I'm a chilean architecture student 2 years away from finishing a master and professional degree here. (PUC).
After I finish, I'd like to go study overseas and get another master. I want this master to be about actually building, not very theoretical. I like theory a lot but I feel like I have so much to learn about building.
As a reference, my favorite architects are Zumthor, SANAA, Scarpa, Piano, Bo Bardi. You get the idea.
I want to get another master because I can get a free scolarship and I'd like to use it to know people overseas as I'd like to emigrate to europe in the future.
I like the ETH a lot but my german is way too basic for that, I think.
I've been thinking about some AA programs but not sure.
Ty!
randomised
Aug 23, 17 10:28 pm
If you want to actually build just work and let someone else take that free scholarship, don't be greedy.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 24, 17 12:01 am
To be honest most scholarships aren't used here (government ones).
I think going to a foreign university would be fun too :p
I feel like I if I just hit somewhere straight working I won't have any friends as I feel like you can create stronger bonds with classmates, and so on and so on.
Go to both then, double the fun, double the friends...
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 25, 17 6:58 pm
any special reason for being so harsh?
randomised
Aug 26, 17 4:23 am
I'm not harsh I'm frank. It's all paid for by your government so grab as much of it while you can and enjoy it before it's too late.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 26, 17 7:02 pm
lol, I still have to be young after that to start working, plus it's my family who will pay what I eat.
archietechie
Aug 24, 17 6:10 am
Definitely get a job under a contractor.
Schools' these days are into digital fabrication, not much traditional carpentry.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 24, 17 11:14 am
I'm looking to anything related with how buildings are made, wether hand craft or machine craft :)
archinine
Aug 24, 17 8:31 am
Architects don't build they draw instructions for others to build with. Common misconception
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 24, 17 11:12 am
lol. I have observed that to know how to give instructions of how to build you must know how to build.
archanonymous
Aug 24, 17 9:43 am
Tulane University
Auburn University
ETH Zurich
Cal Poly San Louis Obispo
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 26, 17 6:51 pm
ty!
archinine
Aug 24, 17 1:10 pm
Quite untrue Vicent. Knowing how things are put together in an idealized manner is different than knowing how they are built, and even more so than actually being able to stand in for a carpenter and do said building. Some architects can build things, but certainly not all, and it's rare to learn anything about it in school.
randomised
Aug 25, 17 1:59 am
Need to be careful though, if you know too well how things are supposed to go together you end up being a craftsman and not an architect. Not knowing everything in minute detail can keep you open minded and propose new solutions for problems others wouldn't dream of, simply because they know exactly how it is supposed to be done, not how it alternatively possibly could be done as well, or something.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 25, 17 6:53 pm
This debate could be interesting but this format (online chatting) is not too good for it. Regards.
randomised
Aug 26, 17 4:24 am
The format is excellent!
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 26, 17 6:52 pm
Oh, I enjoy seminars much better. You can't express 20 minutes of talking in this online chat. Plus it's harder to share bibliography.
randomised
Aug 28, 17 5:40 am
Of course you can, you can upload all that talking via youtube and simply copy-paste your bibliography in the comments...
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 28, 17 10:12 pm
you are clever one!
James Petty
Aug 25, 17 12:26 pm
Yale. (Jim Vlock House).
Alternatively, get a job in an architect-led design-build firm.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 25, 17 6:57 pm
Hmm I might have not made myself clear :) Ty for all your answers but with build I don't mean: "normal and traditional building". I know that alredy, my dad is an architect who has a ton of experience in built works. I want to learn new and more advanced ways of building, that's why I gave the example of my favorite architects. Scarpa knew all the craftmen from his region to achieve his works. Piano understands how materials and the industry work. Zumthor knows how to craft his buildings. Sejima knows the steel industry and can do some complicated steel sections and surfaces. And so on and so on. :)
accesskb
Aug 25, 17 11:33 pm
Since you already know 'normal and traditional building', I doubt there is a studio that teaches you how to build at that more advanced ways other than it being theoretical again.. Most of these well known architects learn new techniques and innovate themselves for each of their built projects. I think its more of an attitude or way of working through each project to completion that makes them who they are.
vicentearancibiapena
Aug 26, 17 6:52 pm
good insight :) However, it is the same case with theorics. They do theory and we read it to generate debate and learn new stuff and grow the discipline from there. Why couldn't the same be applied to construction techniques? There even exist these kind of masters, I just wanted to know wether there are some others I might be overlooking.
archinine
Aug 25, 17 9:15 pm
Sounds like what you need is many years experience working for many different styles of architects as was the method of those who you cite. Schools tend to have a particular pedagogy that is often quite narrow, though they vary from school to school. Try working for an architect whom you admire and then another and so on. You'll learn a lot more and get paid in the process. Alternatively research the architects teaching whose work you like and enroll in their courses. Your description is very vague yet you mention specific people, follow those people and learn from them.
Hi everyone.
I'm a chilean architecture student 2 years away from finishing a master and professional degree here. (PUC).
After I finish, I'd like to go study overseas and get another master. I want this master to be about actually building, not very theoretical. I like theory a lot but I feel like I have so much to learn about building.
As a reference, my favorite architects are Zumthor, SANAA, Scarpa, Piano, Bo Bardi. You get the idea.
I want to get another master because I can get a free scolarship and I'd like to use it to know people overseas as I'd like to emigrate to europe in the future.
I like the ETH a lot but my german is way too basic for that, I think.
I've been thinking about some AA programs but not sure.
Ty!
If you want to actually build just work and let someone else take that free scholarship, don't be greedy.
To be honest most scholarships aren't used here (government ones).
I think going to a foreign university would be fun too :p
I feel like I if I just hit somewhere straight working I won't have any friends as I feel like you can create stronger bonds with classmates, and so on and so on.
These two look particulary fitting:
http://www.aaschool.ac.uk/STUD...
https://architecture.mit.edu/b...
Don't they?
Go to both then, double the fun, double the friends...
any special reason for being so harsh?
I'm not harsh I'm frank. It's all paid for by your government so grab as much of it while you can and enjoy it before it's too late.
lol, I still have to be young after that to start working, plus it's my family who will pay what I eat.
Definitely get a job under a contractor.
Schools' these days are into digital fabrication, not much traditional carpentry.
I'm looking to anything related with how buildings are made, wether hand craft or machine craft :)
Architects don't build they draw instructions for others to build with. Common misconception
lol. I have observed that to know how to give instructions of how to build you must know how to build.
Tulane University
Auburn University
ETH Zurich
Cal Poly San Louis Obispo
ty!
Quite untrue Vicent. Knowing how things are put together in an idealized manner is different than knowing how they are built, and even more so than actually being able to stand in for a carpenter and do said building. Some architects can build things, but certainly not all, and it's rare to learn anything about it in school.
Need to be careful though, if you know too well how things are supposed to go together you end up being a craftsman and not an architect. Not knowing everything in minute detail can keep you open minded and propose new solutions for problems others wouldn't dream of, simply because they know exactly how it is supposed to be done, not how it alternatively possibly could be done as well, or something.
This debate could be interesting but this format (online chatting) is not too good for it. Regards.
The format is excellent!
Oh, I enjoy seminars much better. You can't express 20 minutes of talking in this online chat. Plus it's harder to share bibliography.
Of course you can, you can upload all that talking via youtube and simply copy-paste your bibliography in the comments...
you are clever one!
Yale. (Jim Vlock House).
Alternatively, get a job in an architect-led design-build firm.
Hmm I might have not made myself clear :) Ty for all your answers but with build I don't mean: "normal and traditional building". I know that alredy, my dad is an architect who has a ton of experience in built works. I want to learn new and more advanced ways of building, that's why I gave the example of my favorite architects. Scarpa knew all the craftmen from his region to achieve his works. Piano understands how materials and the industry work. Zumthor knows how to craft his buildings. Sejima knows the steel industry and can do some complicated steel sections and surfaces. And so on and so on. :)
Since you already know 'normal and traditional building', I doubt there is a studio that teaches you how to build at that more advanced ways other than it being theoretical again.. Most of these well known architects learn new techniques and innovate themselves for each of their built projects. I think its more of an attitude or way of working through each project to completion that makes them who they are.
good insight :) However, it is the same case with theorics. They do theory and we read it to generate debate and learn new stuff and grow the discipline from there. Why couldn't the same be applied to construction techniques? There even exist these kind of masters, I just wanted to know wether there are some others I might be overlooking.
Sounds like what you need is many years experience working for many different styles of architects as was the method of those who you cite. Schools tend to have a particular pedagogy that is often quite narrow, though they vary from school to school. Try working for an architect whom you admire and then another and so on. You'll learn a lot more and get paid in the process. Alternatively research the architects teaching whose work you like and enroll in their courses. Your description is very vague yet you mention specific people, follow those people and learn from them.
You're right, thank you for your comment!