I'm finishing my second to last year of undergrad with the intent (and hope) of getting into a M.arch program and becoming an architect. the sticking point is that I would like to get a sleeve tattoo for my graduation, but I'm not sure if architecture is ... shall I say artsy enough for a most times covered but big tattoo to fly.
(or allow me to get hired.)
nothing racy or inappropriate, it would be roses and a crow in black ink. (I did BFA for undergrad tasteless is not in my vocabulary. loud yes. tasteless no.)
TLDR - big but tasteful sleeve tattoo, mostly covered by long sleeves. hired or fired?
something similar -
pintrest find, no idea
mightyaa
May 4, 18 3:44 pm
I know plenty of architects & engineers with sleeve tattoos. I have a feeling though it may be more of a regional thing.
shellarchitect
May 4, 18 3:45 pm
seems like a big risk to me.
Wouldn't get you fired, but won't help get you hired
but then I have always worked in pretty stogy places
Gloominati
May 4, 18 3:49 pm
It depends on the firm. If it's visible then yes it will be a problem for some. In one conservative old firm that I worked in, the Principal in that branch wouldn't hire anybody with any visible tattoos, no matter how small. He had a lot of other rules/hangups besides tattoos.
In some - maybe most - other firms it won't matter. But before deciding that you'd never, ever work in a really conservative firm anyway, just also consider that architecture is notorious for cyclical downturns, so there are likely to come some times in your working life when, if you want to keep working in architecture firms rather than temporarily or permanently switch fields, you may have to take jobs you wouldn't choose during better times.
Also as a woman in architecture I'd question whether it will always be practical to keep that covered in professional settings. Sometimes I have to attend work-related semi-formal events, dinners, etc., and wouldn't ordinarily choose long sleeves in summer, though I guess that's not impossible. Again it would depend on the type of firm, projects that they do, and your role there whether those types of events would be an issue. Just consider flexibility for future career/role/setting changes.
Wood Guy
May 4, 18 3:49 pm
It would move you to the front of the line in my book. But I'm not a big firm kind of guy. And I have tattoos.
geezertect
May 4, 18 3:51 pm
It's definitely a generational thing. Small one probably OK, but I would say generally to stay away. This fad will go the way of all fads, and then you'll have the problem of getting rid of it. Somebody is going to make a fortune removing those things in a few years. Hmmm, come to think of it, that might be a possibility for these "what else can I do?" postings.
citizen
May 4, 18 5:29 pm
Exactly. But there's always Turlington's Tattoo Remover from SNL. (Watch for comparison of the same tat @ age 20 then 65. Brrrrrrrrr.)
Le Courvoisier
May 4, 18 3:59 pm
I mean, you're putting a crow so just say it's a tribute to Corbu.
Non Sequitur
May 4, 18 4:09 pm
Visible ink has been discussed in my office in a negative way only by the name partner, who is now approaching 70. The remaining management folks don't seem to care but there is always that "will you be exposed to clients" part. Depends on how conservative the client and partners are.
archinet
May 4, 18 4:51 pm
I would just cover it up for formal meetings and interviews, and on days where there are no meetings, clients or principals coming in you are probably ok if some tattoos are visible.
Rusty!
May 4, 18 5:12 pm
You need to read Adolf Loos "Ornament and Crime". Buildings with ornaments on them are indistinguishable from low level criminals who have tats.
Is that how you want to be remembered Howard Roark?
bowling_ball
May 4, 18 5:28 pm
I have two forearms full of branding. I wear short sleeves most days, including in meetings with clients. I recognize that it may not be to everyone's taste, but not everybody else's style is to my own.
If you want it and you're ready, go for it. You can always wear long sleeves. Not the end of the world!
Wilma Buttfit
May 4, 18 6:01 pm
Somehow it seems a woman would get away with this better than a man. I would still here you.
proto
May 4, 18 6:17 pm
portland would be unimpressed if you had no tats
Derek Askari duPont
Oct 10, 18 11:35 pm
good to hear.
archanonymous
May 4, 18 9:38 pm
Could you just do a 3/4 sleeve then wear more business-professional attire at work?
That has been my approach, and I've not had problems. By the time you are at the spa getting beat with birch branches with a client, you are past that.
OneLostArchitect
May 4, 18 9:44 pm
I would advise against it. A lot of owners frown upon tats in my opinion. Especially the principals I work with. I don’t have any tats personally but don’t have issues with people that do. However I feel that certain people still have stigmas on them. Just be wise on locations and being able to wear clothing to conceal them.
randomised
May 5, 18 2:50 am
If you can't be yourself at a firm, maybe it's the wrong firm to be applying to in the first place. Go to interviews with your tattoos showing and see how it goes...
bowling_ball
May 5, 18 9:32 am
Maybe a better approach (one that I used) was to conceal everything for the first 6 months while I worked my ass off. Then once I wore short sleeves, nobody cared because I had been doing a good job. I haven't looked back
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geezertect
May 5, 18 10:23 am
^^Sounds good in theory but you may be stuck in a firm that isn't "approopriate" for you when the market is shitty.
bowling_ball
May 11, 18 12:00 pm
That's true, regardless of tattoos.
BulgarBlogger
May 5, 18 12:17 pm
On th bright side- when you get fired/layed-off, you can immediately find a jib at Trader Joe’s ;)
starling
May 11, 18 12:59 am
I think the bigger question is are you sure you will still want this tattoo in 10 years? Still regret mine...
To answer your question, I don’t think people care about that too much anymore. A few guys at my firm have them and show them on casual days. We used to have a policy against beards too, that’s done also. If you are well groomed and/or attractive you can get away with pretty much anything.
Almosthip7
May 11, 18 10:52 am
I have lots of tattoos all over my body. But everyone of them are cover-able for a professional world. None of my clients would have any idea that I have a full sleeve on my right arm, or a piece that runs from my toes up to my thigh. I keep them covered at work.
randomised
May 11, 18 11:10 am
It's like hiding under a burqa to not entice sexual advances of people with eyes.
Almosthip7
May 11, 18 12:50 pm
Ya kinda, I live in a conservative area. I also have the catholic school board as a client.
bowling_ball
May 11, 18 12:06 pm
An informal poll tells me that 8 out of my 19 fellow employees have tattoos. This is just from what I've seen in casual observation - there may be more that I don't know about. Like I said, I have very visible branding that I don't hide unless I'm in a meeting with a new client. I have stretched earlobes (over 1" at one point).
Just FYI.
Non Sequitur
May 11, 18 1:09 pm
No face tats? how pedestrian.
bowling_ball
May 12, 18 3:04 pm
I know a 60 year old architect in NYC with 100% of his face tattooed.
jodiehigson
Jun 23, 20 6:54 pm
I'm researching and I'm doing civil engineering then possibly structural engineering or architecture but do you reckon they will allow a labret piercing?.
JonathanLivingston
May 11, 18 1:11 pm
Man I always thought it would be cool to have a sleeve comprised of drawings of completed proejcts. A tat-foilo. Roll up sleeve point to project.... :like this one?"
But..... once you complete some projects you realize the luster and allure of the design is gone some. And i would imagine needing a lot of thin line work which doesn't hold up so well in tattoos. I can imagine some detail drawings being used to create fun tats. I don't think anyone at my mid size west coast firm of about 50 people would have a problem with tattoos. Could even be an asset to help exhibit your creative personality.
citizen
May 11, 18 1:22 pm
Sweet! Parapet flashing detail on calf... "see how the sheet metal drip bends with my veins?"
Non Sequitur
May 11, 18 1:28 pm
I actually find that idea pretty interesting. Mundane typical detail prominently displayed? what's not to love?
curtkram
May 11, 18 5:39 pm
i could just see getting something like a tyvek detail tatooed on, then in a few years you switch to fluid applied and noone knows what your detail is anymore.
curtkram
May 11, 18 5:40 pm
depending on the detail, maybe you'll have to redline your tattoo in a couple years - X it out and big red letters write "insulation goes on the outside"
citizen
May 11, 18 5:49 pm
Please cloud and delta all revisions.
Miles Jaffe
May 11, 18 6:15 pm
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citizen
May 11, 18 6:34 pm
Where are the labels and leaders?
(That's an awesome shot. Plus, I originally typed "column enclosure" before changing it to parapet. Good work, Miles!)
BulgarBlogger
May 11, 18 5:53 pm
What happens if you tattoo a cheat sheet on yourself and bring it into the ARE testing room? Lol
citizen
May 11, 18 6:02 pm
"Please leave the disqualifying limb in your locker during testing."
sameolddoctor
May 11, 18 5:59 pm
Pics or it didnt happen.
Miles Jaffe
May 11, 18 7:23 pm
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Archlandia
May 12, 18 3:02 am
I have a tattoo sleeve that stops at my wrist. Just wear a long sleeve shirt during the interview like a normal human being would and you'll be fine. It depends on the office culture for normal wear, but the offices I've worked at don't seem to mind if I wear short sleeves on occasion.
randomised
May 13, 18 4:46 am
Management
BayG
May 13, 18 6:30 pm
I could never grasp on why people want to permanently damage their skin with tattoos or think they are pretty. Most people would never commit to having the same art pieces on their walls for the rest of their life, but think that in 10-20 years they will still love what they tattooed on themselves? Isn't that assuming one's believes and likings will never change and isn't that a stagnation towards self improvement? I canot help but think all tattoos and piercing are a cry for attention and in some way lack of confidence. Also, if one have to cover themselves in certain ocasions, isn't that admitting that in some way those tattoos are shamful and you cannot stand by what you believe is beautiful. If you have it, own it.
Non Sequitur
May 14, 18 8:41 am
Are you done yelling at those damn kids to get off your lawn grandpa?
Archlandia
May 14, 18 3:01 am
@BayG the only shameful thing is that certain people (like yourself) try force their own political/religious/morals opinions on others. If you don't understand why someone would want to "damage their skin"... mind your own business, and don't worry about it. You're really just showcasing your ignorance.
BayG
May 14, 18 3:36 pm
So you can express your views, but all that do not agree with them cannot? Not forcing anything more than anybody else that posted here. Answering somebody's question and maybe if you read it without so much hate, you will see that there is not forcing anything - "if you have, own it" means don't hide it.
bowling_ball
May 14, 18 5:41 pm
Put another way, do you know what the difference is between those with tattoos and those without?
Those with tattoos don't give a fuck because they understand that somebody else's decision to decorate their own body doesn't hurt them.
Over the long history of human civilization, those without body modification are the exception, not the rule. Each and every culture modifies their bodies to some extent.
austin_tayshus
May 14, 18 6:31 pm
You protest too much. Not everyone with tats is an "I don't give a fuck, I'm that awesome" pioneer. Some do it because of alcohol, or, god forbid, trendiness. And if all the tattooed were such iconoclast heroes, the tat-removal industry wouldn't be bigger than tattooing itself.
So, be proud of your tattoos, branding, butt plug, whatever. Good for you. But don't throw yourself a parade. (And, yes, if hair cutting, shaving, make-up, and earrings are counted, body modification has been booming.)
bowling_ball
May 14, 18 6:47 pm
I worked in the tattoo industry for 10 years, pioneering many body modification techniques. I actually do know what I'm talking about.
bowling_ball
May 14, 18 6:48 pm
As for the removal industry being bigger than the tattoo industry, that's very obviously false. The metric they tend to use is dollars. Removal is much, much more expensive than the original tattoo.
bowling_ball
May 14, 18 6:49 pm
And lastly for you, why do you care about somebody else's motivations? What does that have to do with you? And why do you care? If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anybody, then I say go for it.
austin_tayshus
May 14, 18 7:21 pm
Agreed, and I don't care. Go for it, yes. I was responding to 1) the silly pile-on against someone who dared have a contrary opinion. (But then, this is the web, after all.) And 2) the lionizing as heroic anyone who staggers into a tattoo parlor after too many beers and Schnapps.
citizen
May 14, 18 11:16 pm
^ Since when?
bowling_ball
May 15, 18 1:05 am
What's my research? Oh, I don't know. Maybe being an industry leader for an entire decade. WTF are you talking about? I'm not going to apologize for not cutting and pasting Wikipedia articles like you do, Rick.
bowling_ball
May 15, 18 3:33 am
I'm not going to dignify any of your nonsense with an answer. I'll only say that your very first assumption, that I was a tattoo artist, is incorrect. Therefore your entire argument falls apart, you fucking moron. BTW I didn't read any of your verbal diarrhea because I don't give a fuck about anything you have to say. Literally nothing. How's that for scientific rigor?
On the fence
May 14, 18 3:59 pm
When the tattoo is visable, I think your chances go down. How much? Unknown, depends on the firm I suppose but they wont tell you this. It just is.
You make decisions, you live with them. We all do.
bowling_ball
May 14, 18 5:48 pm
This is my old friend Nick, an architect who may now be retired (haven't spoken to him in a few years) and enjoying the many millions of dollars he made buying and renovating brownstones in Harlem, NY.
He is also gay, which much like his tattoos, apparently offends some people.
Non Sequitur
May 14, 18 7:53 pm
I don't mind the face tats... I do draw the line at the stretched nostrils...
natematt
May 14, 18 7:12 pm
I work at a corporate office with about 90 people. At least a quarter have tattoos. Most are not that large and visible, but there are exceptions with a couple people having large numbers of visible tattoos.
On the flip side, I know architects who might not hire you based on this, some people just are not ok with it, but most of those people are not worth working for.
Archlandia
May 15, 18 2:48 am
How many people on here don't have a tattoo.... and wear khakis/cargo pants? And wear a phone holster on their belt? And have more hair on the back of their head than the front? And drive a Pt cruiser? And work on projects in only AutoCAD?
Non Sequitur
May 15, 18 7:20 am
Not many M&E p.engs here.
Brusketa
May 15, 18 6:56 am
Well, you always can hide such tattoo with long sleeves. You may loose opportunity to get hired by conservative firm or close to government or other with strict dress code. But, do you want to be a part of a such firm?
Archlandia
May 15, 18 10:40 am
@Non Sequitur haha touché
x-jla
May 15, 18 12:29 pm
I have a bunch of tattoos. Kinda wish I didn’t have so many...gets annoying looking at same pics everyday... Usually Wear long sleeves until I get to know the clients. I got them all when I was 17-20 and fortunately they are not bad looking...just a bunch of plants, flowers....which is fitting as a landscape designer...most of my friends are covered with neck and hand tattoos and all...some clients and firms judge for whatever dumb reasons...but whatever...I also have vitiligo on my hands and neck and have had some idiots make comments...not sure why people are so obsessed over other people’s skin. Makes no sense.
Wilma Buttfit
May 15, 18 12:46 pm
Most people are just overgrown 1st graders. They don't know any better.
dominiond
May 28, 18 10:39 pm
As a person who does a lot of interviewing/hiring, I am less likely to consider a person for a position when there are spelling mistakes, a picture of themselves on their CV and graphic design layout errors in their portfolio versus having tattoos.
We are creatives and it is your choice on how you want to express your creativity.
Its a non issue as far as I'm concerned, I have piercing whllatt I'm planning to also get tattoos in non visible locations aka not my face.
clairemk
Jan 24, 19 9:39 pm
as a female architect with tons of visible tattoos, a half-sleeve is no big deal, and completely normal in the industry by this point. I have never had trouble getting a job, most employers think it makes me cool and edgy, and they want to project that into the world... i have even worn short sleeves to a corporate -ish job interview and gotten the job. I'm also of the opinion that i wouldn't want anyone who wouldn't have me because of something as shallow as tattoos.
The one thing is the clients, unfortunately - most institutional clients at least, tend to be more conservative, and it might affect whether your employer wants to put you in front of them or not - to this I would say, go the extra mile to dress well at work and prove that you can appear polished and professional (this is maybe just good advice for everybody) and it shouldn't be a problem. But i also live in Canada: where my partner works at a bank and gets given a hard time for not showing off his tattoos MORE. also, you're only getting a sleeve, no one will batt an eye.
Jaetten
Jun 24, 20 4:23 pm
I have a few, I'm a spiritual person, possibly a 'hippy' and probably a little bit strange. They're on my arms, wifey said no to the Ragnar haircut and head tattoo. :( I suppose that'd limit my career prospects to a reenactor.
I'm finishing my second to last year of undergrad with the intent (and hope) of getting into a M.arch program and becoming an architect. the sticking point is that I would like to get a sleeve tattoo for my graduation, but I'm not sure if architecture is ... shall I say artsy enough for a most times covered but big tattoo to fly.
(or allow me to get hired.)
nothing racy or inappropriate, it would be roses and a crow in black ink. (I did BFA for undergrad tasteless is not in my vocabulary. loud yes. tasteless no.)
TLDR - big but tasteful sleeve tattoo, mostly covered by long sleeves. hired or fired?
something similar -
I know plenty of architects & engineers with sleeve tattoos. I have a feeling though it may be more of a regional thing.
seems like a big risk to me.
Wouldn't get you fired, but won't help get you hired
but then I have always worked in pretty stogy places
It depends on the firm. If it's visible then yes it will be a problem for some. In one conservative old firm that I worked in, the Principal in that branch wouldn't hire anybody with any visible tattoos, no matter how small. He had a lot of other rules/hangups besides tattoos.
In some - maybe most - other firms it won't matter. But before deciding that you'd never, ever work in a really conservative firm anyway, just also consider that architecture is notorious for cyclical downturns, so there are likely to come some times in your working life when, if you want to keep working in architecture firms rather than temporarily or permanently switch fields, you may have to take jobs you wouldn't choose during better times.
Also as a woman in architecture I'd question whether it will always be practical to keep that covered in professional settings. Sometimes I have to attend work-related semi-formal events, dinners, etc., and wouldn't ordinarily choose long sleeves in summer, though I guess that's not impossible. Again it would depend on the type of firm, projects that they do, and your role there whether those types of events would be an issue. Just consider flexibility for future career/role/setting changes.
It would move you to the front of the line in my book. But I'm not a big firm kind of guy. And I have tattoos.
It's definitely a generational thing. Small one probably OK, but I would say generally to stay away. This fad will go the way of all fads, and then you'll have the problem of getting rid of it. Somebody is going to make a fortune removing those things in a few years. Hmmm, come to think of it, that might be a possibility for these "what else can I do?" postings.
Exactly. But there's always Turlington's Tattoo Remover from SNL. (Watch for comparison of the same tat @ age 20 then 65. Brrrrrrrrr.)
I mean, you're putting a crow so just say it's a tribute to Corbu.
Visible ink has been discussed in my office in a negative way only by the name partner, who is now approaching 70. The remaining management folks don't seem to care but there is always that "will you be exposed to clients" part. Depends on how conservative the client and partners are.
I would just cover it up for formal meetings and interviews, and on days where there are no meetings, clients or principals coming in you are probably ok if some tattoos are visible.
You need to read Adolf Loos "Ornament and Crime". Buildings with ornaments on them are indistinguishable from low level criminals who have tats.
Is that how you want to be remembered Howard Roark?
I have two forearms full of branding. I wear short sleeves most days, including in meetings with clients. I recognize that it may not be to everyone's taste, but not everybody else's style is to my own.
If you want it and you're ready, go for it. You can always wear long sleeves. Not the end of the world!
Somehow it seems a woman would get away with this better than a man. I would still here you.
portland would be unimpressed if you had no tats
good to hear.
Could you just do a 3/4 sleeve then wear more business-professional attire at work?
That has been my approach, and I've not had problems. By the time you are at the spa getting beat with birch branches with a client, you are past that.
I would advise against it. A lot of owners frown upon tats in my opinion. Especially the principals I work with. I don’t have any tats personally but don’t have issues with people that do. However I feel that certain people still have stigmas on them. Just be wise on locations and being able to wear clothing to conceal them.
If you can't be yourself at a firm, maybe it's the wrong firm to be applying to in the first place. Go to interviews with your tattoos showing and see how it goes...
Maybe a better approach (one that I used) was to conceal everything for the first 6 months while I worked my ass off. Then once I wore short sleeves, nobody cared because I had been doing a good job. I haven't looked back
.
^^Sounds good in theory but you may be stuck in a firm that isn't "approopriate" for you when the market is shitty.
That's true, regardless of tattoos.
On th bright side- when you get fired/layed-off, you can immediately find a jib at Trader Joe’s ;)
I think the bigger question is are you sure you will still want this tattoo in 10 years? Still regret mine...
To answer your question, I don’t think people care about that too much anymore. A few guys at my firm have them and show them on casual days. We used to have a policy against beards too, that’s done also. If you are well groomed and/or attractive you can get away with pretty much anything.
I have lots of tattoos all over my body. But everyone of them are cover-able for a professional world. None of my clients would have any idea that I have a full sleeve on my right arm, or a piece that runs from my toes up to my thigh. I keep them covered at work.
It's like hiding under a burqa to not entice sexual advances of people with eyes.
Ya kinda, I live in a conservative area. I also have the catholic school board as a client.
An informal poll tells me that 8 out of my 19 fellow employees have tattoos. This is just from what I've seen in casual observation - there may be more that I don't know about. Like I said, I have very visible branding that I don't hide unless I'm in a meeting with a new client. I have stretched earlobes (over 1" at one point).
Just FYI.
No face tats? how pedestrian.
I know a 60 year old architect in NYC with 100% of his face tattooed.
I'm researching and I'm doing civil engineering then possibly structural engineering or architecture but do you reckon they will allow a labret piercing?.
Man I always thought it would be cool to have a sleeve comprised of drawings of completed proejcts. A tat-foilo. Roll up sleeve point to project.... :like this one?"
But..... once you complete some projects you realize the luster and allure of the design is gone some. And i would imagine needing a lot of thin line work which doesn't hold up so well in tattoos. I can imagine some detail drawings being used to create fun tats. I don't think anyone at my mid size west coast firm of about 50 people would have a problem with tattoos. Could even be an asset to help exhibit your creative personality.
Sweet! Parapet flashing detail on calf... "see how the sheet metal drip bends with my veins?"
I actually find that idea pretty interesting. Mundane typical detail prominently displayed? what's not to love?
i could just see getting something like a tyvek detail tatooed on, then in a few years you switch to fluid applied and noone knows what your detail is anymore.
depending on the detail, maybe you'll have to redline your tattoo in a couple years - X it out and big red letters write "insulation goes on the outside"
Please cloud and delta all revisions.
.
Where are the labels and leaders?
(That's an awesome shot. Plus, I originally typed "column enclosure" before changing it to parapet. Good work, Miles!)
What happens if you tattoo a cheat sheet on yourself and bring it into the ARE testing room? Lol
"Please leave the disqualifying limb in your locker during testing."
Pics or it didnt happen.
.
I have a tattoo sleeve that stops at my wrist. Just wear a long sleeve shirt during the interview like a normal human being would and you'll be fine. It depends on the office culture for normal wear, but the offices I've worked at don't seem to mind if I wear short sleeves on occasion.
Management
I could never grasp on why people want to permanently damage their skin with tattoos or think they are pretty. Most people would never commit to having the same art pieces on their walls for the rest of their life, but think that in 10-20 years they will still love what they tattooed on themselves? Isn't that assuming one's believes and likings will never change and isn't that a stagnation towards self improvement? I canot help but think all tattoos and piercing are a cry for attention and in some way lack of confidence. Also, if one have to cover themselves in certain ocasions, isn't that admitting that in some way those tattoos are shamful and you cannot stand by what you believe is beautiful. If you have it, own it.
Are you done yelling at those damn kids to get off your lawn grandpa?
@BayG the only shameful thing is that certain people (like yourself) try force their own political/religious/morals opinions on others. If you don't understand why someone would want to "damage their skin"... mind your own business, and don't worry about it. You're really just showcasing your ignorance.
So you can express your views, but all that do not agree with them cannot? Not forcing anything more than anybody else that posted here. Answering somebody's question and maybe if you read it without so much hate, you will see that there is not forcing anything - "if you have, own it" means don't hide it.
Put another way, do you know what the difference is between those with tattoos and those without?
Those with tattoos don't give a fuck because they understand that somebody else's decision to decorate their own body doesn't hurt them.
Over the long history of human civilization, those without body modification are the exception, not the rule. Each and every culture modifies their bodies to some extent.
You protest too much. Not everyone with tats is an "I don't give a fuck, I'm that awesome" pioneer. Some do it because of alcohol, or, god forbid, trendiness. And if all the tattooed were such iconoclast heroes, the tat-removal industry wouldn't be bigger than tattooing itself.
So, be proud of your tattoos, branding, butt plug, whatever. Good for you. But don't throw yourself a parade. (And, yes, if hair cutting, shaving, make-up, and earrings are counted, body modification has been booming.)
I worked in the tattoo industry for 10 years, pioneering many body modification techniques. I actually do know what I'm talking about.
As for the removal industry being bigger than the tattoo industry, that's very obviously false. The metric they tend to use is dollars. Removal is much, much more expensive than the original tattoo.
And lastly for you, why do you care about somebody else's motivations? What does that have to do with you? And why do you care? If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anybody, then I say go for it.
Agreed, and I don't care. Go for it, yes. I was responding to 1) the silly pile-on against someone who dared have a contrary opinion. (But then, this is the web, after all.) And 2) the lionizing as heroic anyone who staggers into a tattoo parlor after too many beers and Schnapps.
^ Since when?
What's my research? Oh, I don't know. Maybe being an industry leader for an entire decade. WTF are you talking about? I'm not going to apologize for not cutting and pasting Wikipedia articles like you do, Rick.
I'm not going to dignify any of your nonsense with an answer. I'll only say that your very first assumption, that I was a tattoo artist, is incorrect. Therefore your entire argument falls apart, you fucking moron. BTW I didn't read any of your verbal diarrhea because I don't give a fuck about anything you have to say. Literally nothing. How's that for scientific rigor?
When the tattoo is visable, I think your chances go down. How much? Unknown, depends on the firm I suppose but they wont tell you this. It just is.
You make decisions, you live with them. We all do.
This is my old friend Nick, an architect who may now be retired (haven't spoken to him in a few years) and enjoying the many millions of dollars he made buying and renovating brownstones in Harlem, NY.
He is also gay, which much like his tattoos, apparently offends some people.
I don't mind the face tats... I do draw the line at the stretched nostrils...
I work at a corporate office with about 90 people. At least a quarter have tattoos. Most are not that large and visible, but there are exceptions with a couple people having large numbers of visible tattoos.
On the flip side, I know architects who might not hire you based on this, some people just are not ok with it, but most of those people are not worth working for.
How many people on here don't have a tattoo.... and wear khakis/cargo pants? And wear a phone holster on their belt? And have more hair on the back of their head than the front? And drive a Pt cruiser? And work on projects in only AutoCAD?
Not many M&E p.engs here.
Well, you always can hide such tattoo with long sleeves. You may loose opportunity to get hired by conservative firm or close to government or other with strict dress code. But, do you want to be a part of a such firm?
@Non Sequitur haha touché
I have a bunch of tattoos. Kinda wish I didn’t have so many...gets annoying looking at same pics everyday... Usually Wear long sleeves until I get to know the clients. I got them all when I was 17-20 and fortunately they are not bad looking...just a bunch of plants, flowers....which is fitting as a landscape designer...most of my friends are covered with neck and hand tattoos and all...some clients and firms judge for whatever dumb reasons...but whatever...I also have vitiligo on my hands and neck and have had some idiots make comments...not sure why people are so obsessed over other people’s skin. Makes no sense.
Most people are just overgrown 1st graders. They don't know any better.
As a person who does a lot of interviewing/hiring, I am less likely to consider a person for a position when there are spelling mistakes, a picture of themselves on their CV and graphic design layout errors in their portfolio versus having tattoos.
We are creatives and it is your choice on how you want to express your creativity.
Exactly.
Ornament is Crime! Only criminals has tattoos.
are you really sure?
Someone has been reading too much of Corbusier
Its a non issue as far as I'm concerned, I have piercing whllatt I'm planning to also get tattoos in non visible locations aka not my face.
as a female architect with tons of visible tattoos, a half-sleeve is no big deal, and completely normal in the industry by this point. I have never had trouble getting a job, most employers think it makes me cool and edgy, and they want to project that into the world... i have even worn short sleeves to a corporate -ish job interview and gotten the job. I'm also of the opinion that i wouldn't want anyone who wouldn't have me because of something as shallow as tattoos.
The one thing is the clients, unfortunately - most institutional clients at least, tend to be more conservative, and it might affect whether your employer wants to put you in front of them or not - to this I would say, go the extra mile to dress well at work and prove that you can appear polished and professional (this is maybe just good advice for everybody) and it shouldn't be a problem. But i also live in Canada: where my partner works at a bank and gets given a hard time for not showing off his tattoos MORE. also, you're only getting a sleeve, no one will batt an eye.
I have a few, I'm a spiritual person, possibly a 'hippy' and probably a little bit strange.
They're on my arms, wifey said no to the Ragnar haircut and head tattoo. :( I suppose that'd limit my career prospects to a reenactor.