Hi Archinect, what are the ways, if there are any, with a limited budget, to learn as much as possible about architecture, become almost as skilled as an architect, without going to school for architecture? Possibly at some point become skilled enough to intern at an architectural firm? Is there any path, say, going from on-line architecture courses and culminating in studio practice at an accredited school for the final leg? I found some low-residency programs (2 or 3 I forget) but they all require a B.S. in Architecture as prerequisite. I'm coming from a different field which I do like and am working hard on, so I'm not looking to pause everything else and start a 5-year B.Arch although that is the most legitimate way; it's more as a secondary skill I would really like to have. I apologize if this sounds disrespectful to Architecture, I definitely don't mean it that way!
thatsthat
Apr 22, 18 1:01 pm
I'm confused. If you like your current career, and you're working hard to progress in that career, why are you looking to work as an intern at an architecture firm? Most interns and entry-level staff don't really know much, but have the intentions of eventually becoming licensed. It's a lot to put up with if you don't intend to pursue architecture as a career.
jul222
Apr 22, 18 5:26 pm
I don't necessarily want to be the intern, but more as a measure of having a certain level of knowledge. Correct me, but I was also assuming that those entry position are opportunities to learn (so paid to learn! However little -- better than paying to learn at the school).
Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 18 8:38 pm
You're misinformed Jul. Intern/entry positions are the bottom rung once one graduates school. You need a certain baseline of knowledge in building science and professional practice (ie. school) in order to be marginally profitable for your employer. Unpaid gigs are as idiotic as those who take them.
jul222
Apr 22, 18 9:41 pm
Thank you
randomised
Apr 22, 18 1:52 pm
Architecture is not a skill.
mantaray
Apr 22, 18 4:27 pm
Yes I'm confused about what you're really looking for, here?
There are three parts that make up an architectural education:
1) Learning how to THINK (ie, how to actually design: how to think in 3d / spatially, how to conceptualize and organize spaces, how to serve the needs of a building's users -- including the need for beautiful surroundings -- and the broader community in which the building will become a part)
2) Learning how to BUILD (ie: learning all about the nuts and bolts of what makes up a building: how to hold it up so it doesn't fall down, how to keep the elements out of it, how to heat it and cool it, how finish it for human use)
3) Learning how to COMMUNICATE (ie: how to draw and represent all the above in a way that clients can understand it, and ditto for those building it -- two very different recipients of your communications)
In which of the above are you wanting to become educated? #2 is the easiest for self-driven study. #1 is the hardest for self-driven study, and in fact, the hardest, period. #1 is really the reason most folks go to school, because #2 and #3 can be learned in the working life fairly easily -- but #1 can't.
jul222
Apr 22, 18 5:21 pm
Hi mantaray, #2, and less so but also #1. You say #2 is easiest for self study, any pointers for where to start and how to measure progress?
Non Sequitur
Apr 22, 18 8:36 pm
Jul, regarding no2, go work a few months swinging a hammer on a construction site.
jul222
Apr 22, 18 9:42 pm
Ah. Good to know...
tuna
Apr 24, 18 12:23 am
If you don’t want to studying architecture, why don’t you just buy a few books and save yourself the cost of tuition?
Get the International Building Code book and the IBC illustrated handbook. Treat it like a bible. Maybe the ADA standards book too. Sounds like you just want to skip design and just dive right in.
whistler
Apr 24, 18 4:57 pm
In Canada we have a program which is outside the normal school route that has been around for many, many years. It's based on the historic master builder route where you work under a more senior mentor. ( think FLW back in the day with many disciples under his wing learning the ropes) not sure how many active participants there are but probably a few, I used to hear about a few graduates every year. You are a bit handcuffed in the process but realistically I think if you worked with a decent firm you could gain a good level of skill and experience without the debt.
I’m actually supposed to be one of those raic mentors even though I’ve been, and still am, exceptionally critical of the process and work that come out of the syllabus. With that said, I don’t know of any other similar programme outside of Canada. The Op has not clarified where they live.
whistler
Apr 24, 18 5:32 pm
Very interesting, I always thought that by missing school there would always be a knock against the programme and that the student would have missed a key part of their "education as an architect".... social aspect of school, the struggle that is school, formal educational aspects.
whistler
Apr 24, 18 5:32 pm
Very interesting, I always thought that by missing school there would always be a knock against the programme and that the student would have missed a key part of their "education as an architect".... social aspect of school, the struggle that is school, formal educational aspects.
whistler
Apr 24, 18 5:34 pm
I also think about what i didn't learn at school that I should have... i.e. how a set of building plans goes together and detailing.... that only comes from many years of experience.
Hi Archinect, what are the ways, if there are any, with a limited budget, to learn as much as possible about architecture, become almost as skilled as an architect, without going to school for architecture? Possibly at some point become skilled enough to intern at an architectural firm? Is there any path, say, going from on-line architecture courses and culminating in studio practice at an accredited school for the final leg? I found some low-residency programs (2 or 3 I forget) but they all require a B.S. in Architecture as prerequisite. I'm coming from a different field which I do like and am working hard on, so I'm not looking to pause everything else and start a 5-year B.Arch although that is the most legitimate way; it's more as a secondary skill I would really like to have. I apologize if this sounds disrespectful to Architecture, I definitely don't mean it that way!
I'm confused. If you like your current career, and you're working hard to progress in that career, why are you looking to work as an intern at an architecture firm? Most interns and entry-level staff don't really know much, but have the intentions of eventually becoming licensed. It's a lot to put up with if you don't intend to pursue architecture as a career.
I don't necessarily want to be the intern, but more as a measure of having a certain level of knowledge. Correct me, but I was also assuming that those entry position are opportunities to learn (so paid to learn! However little -- better than paying to learn at the school).
You're misinformed Jul. Intern/entry positions are the bottom rung once one graduates school. You need a certain baseline of knowledge in building science and professional practice (ie. school) in order to be marginally profitable for your employer. Unpaid gigs are as idiotic as those who take them.
Thank you
Architecture is not a skill.
Yes I'm confused about what you're really looking for, here?
There are three parts that make up an architectural education:
1) Learning how to THINK (ie, how to actually design: how to think in 3d / spatially, how to conceptualize and organize spaces, how to serve the needs of a building's users -- including the need for beautiful surroundings -- and the broader community in which the building will become a part)
2) Learning how to BUILD (ie: learning all about the nuts and bolts of what makes up a building: how to hold it up so it doesn't fall down, how to keep the elements out of it, how to heat it and cool it, how finish it for human use)
3) Learning how to COMMUNICATE (ie: how to draw and represent all the above in a way that clients can understand it, and ditto for those building it -- two very different recipients of your communications)
In which of the above are you wanting to become educated? #2 is the easiest for self-driven study. #1 is the hardest for self-driven study, and in fact, the hardest, period. #1 is really the reason most folks go to school, because #2 and #3 can be learned in the working life fairly easily -- but #1 can't.
Hi mantaray, #2, and less so but also #1. You say #2 is easiest for self study, any pointers for where to start and how to measure progress?
Jul, regarding no2, go work a few months swinging a hammer on a construction site.
Ah. Good to know...
If you don’t want to studying architecture, why don’t you just buy a few books and save yourself the cost of tuition? Get the International Building Code book and the IBC illustrated handbook. Treat it like a bible. Maybe the ADA standards book too. Sounds like you just want to skip design and just dive right in.
In Canada we have a program which is outside the normal school route that has been around for many, many years. It's based on the historic master builder route where you work under a more senior mentor. ( think FLW back in the day with many disciples under his wing learning the ropes) not sure how many active participants there are but probably a few, I used to hear about a few graduates every year. You are a bit handcuffed in the process but realistically I think if you worked with a decent firm you could gain a good level of skill and experience without the debt.
https://www.raic-syllabus.ca/h...
I’m actually supposed to be one of those raic mentors even though I’ve been, and still am, exceptionally critical of the process and work that come out of the syllabus. With that said, I don’t know of any other similar programme outside of Canada. The Op has not clarified where they live.
Very interesting, I always thought that by missing school there would always be a knock against the programme and that the student would have missed a key part of their "education as an architect".... social aspect of school, the struggle that is school, formal educational aspects.
Very interesting, I always thought that by missing school there would always be a knock against the programme and that the student would have missed a key part of their "education as an architect".... social aspect of school, the struggle that is school, formal educational aspects.
I also think about what i didn't learn at school that I should have... i.e. how a set of building plans goes together and detailing.... that only comes from many years of experience.