they run up against studio work.
I graduated from LSU with a B-Arch in 1981, played football on scholarship 4 years from 1975-1978, starting offensive lineman for 2 of the 4 years.
B-Arch was a 5-year program, took me 6 years to complete. In the middle of the program, I did not participate in design studio for a single year because the afternoon 5-day schedule was in conflict with football practice. The remaining football years I simply pushed through by working early mornings and late-late nights in the studio (just like a real student in architecture).
Had some very interesting conversations with football staff regarding my semester coursework loads in architecture, they were insistent on "dumbing down" courses to achieve higher GPA...I refused by explaining that the pre-med footballers had no issues. BTW, our starting 5 offensive linemen became an architect, 2 orthopedic surgeons, 1 dentist, 1 business major...not too shabby!
It can be done, but you have to sacrifice ALL social activities other than architecture and your chosen sport. It is worth the effort!
I tried playing water polo, but my grades suffered the first year.
I also wasn't very good, but there were a few other arch students, so we found a way that worked out. I probably could have made more cool projects if I hadn't joined but I don't regret the journey.
The guy who left OMA to found REX was an Olympic rower while doing his M.Arch IIRC.
Competed in the trials for the 1996 Olympics. Extraordinary nonetheless.