Is there an architectural project aimed at giving a solution to conflict due to ethnic disparity?
Marc Miller
Mar 5, 18 11:22 am
This is likely one of the best and worst thesis questions I’ve seen.
The straight forward answer is to do the work and find out.
The long answer, and likely comment you’ll get from everyone else is that’s a silly question, because there is no one ethnic conflict. Which leads back to the first point- you made the question, so you frame it better, you refine it, and you answer it. You don’t come to a group of cynics In the hopes of a lit review.
Non Sequitur
Mar 5, 18 11:46 am
can architecture cure cancer?
Non Sequitur
Mar 5, 18 12:21 pm
is bad thesis subjects a form of cancer?
randomised
Mar 5, 18 12:39 pm
Do you want to bridge the disparity or end the conflict?
Wilma Buttfit
Mar 5, 18 12:41 pm
There is a saying, good fences make good neighbors. Like that?
Josh Mings
Mar 5, 18 12:53 pm
I think it's a fantastic thesis question and a worthwhile topic, but like others have mentioned the question needs further thought out and framed. There are projects out there that try to address this. A couple addressing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict come to mind, but I can't recall the exact names. Pursue it, this could be really damn interesting.
Marc Miller
Mar 5, 18 1:04 pm
shhh Josh. You're doing work for them.
Peter Normand
Mar 5, 18 1:14 pm
There has been for a long time been an urban planning solution for ethnic conflict where there are enclaves for each type of ethnic or religious minority and a few common "Public" places where a city or community interact. I don't think there are many current examples that get to the level of architecture, except for the concept of defensible space meant to curb the rampant crime and violence plaguing american public housing in the 80s and 90s but that was more racial disparity than ethnic.
The other third rail on this topic, in reference to the Palestinians in particular, is that people displaced by war or ethnic cleansing are refugees. That status of being a refugee is a political one and often attempts at building or normalizing their current communities (decades old refugee camps) into something more permanent is seen as settling and giving up the idea that they may return to their "homes". Bear this in mind if doing a project for refugees as buildings that evoke permanence in their refugee camps can be seen as undermining their political struggle.
Over and OUT
Peter N
x-jla
Mar 5, 18 1:48 pm
negative forces have to be overcome by a positive force of some kind. The more powerful the negative force is, the more powerful the positive force will need to be. First, understand the negative forces, sociopolitical, historical, ideological, etc. Pick a situation that is potentially solvable (not too extreme). Second, identify common desires, needs, etc. Third, identify junctions between communities where this can happen naturally. I suspect programming will be far more important than form.
x-jla
Mar 5, 18 1:50 pm
Also, “conflict” is not necessarily a bad thing. Don’t create a “safe space” devoid of conflict. Peaceful Conflict = dialogue. Without dialogue, the exchange of ideas is impossible, and real progress will never be made.
Miles Jaffe
Mar 5, 18 8:17 pm
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shellarchitect
Mar 6, 18 9:49 am
"good fences make good neighbors" - frost
"architecture professors hate fences" - shellarchitect
x-jla
Mar 6, 18 12:04 pm
“Good neighbors don’t need fences”. -jla-x
x-jla
Mar 6, 18 12:06 pm
“Most neighbors suck”
x-jla
Mar 6, 18 12:09 pm
Another solution to a problem that can be fixed by fixing the individual. Make immigration easy...like really easy and affordable...and people will stop hoping the border...and the ones who still do will have obvious bad intentions...makes policing much easier...Too bad Gary Johnson smoked himself stupid. Has some good policies on the matter.
x-jla
Mar 6, 18 12:16 pm
Change the victim mentality that Mexicans are stealing peoples jobs...reframe the argument to fit the reality that they work harder and that’s how a free market works...victim politics of the right are bad for everyone too...well except Trump and the fake patriots.
x-jla
Mar 6, 18 12:17 pm
Rant of the day...:)
shellarchitect
Mar 6, 18 12:39 pm
I like it
Wilma Buttfit
Mar 6, 18 12:43 pm
Do bad fences make bad neighbors?
Marc Miller
Mar 6, 18 1:52 pm
It depends- if they've planted highly invasive plants along the edge...
Is there an architectural project aimed at giving a solution to conflict due to ethnic disparity?
This is likely one of the best and worst thesis questions I’ve seen.
The straight forward answer is to do the work and find out.
The long answer, and likely comment you’ll get from everyone else is that’s a silly question, because there is no one ethnic conflict. Which leads back to the first point- you made the question, so you frame it better, you refine it, and you answer it. You don’t come to a group of cynics In the hopes of a lit review.
can architecture cure cancer?
is bad thesis subjects a form of cancer?
Do you want to bridge the disparity or end the conflict?
There is a saying, good fences make good neighbors. Like that?
I think it's a fantastic thesis question and a worthwhile topic, but like others have mentioned the question needs further thought out and framed. There are projects out there that try to address this. A couple addressing the Israeli/Palestinian conflict come to mind, but I can't recall the exact names. Pursue it, this could be really damn interesting.
shhh Josh. You're doing work for them.
There has been for a long time been an urban planning solution for ethnic conflict where there are enclaves for each type of ethnic or religious minority and a few common "Public" places where a city or community interact. I don't think there are many current examples that get to the level of architecture, except for the concept of defensible space meant to curb the rampant crime and violence plaguing american public housing in the 80s and 90s but that was more racial disparity than ethnic.
The other third rail on this topic, in reference to the Palestinians in particular, is that people displaced by war or ethnic cleansing are refugees. That status of being a refugee is a political one and often attempts at building or normalizing their current communities (decades old refugee camps) into something more permanent is seen as settling and giving up the idea that they may return to their "homes". Bear this in mind if doing a project for refugees as buildings that evoke permanence in their refugee camps can be seen as undermining their political struggle.
Over and OUT
Peter N
negative forces have to be overcome by a positive force of some kind. The more powerful the negative force is, the more powerful the positive force will need to be. First, understand the negative forces, sociopolitical, historical, ideological, etc. Pick a situation that is potentially solvable (not too extreme). Second, identify common desires, needs, etc. Third, identify junctions between communities where this can happen naturally. I suspect programming will be far more important than form.
Also, “conflict” is not necessarily a bad thing. Don’t create a “safe space” devoid of conflict. Peaceful Conflict = dialogue. Without dialogue, the exchange of ideas is impossible, and real progress will never be made.
.
"good fences make good neighbors" - frost
"architecture professors hate fences" - shellarchitect
“Good neighbors don’t need fences”. -jla-x
“Most neighbors suck”
Another solution to a problem that can be fixed by fixing the individual. Make immigration easy...like really easy and affordable...and people will stop hoping the border...and the ones who still do will have obvious bad intentions...makes policing much easier...Too bad Gary Johnson smoked himself stupid. Has some good policies on the matter.
Change the victim mentality that Mexicans are stealing peoples jobs...reframe the argument to fit the reality that they work harder and that’s how a free market works...victim politics of the right are bad for everyone too...well except Trump and the fake patriots.
Rant of the day...:)
I like it
Do bad fences make bad neighbors?
It depends- if they've planted highly invasive plants along the edge...