- must be a plan published by others and noteworthy
- black and white if possible
- you guess correct >>>you post next.
we shall start off easy -
JLC-1
Nov 1, 17 3:50 pm
my turn
threadkilla
Nov 3, 17 12:00 pm
I remember the competition call from Strelka (http://smartschooltender.ru/en), because they were relatively new and I was looking into them around that time (2015). The hint helped a lot because it reminded me of the competition, and since MVRDV didn't win the hint made it a lot easier to identify the design as well. Winning entry: https://cebraarchitecture.dk/p... not sure when the anticipated project completion is, but should be a great thing to watch this 'new smart school system' as it is implemented across Russia and former soviet territories, if this pilot works out
threadkilla
Nov 3, 17 2:36 pm
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JLC-1
Nov 3, 17 2:44 pm
abu dahbi louvre? jean nouvel? not sure
JLC-1
Nov 3, 17 3:41 pm
nope
Evan Chakroff
Nov 3, 17 4:38 pm
sanaa - 21st century museum Kanazawa
Evan Chakroff
Nov 3, 17 4:50 pm
:
Evan Chakroff
Nov 3, 17 5:00 pm
can't resist:
threadkilla
Nov 7, 17 1:03 pm
Tomihiro Art Museum by aat + makoto yakomizo, in Gunma prefecture
Did not know about it (surprisingly, given the complementary affinity of he plan to SANAA's museum of the 21st C). It felt like another Japanese design, and didn't take that mhch digging to find. https://www.archdaily.com/6320...
Evan Chakroff
Nov 7, 17 1:19 pm
circle takes the square!
threadkilla
Nov 8, 17 11:41 am
a few images, for compare/contrast to SANAA's 21st century museum above
interesting to compare this construction photo to the construction photo from Karl Schwanzer's church, above^^^
threadkilla
Nov 8, 17 8:59 am
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threadkilla
Nov 8, 17 11:24 am
yes, aka "Museo Blau".
threadkilla
Nov 8, 17 11:32 am
aka Museum of Natural History
threadkilla
Nov 8, 17 11:46 am
loved going for a run along the beach '
to the Forum and back' with my mates when we studied in Barcelona that one semester. The space under the wedge is completely public, and was (might still be?) a huge skateboarding destination. Talk about 'phenomenal de-materialization'... All the dust settling on the shotcrete made the exterior look pretty gnarly in a less-than-ideal way, though.
yes, it's the Montreal Biosphère by Buckminster Fuller and Shoji Sadao.
I suppose the geodesic dome is a kind of a moat, conceptually.
threadkilla
Nov 10, 17 1:18 pm
if any of the moderators on here could clean up my multipost mess, that would be pretty sweet. for some reason none of the images were displaying when I made the posts last night - might have been an isp issue...
threadkilla
Nov 10, 17 3:31 pm
one building, first and second floor plans
threadkilla
Nov 11, 17 9:39 am
Quite a 'revolutionary' little building, made a bit of a splash in Paris it's time...
threadkilla
Nov 12, 17 4:56 pm
That time was one for a "new spirit", as per Le Corbusier, who also made quite a provocative little building for the same occassion. Some sources claim that Corb has said this one (the posted plan), was the only one of the bunch really worth looking at.
threadkilla
Nov 13, 17 2:58 pm
There's also a house by the same architect posted earstwhile in this thread
a-f
Nov 14, 17 9:01 am
Your post was littered with clues so it was easy to remember Melnikow's Soviet pavillion!
threadkilla
Nov 15, 17 11:14 am
Yes, the USSR pavilion at the 1925 Paris International Exhibition of Modern Decorative and Indistrial Arts by Konstantin Melnikov
Feels like a Niemeyer or a Lina Bo Bardi?... No time to research today
threadkilla
Nov 22, 17 1:48 pm
I was wrong with that hunch. Hints?
a-f
Nov 22, 17 2:58 pm
The architect might have visited the Soviet Pavilion since he was living in Paris at that time. This is his most known, unbuilt, work. Most of his career involved teaching in the US.
Danlazop
Dec 5, 17 8:14 pm
Is the architect american
?
a-f
Dec 6, 17 6:00 am
Yes, american, but living for a while in France.
Clue:
Danlazop
Dec 6, 17 7:05 am
Great clue! Haha. It's Paul Nelson's Madison Suspendeu:
Not familiar with his work, really cool work.
Danlazop
Dec 6, 17 7:07 am
Maison Suspendeu* ... freaking autocorrect...
threadkilla
Dec 6, 17 12:54 pm
I'm not familiar with this architect at all. What a fantastic project! Reminds me a lot of the Jorn Utzon Cobra Art Museum project earlier in the thread, with all those free-floating ramps. Dimaxion Bathrooms!!!
Danlazop
Dec 8, 17 8:03 am
ok, more suspended stuff:
Danlazop
Dec 10, 17 5:23 pm
bump
Danlazop
Dec 12, 17 7:47 am
This project was never built. But came to influence a whole generation of architects in the late 60's. Two of them became quite big with a project that directly referenced it.
a-f
Dec 15, 17 4:34 am
Cedric Price's Fun Palace
a-f
Dec 15, 17 4:37 am
Influencing Centre Pompidou, which is more visible if you study the original competition proposal, although I miss the traveling crane at the top.
a-f
Dec 15, 17 4:39 am
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Non Sequitur
Dec 15, 17 8:42 am
Love it
Danlazop
Dec 15, 17 6:48 am
correct!
That last montage is very Pompidouesque. And even though it never got built, Price did get to use some of its ideas in the InterAction Centre at Kentish Town in 1976.
threadkilla
Jan 12, 18 3:03 pm
bump. a-f do you have one to post?
a-f
Jan 16, 18 6:05 am
Yes, let's revive this thread!
threadkilla
Jan 18, 18 7:46 pm
Nice! It kind of reminded me of Aalto's Säynätsalo Town Hall, but I knew it was a different project, so was looking into Aalto hoping for clues. Turns out this campus is currently part of Aalto University! For recent photos and a walkthrough writeup: http://elec.aalto.fi/en/current/news/2017-11-08-003/
a-f
Jan 19, 18 3:54 am
Correct, the Aalto University would have been part of my first clue of course, but in the end it wasn't necessary. This kind of research is what makes the thread worthwhile!
a-f
Jan 19, 18 3:54 am
The entrance facade is beautiful. The excavated shapes look impressive in plan but are a bit underwhelming in reality.
Non-Sequitur should probably know this one for sure :)
threadkilla
Jan 21, 18 2:22 pm
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threadkilla
Jan 21, 18 7:33 pm
I thought this might be a somewhat easy one, but perhaps the image clues are not enough (though they get me to the project in two clicks with google)...
This much-decorated architect was one of the first to implement CAD for design and documentation, and this project pretty much kick-started his career...
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Jan 21, 18 11:20 pm
Is it the Douglas J. Cardinal Performing Arts Centre by Douglas Cardinal?
threadkilla
Jan 21, 18 11:43 pm
You have the right architect! But the wrong building, although both are assembly spaces, and are in the same province. The amber stag is hinting at the right location.
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Jan 21, 18 11:54 pm
St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church in Red Deer.
threadkilla
Jan 22, 18 1:52 am
bingo! it's our own Little Ronchamp on the Praries :)
"Father Merx had a vision of a church that could carry the very abstraction of the Spirit of the Church, past present and future. He hired Architect Douglas Cardinal and together while listening to Bach’s organ music they designed a church around the new liturgy.
The
church thus stands as a monument to spirituality. Based on the ideas of
the first Christian gatherings before the cruciform basilica plan was
created, Father Merx environed a design centered in the Eucharist, the
symbol of Christ’s Living. An oculus to the altar and the tabernacle
directs natural light as a symbol of divine light. The amorphous
ceiling, a technical feat of the times, creates the acoustics to carry
the Word of Christ without microphones. Even the confessional’s unique
design using tempered glass to allow in the light of the altar inspires
deep spiritual reconciliation."
a few more wise words from Douglas Cardinal, best known for his design for the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Ottawa:
"I have always maintained that the endeavours of all Canadians should be directed towards a betterment of the human condition. Therefore in my role as planner and architect, and as the coordinator of technologists, I see a tremendous opportunity to petition the needs of the individual and to reinstate our humanness as the most important element in all of our efforts. I have found that by placing the needs of the human being before the systems that modern man has created, we can ensure that man is indeed served by these systems rather than becoming a slave to them."
The complexity of his serpentine architectural forms presents difficult geometrical problems; his church at Red Deer, for example, required 82,000 simultaneous equations to design the tent-like roof structure. To solve these and to accommodate the dynamic process of design, involving frequent changes in technical drawings and the repetitive procedures involved in producing updated sets of drawings, CAD was a natural answer. It gives accuracy, speed, and coordination, releasing staff from tedious manual drafting tasks to devote more time to design refinements. By itself, of course, it cannot guarantee a better building - that responsibility remains with the creative skill of the architect.
Wow, that's pretty impressive! Love those 'Beam me up Scotty' apertures :)
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Jan 22, 18 7:57 am
Interesting building and architect!
a-f
Jan 23, 18 4:02 am
Yes, what an incredibly weird sci-fi architecture! Me gusta.
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Jan 22, 18 7:34 am
Next:
threadkilla
Jan 22, 18 9:26 pm
very Miesian, almost
like an abbreviated Tugendhat house
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Jan 22, 18 11:03 pm
It's not Mies, or a house; however, it is in Europe. It's also somewhat related to my first contribution in this thread.
a-f
Jan 23, 18 3:35 am
A chapel of some sorts? Related to Lewerentz but no Asplund...
a-f
Jan 23, 18 3:40 am
Yes, it is Bernt Nyberg's Klockarebacken chapel! I've seen that church hall before...
Choices of materials and details are sometimes very Lewerentz, the plan not so much.
a-f
Jan 23, 18 3:58 am
I've been trying to find any book on Nyberg's work for a while but it's impossible.
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Jan 23, 18 7:56 am
There are two, an exhibition catalog, Endangered Architecture: The Work of Bernt Nyberg, and a+u's 2017 September issue featuring monographic coverage of Nyberg's work.
The a+u is sold out now; however, the editor of the catalog, Matt Hall, Assistant Professor of Architecture at Auburn, might be able to help you.
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Jan 23, 18 8:02 am
There's also a podcast episode, which is in Swedish and English:
Ah, I didn't know there was an a+u of his work. Thanks for the help!
threadkilla
Jan 23, 18 11:37 am
Holy mortar joints, that's some hella fuzzy detailing! Def. seeing the Lewerentz reference in surface materiality, but maintin that the plan has a strong Miesian feel to it. Nice contrast to the brickwork in my post,
as well
A couple of hints: this project was completed within a decade of the Museum für Kunsthandwerk competition and was intended by the architects to compliment the architecture of one of the oldest European-established cities in the southeastern United States.
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Feb 4, 18 1:28 pm
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Marc Miller
Feb 4, 18 12:58 pm
clark menefee
Marc Miller
Feb 4, 18 1:06 pm
To be specific - the Middleton I
nn in Charleston
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Feb 4, 18 1:26 pm
Yes! Please claim your prize!
Marc Miller
Feb 4, 18 5:48 pm
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threadkilla
Feb 4, 18 7:00 pm
is this the plan for the unbuilt Greek Orthodox Church by Herzog and DeMeuron?
Marc Miller
Feb 4, 18 8:14 pm
No, this was built
Marc Miller
Feb 4, 18 8:52 pm
Correct- it’s not Siza
Evan Chakroff
Feb 5, 18 8:22 pm
How about
Herz Jesu Kirche, Munich, Architect: Allmann Sattler Wappner, 2000
Evan Chakroff
Feb 5, 18 8:33 pm
:
Marc Miller
Feb 5, 18 9:14 pm
Yep indeed.
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 3:12 pm
that's a pretty cool double skin facade project. or is more like a triple skin facade?
this glass panel detail, designed by glass artist Alexander Beleschenko (which i grabbed from http://figure-ground.com/herz-...) is also really cool - apparently the images of nails are arranged to form an inscription (in cuneiform script) of Christ’s Passion from the St John’s Gospel
this is the Herzog&DeMeuron church I thought it was - I think these two projects are pretty close...
Marc Miller
Feb 5, 18 6:08 pm
Hint, completed in 2000.
Evan Chakroff
Feb 5, 18 8:31 pm
next:
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 2:15 pm
Giovanni Michelucci, the Church of San Giovanni Battista, 1960-64
aka Church of the Motorway / Chiesa dell'Autostrada del Sole
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 2:28 pm
a project of seemingly infinite complexity
Evan Chakroff
Feb 6, 18 2:35 pm
yep
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 3:20 pm
this moneyshot detail didn't post for some reason
threadkilla
Feb 7, 18 3:28 pm
this plan always made me think of combustion engines - perhaps appropriate for a church for wayfarers that also commemorates the workers who died building the highway that its immediately adjacent to...
Evan Chakroff
Mar 21, 18 7:36 pm
nice read!
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 3:01 pm
next:
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 7:01 pm
hints: this architect is certainly less well known than some of his contemporaries like Mies van der Rohe, with whom he shared an office for a time, despite his role in establishing some pretty significant architectural organizations and his contributions to debates on and around the philosophy of modernist design
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 9:19 pm
yes, probably the best cowshed in the world, here's the entire siteplan - but only the building I posted the plan for was ever built
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 9:38 pm
err, scratch that, it's the plan I posted and the adjacent structure that got built - the completely rectangular shed has the lamella roof.
some drawings I found by someone named Diego Lucio
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 11:31 pm
I don't recall if it's in the Frampton book, and my copy is in storage at the moment, but it very well might be. We looked at this project in one of our tech classes in grad school. Häring was one of the co-founders of Der Ring (with Mies) and later CIAM. He was voted in as the secretary of Der Ring, but the group eventually disbanded in part beacause of the rise of the NSDAP and in part because a lot of the members had major disagreements with Häring, who advocated for 'organic functionalism' and a kind of a 'tight-fit' approach to planning over the preference for industrially-driven construction, held by the likes of Walter Gropius, and the kinds of 'universal' spaces that Mies produced.
One architect who was very much aligned with Häring and his design approach was Hans Scharoun. The Gut Garkau farm buildings are considered to be Hugo Häring's main work, together with the Siemensstadt housing block built in a community master-planned by Scharoun.
threadkilla
Feb 6, 18 11:36 pm
The feedlot building plan is completely derived from the functional requirements of the program - organically emerging from the building's function, as it were - despite it's sculptural appearance.
A jump to something very different, and maybe a project not so known. Clues will come if it is too difficult.
danielkragskov
Feb 10, 18 10:21 am
I recon it is a tad difficult. Maybe a facade can help?
danielkragskov
Feb 10, 18 12:40 pm
It is not brutalist. Finished in 1984.
danielkragskov
Feb 11, 18 9:28 am
Yes, but also a lot of eternit plates. The Architecture studio had a saying "it should look cheap, no matter the cost"...
threadkilla
Feb 11, 18 1:11 pm
Is it a trade school, or something like artist live/work studios? The plan actually has some formal affinities with a part of Dipoli and the Clark Menefee Charleston Inn...
danielkragskov
Feb 11, 18 3:59 pm
It is a cooperative with shared workshops, dining hall
etc.
?
Made me think of Gaudi, or perhaps Gunther Domenig, but I'm fairly certain it's neither...
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Feb 18, 18 5:01 pm
This architect was greatly influenced by a major cultural figure from the country in which he decided to practice. This cultural figure was a leader in the push for independence from this architect's home country.
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Feb 18, 18 6:41 pm
It's too new to be Gaudi.
threadkilla
Feb 18, 18 6:55 pm
Yes, that is what I thought... As far as the facade 'scallops' which reminded me of Domenig's Z-Bank in Vienna, when I looked that one up I realised that their orientation in this plan is rotated 90° relative to those, and that these appear more 'regular'. Then I looked up 'British architect in India' based on your clue, and discovered the name of Laurie Baker!
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Feb 18, 18 7:01 pm
Time-wise, the Z-Bank is close.
threadkilla
Feb 18, 18 7:02 pm
And a little more digging reveals this plan to be the Centre for Development Studies, located in Ulloor, Trivandrum, completed in 1971 by Lawrence Wilfred "Laurie" Baker. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Baker
If anyone has nice pictures or drawings, please reply, I'll post a new one to keep things going.
threadkilla
Feb 21, 18 9:38 pm
A building that attempts to answer the question "Where are you, when you are looking at the computer screen?"... there's a really good interview by Toyo Ito, including an in-depth description of this building, here: https://www.designboom.com/architecture/toyo-ito-designboom-interview/
How did you...? I even desaturated it and called it 'a classic' and everything. Well congrats :) You're up.
danielkragskov
Feb 19, 18 1:46 pm
Maybe because it is one the most branded projects of 2017 ;)
danielkragskov
Feb 19, 18 1:55 pm
Another one then:
Could not find it in a better resolution so this will have to do.
threadkilla
Feb 21, 18 9:24 pm
it's a partially subterranean building on a beach, and it looks like it might be surrounded by some sort of ruins - so it's probably an intervention on a historic site or a renovation of some sort... care to give us some more concrete hints?
danielkragskov
Feb 22, 18 3:36 am
Good analysis. All your observations are true. The architect here is in a very special group together with Tadao Ando and SANAA.
Danlazop
Feb 22, 18 10:58 am
The only place where I can think both Ando and Sanaa meet is in Naoshima, but can´t quite figure out what is it what you´re showing in that image. Is that circular plan at the edge of the picture a James Turrel?
danielkragskov
Feb 22, 18 12:00 pm
You are definitely on the right track!
danielkragskov
Feb 22, 18 12:01 pm
But no James Turrel
Danlazop
Feb 22, 18 2:16 pm
It´s the Inujima Seirensho Art Museum by Hiroshi Sambuichi. Man, that took a lot of googling...
danielkragskov
Feb 22, 18 6:47 pm
You are very right! A very under-appreciated architect outside of Japan. Your turn!
Danlazop
Feb 23, 18 9:38 am
I was wondering, did you get to know his work by living/traveling in Japan or otherwise? Because even knowing where to look I probably ended up finding it by chance.
danielkragskov
Feb 23, 18 9:42 am
My University had a collaboration with him, which is why I am aware of his works. I also visited. But the Fukutake Foundation Projects on Inujima, Teschima and Naojima are quite well known and he is very well recognised in Japan as one the greatest architects right now.
Danlazop
Feb 23, 18 10:14 am
Cool. I wasn't familiar with his work, except perhaps the Naoshima Hall that's been more widely published
.
Danlazop
Feb 22, 18 9:20 pm
here we go:
Danlazop
Feb 25, 18 10:41 am
Bump
threadkilla
Mar 1, 18 3:02 pm
Almost looks like a library, but is probably dorms/apartments... The core is distinctly OMA-ish, but this is not an OMA project...
Give us some clues?
Non Sequitur
Mar 1, 18 3:30 pm
I think I know this, but I'll have to cheat to confirm. I believe it's fashion/museum related.
Danlazop
Mar 3, 18 8:50 pm
Sorry the delay, was away without signal for a few days. Anyway, it's not OMA, and is fashion related but not a museum. A cool hint is that its design and construction documents was a very straightforward adaptation of a cancelled project for an american
institution.
Danlazop
Mar 8, 18 3:50 pm
Perhaps some more hints are needed. The project is a headquarters of some sort, and is located in a country that's been in negociations to enter EU for some time now. The architects is an international office based in NY.
Danlazop
Mar 8, 18 5:33 pm
bingo
Danlazop
Mar 8, 18 5:37 pm
...
threadkilla
Mar 9, 18 1:29 pm
what an intense project
Danlazop
Mar 17, 18 2:27 pm
the only image I could find is from your website:
Danlazop
Mar 17, 18 2:58 pm
From the plan
seems before his full blown postmodernist shift.
Danlazop
Mar 17, 18 3:27 pm
Very interesting, gonna have to look for more info to see how the whole thing looked like.
Danlazop
Mar 17, 18 3:26 pm
Let's stick with the brits:
Danlazop
Mar 17, 18 4:24 pm
recently demolished, both greatly reviled and a testament of a bygone era where architecture was used to try to change the world.
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Mar 20, 18 9:40 pm
Is it the Pimlico School, by John Bancroft?
Danlazop
Mar 20, 18 10:32 pm
Correct!
Danlazop
Mar 20, 18 10:43 pm
another cool building by the London County Council in the 60's. I just read Reiner de Graf's book "four walls and a roof" and has a really cool essay about the school and how the LCC worked internally. Worth the read.
Interestingly I see a lot of it in the works of Coop Himmelbleu or even Morphosis. Maybe is just me.
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Mar 21, 18 8:10 am
Next:
Evan Chakroff
Mar 21, 18 6:13 pm
Thorncrown Chapel / E. Fay Jones?
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Mar 21, 18 7:02 pm
Correct!
Evan Chakroff
Mar 21, 18 8:34 pm
next: boxes again
Danlazop
Mar 22, 18 2:31 pm
Perez art museum, by Herzog and De Meuron.
Evan Chakroff
Mar 22, 18 5:39 pm
yep
Danlazop
Mar 22, 18 6:07 pm
I'm on a blank, I would appreciate someone posting a plan for me.
Evan Chakroff
Mar 22, 18 10:38 pm
Well, I could go again: maybe a little more difficult:
threadkilla
Mar 23, 18 4:37 pm
Indian Institute of Business Management, Balkrishna Doshi, 1971
it was kind of easy only because of the obvious peak in interest in this architect's work due to the Pritzker prize award.
also seems to have some shared affinities with Dipoli at the top of the page...
threadkilla
Mar 23, 18 5:04 pm
has anyone else noticed how very few articles featuring Doshi's work in the aftermath of the Pritzker include the plans?
threadkilla
Mar 23, 18 4:56 pm
not straying too far from the above plan
Evan Chakroff
Mar 23, 18 7:39 pm
i know i've seen this before - not exactly the Jaipur city plan with its displaced corner....
threadkilla
Mar 24, 18 1:51 pm
but almost exactly like that! Jaipur is a hot clue
Evan Chakroff
Mar 24, 18 8:34 pm
it was bugging me so i just cheated and looked it up. Oops.
Anyone?
threadkilla
Mar 26, 18 5:31 pm
More hints then: this architect's career shares a number of overlaps with B.V. Doshi's, although their paths are unique. While Doshi was working for Le Corbusier in the 50s, this architect was studying at MIT under the likes of Buckminster Fuller. They are both credited with achieving a uniquely Indian approach for modern design, were both the first Indian architect to receive a prestigious award, and were close friends - Doshi was this man's best man at his wedding...
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Mar 26, 18 6:33 pm
This has been driving me crazy! There are so many possible ways to try to find it: the reference to stepwells, the use of the number nine, the serpent, etc. Anyway, it's the Jawahar Kala Kendra by Charles Correa.
threadkilla
Mar 27, 18 2:09 pm
That's it!
Briver1993
Mar 26, 18 7:38 am
Some of the plans were mind blowing and honestly i can't even answer one of these plans :D
threadkilla
Mar 26, 18 5:49 pm
Sometimes you just gotta go with a hunch or follow the research trail laid out by hints. Hopefully this thread gets people to read and remember plans better. I got the Doshi school building in Bangalore because I was looking up plans to his buildings last week out of curiosity, and thought it was kind of funny that there was a pool or platform shaped like a winter sock or a boot in plan. I still haven't found a photo of what that space looks like, but the act f looking for it has helped me remember the drawing and building... Unless we get into the deep cuts and B-sides (which I love), I hope most people who paid any attention to arch history or theory should know at least one plan per page in this thread. Thanks again to Chris for starting this - it keeps me coming back to the forum, even when it seems that its dumpster fire season around here :)
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Mar 27, 18 8:18 am
I was going to stay in India; however, I can't find the plan I'm looking for, so...
threadkilla
Mar 27, 18 2:10 pm
We had this one on page 2 already ;) perhaps Apple Chris can post one...
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Mar 27, 18 2:34 pm
Oops, missed that; yes, Apple Chris, please post one.
Danlazop
Mar 29, 18 11:13 pm
Bump!
randomised
Mar 30, 18 9:51 am
I knew that one looked familiar.
"""1991"
Apr 9, 18 4:30 pm
Might be a little easy. The one I originally wanted to post was already used
Danlazop
Apr 9, 18 8:19 pm
I know this one, but i’m curious about how well known the work of this architect is outside of Latin America (hint, hint).
Marc Miller
Apr 17, 18 8:33 am
Vasconcelos Library / Alberto Kalach
Marc Miller
Apr 17, 18 8:33 am
Vasconcelos Library / Alberto Kalach
"""1991"
Apr 17, 18 9:35 am
Yup
"""1991"
Apr 11, 18 11:26 pm
**bump**
"""1991"
Apr 14, 18 7:00 pm
it was shut down for nearly 2 year’s shortly after opening because of construction issues
guidelines (Federal!)
- must be a plan published by others and noteworthy
- black and white if possible
- you guess correct >>>you post next.
we shall start off easy -
my turn
I remember the competition call from Strelka (http://smartschooltender.ru/en), because they were relatively new and I was looking into them around that time (2015). The hint helped a lot because it reminded me of the competition, and since MVRDV didn't win the hint made it a lot easier to identify the design as well. Winning entry: https://cebraarchitecture.dk/p... not sure when the anticipated project completion is, but should be a great thing to watch this 'new smart school system' as it is implemented across Russia and former soviet territories, if this pilot works out
.
abu dahbi louvre? jean nouvel? not sure
nope
sanaa - 21st century museum Kanazawa
:
can't resist:
Tomihiro Art Museum by aat + makoto yakomizo, in Gunma prefecture
Did not know about it (surprisingly, given the complementary affinity of he plan to SANAA's museum of the 21st C). It felt like another Japanese design, and didn't take that mhch digging to find. https://www.archdaily.com/6320...
circle takes the square!
a few images, for compare/contrast to SANAA's 21st century museum above
interesting to compare this construction photo to the construction photo from Karl Schwanzer's church, above^^^
.
yes, aka "Museo Blau".
aka Museum of Natural History
loved going for a run along the beach ' to the Forum and back' with my mates when we studied in Barcelona that one semester. The space under the wedge is completely public, and was (might still be?) a huge skateboarding destination. Talk about 'phenomenal de-materialization'... All the dust settling on the shotcrete made the exterior look pretty gnarly in a less-than-ideal way, though.
enough triangles, here's another one of these
https://imgur.com/zUzrd7E
did we break archinect image posting?
just trying to post a pretty picture...
Is that a moat around it?
yes, it's the Montreal Biosphère by Buckminster Fuller and Shoji Sadao.
I suppose the geodesic dome is a kind of a moat, conceptually.
if any of the moderators on here could clean up my multipost mess, that would be pretty sweet. for some reason none of the images were displaying when I made the posts last night - might have been an isp issue...
one building, first and second floor plans
Quite a 'revolutionary' little building, made a bit of a splash in Paris it's time...
That time was one for a "new spirit", as per Le Corbusier, who also made quite a provocative little building for the same occassion. Some sources claim that Corb has said this one (the posted plan), was the only one of the bunch really worth looking at.
There's also a house by the same architect posted earstwhile in this thread
Your post was littered with clues so it was easy to remember Melnikow's Soviet pavillion!
Yes, the USSR pavilion at the 1925 Paris International Exhibition of Modern Decorative and Indistrial Arts by Konstantin Melnikov
here's a few more images of the pavilion :)
and more infor for the curious reader: https://thecharnelhouse.org/tag/1925-paris-exposition/
Has this been posted yet?
Feels like a Niemeyer or a Lina Bo Bardi?... No time to research today
I was wrong with that hunch. Hints?
The architect might have visited the Soviet Pavilion since he was living in Paris at that time. This is his most known, unbuilt, work. Most of his career involved teaching in the US.
Is the architect american
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Yes, american, but living for a while in France.
Clue:
Great clue! Haha. It's Paul Nelson's Madison Suspendeu:
Not familiar with his work, really cool work.
Maison Suspendeu* ... freaking autocorrect...
I'm not familiar with this architect at all. What a fantastic project! Reminds me a lot of the Jorn Utzon Cobra Art Museum project earlier in the thread, with all those free-floating ramps. Dimaxion Bathrooms!!!
ok, more suspended stuff:
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This project was never built. But came to influence a whole generation of architects in the late 60's. Two of them became quite big with a project that directly referenced it.
Cedric Price's Fun Palace
Influencing Centre Pompidou, which is more visible if you study the original competition proposal, although I miss the traveling crane at the top.
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Love it
correct!
That last montage is very Pompidouesque. And even though it never got built, Price did get to use some of its ideas in the InterAction Centre at Kentish Town in 1976.
bump. a-f do you have one to post?
Yes, let's revive this thread!
Nice! It kind of reminded me of Aalto's Säynätsalo Town Hall, but I knew it was a different project, so was looking into Aalto hoping for clues. Turns out this campus is currently part of Aalto University! For recent photos and a walkthrough writeup: http://elec.aalto.fi/en/current/news/2017-11-08-003/
Correct, the Aalto University would have been part of my first clue of course, but in the end it wasn't necessary. This kind of research is what makes the thread worthwhile!
The entrance facade is beautiful. The excavated shapes look impressive in plan but are a bit underwhelming in reality.
some more drawings and photos: http://hacedordetrampas.blogspot.ca/2010/06/centro-dipoli-de-reima-y-raili-pietila.html
hint: trying to up the Can-Con in this thread :)
Non-Sequitur should probably know this one for sure :)
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I thought this might be a somewhat easy one, but perhaps the image clues are not enough (though they get me to the project in two clicks with google)... This much-decorated architect was one of the first to implement CAD for design and documentation, and this project pretty much kick-started his career...
Is it the Douglas J. Cardinal Performing Arts Centre by Douglas Cardinal?
You have the right architect! But the wrong building, although both are assembly spaces, and are in the same province. The amber stag is hinting at the right location.
St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church in Red Deer.
bingo! it's our own Little Ronchamp on the Praries :)
"Father Merx had a vision of a church that could carry the very
abstraction of the Spirit of the Church, past present and future. He
hired Architect Douglas Cardinal and together while listening to Bach’s organ music they designed a church around the new liturgy.
The church thus stands as a monument to spirituality. Based on the ideas of the first Christian gatherings before the cruciform basilica plan was created, Father Merx environed a design centered in the Eucharist, the symbol of Christ’s Living. An oculus to the altar and the tabernacle directs natural light as a symbol of divine light. The amorphous ceiling, a technical feat of the times, creates the acoustics to carry the Word of Christ without microphones. Even the confessional’s unique design using tempered glass to allow in the light of the altar inspires deep spiritual reconciliation."
http://www.djcarchitect.com/wo...
a few more wise words from Douglas Cardinal, best known for his design for the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Ottawa:
"I have always maintained that the endeavours of all Canadians should be directed towards a betterment of the human condition. Therefore in my role as planner and architect, and as the coordinator of technologists, I see a tremendous opportunity to petition the needs of the individual and to reinstate our humanness as the most important element in all of our efforts. I have found that by placing the needs of the human being before the systems that modern man has created, we can ensure that man is indeed served by these systems rather than becoming a slave to them."
The complexity of his serpentine architectural forms presents difficult geometrical problems; his church at Red Deer, for example, required 82,000 simultaneous equations to design the tent-like roof structure. To solve these and to accommodate the dynamic process of design, involving frequent changes in technical drawings and the repetitive procedures involved in producing updated sets of drawings, CAD was a natural answer. It gives accuracy, speed, and coordination, releasing staff from tedious manual drafting tasks to devote more time to design refinements. By itself, of course, it cannot guarantee a better building - that responsibility remains with the creative skill of the architect.
http://www.historymuseum.ca/cm...
and more from St. Mary's in Red Deer, completed in 1969he's 34 or 35 years old in this photo!
Wow, that's pretty impressive! Love those 'Beam me up Scotty' apertures :)
Interesting building and architect!
Yes, what an incredibly weird sci-fi architecture! Me gusta.
Next:
very Miesian, almost like an abbreviated Tugendhat house
It's not Mies, or a house; however, it is in Europe. It's also somewhat related to my first contribution in this thread.
A chapel of some sorts? Related to Lewerentz but no Asplund...
Yes, it is Bernt Nyberg's Klockarebacken chapel! I've seen that church hall before...
Choices of materials and details are sometimes very Lewerentz, the plan not so much.
I've been trying to find any book on Nyberg's work for a while but it's impossible.
There are two, an exhibition catalog, Endangered Architecture: The Work of Bernt Nyberg, and a+u's 2017 September issue featuring monographic coverage of Nyberg's work.
The a+u is sold out now; however, the editor of the catalog, Matt Hall, Assistant Professor of Architecture at Auburn, might be able to help you.
There's also a podcast episode, which is in Swedish and English:
http://summitunlimited.se/88-l...
Ah, I didn't know there was an a+u of his work. Thanks for the help!
Holy mortar joints, that's some hella fuzzy detailing! Def. seeing the Lewerentz reference in surface materiality, but maintin that the plan has a strong Miesian feel to it. Nice contrast to the brickwork in my post,
as well
http://hicarquitectura.com/201...
a-f, a+u has the Nyberg issue back in stock.
Off to a hotter climate:
Nailed it.
No guesses? This is the architect's own house.
Next:
A couple of hints: this project was completed within a decade of the Museum für Kunsthandwerk competition and was intended by the architects to compliment the architecture of one of the oldest European-established cities in the southeastern United States.
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clark menefee
To be specific - the Middleton I nn in Charleston
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is this the plan for the unbuilt Greek Orthodox Church by Herzog and DeMeuron?
No, this was built
Correct- it’s not Siza
How about Herz Jesu Kirche, Munich, Architect: Allmann Sattler Wappner, 2000
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Yep indeed.
that's a pretty cool double skin facade project. or is more like a triple skin facade?
this glass panel detail, designed by glass artist Alexander Beleschenko (which i grabbed from http://figure-ground.com/herz-...) is also really cool - apparently the images of nails are arranged to form an inscription (in cuneiform script) of Christ’s Passion from the St John’s Gospel
this is the Herzog&DeMeuron church I thought it was - I think these two projects are pretty close...
Hint, completed in 2000.
next:
Giovanni Michelucci, the Church of San Giovanni Battista, 1960-64
aka Church of the Motorway / Chiesa dell'Autostrada del Sole
a project of seemingly infinite complexity
yep
this moneyshot detail didn't post for some reason
this plan always made me think of combustion engines - perhaps appropriate for a church for wayfarers that also commemorates the workers who died building the highway that its immediately adjacent to...
nice read!
next:
hints: this architect is certainly less well known than some of his contemporaries like Mies van der Rohe, with whom he shared an office for a time, despite his role in establishing some pretty significant architectural organizations and his contributions to debates on and around the philosophy of modernist design
yes, probably the best cowshed in the world, here's the entire siteplan - but only the building I posted the plan for was ever built
err, scratch that, it's the plan I posted and the adjacent structure that got built - the completely rectangular shed has the lamella roof.
project photos source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/seier/2552160490/in/photostream/
some drawings I found by someone named Diego Lucio
I don't recall if it's in the Frampton book, and my copy is in storage at the moment, but it very well might be. We looked at this project in one of our tech classes in grad school. Häring was one of the co-founders of Der Ring (with Mies) and later CIAM. He was voted in as the secretary of Der Ring, but the group eventually disbanded in part beacause of the rise of the NSDAP and in part because a lot of the members had major disagreements with Häring, who advocated for 'organic functionalism' and a kind of a 'tight-fit' approach to planning over the preference for industrially-driven construction, held by the likes of Walter Gropius, and the kinds of 'universal' spaces that Mies produced. One architect who was very much aligned with Häring and his design approach was Hans Scharoun. The Gut Garkau farm buildings are considered to be Hugo Häring's main work, together with the Siemensstadt housing block built in a community master-planned by Scharoun.
The feedlot building plan is completely derived from the functional requirements of the program - organically emerging from the building's function, as it were - despite it's sculptural appearance.
HSBC Building?
Norman Foster?
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/87fb2381fc9a2f06631a5b7d7e03136/HSBC-Main-Building-Hong-Kong
I guess its my turn then?
A jump to something very different, and maybe a project not so known. Clues will come if it is too difficult.
I recon it is a tad difficult. Maybe a facade can help?
It is not brutalist. Finished in 1984.
Yes, but also a lot of eternit plates. The Architecture studio had a saying "it should look cheap, no matter the cost"...
Is it a trade school, or something like artist live/work studios? The plan actually has some formal affinities with a part of Dipoli and the Clark Menefee Charleston Inn...
It is a cooperative with shared workshops, dining hall
etc.
Is it Tinggården, by Vandkunsten?
Very close but no cigar!
Jystrup Sawmill by Vandkunsten:
http://vandkunsten.com/en/proj...
Ding Ding Ding - correct!
Next:
A hint:
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Made me think of Gaudi, or perhaps Gunther Domenig, but I'm fairly certain it's neither...
This architect was greatly influenced by a major cultural figure from the country in which he decided to practice. This cultural figure was a leader in the push for independence from this architect's home country.
It's too new to be Gaudi.
Yes, that is what I thought... As far as the facade 'scallops' which reminded me of Domenig's Z-Bank in Vienna, when I looked that one up I realised that their orientation in this plan is rotated 90° relative to those, and that these appear more 'regular'. Then I looked up 'British architect in India' based on your clue, and discovered the name of Laurie Baker!
Time-wise, the Z-Bank is close.
And a little more digging reveals this plan to be the Centre for Development Studies, located in Ulloor, Trivandrum, completed in 1971 by Lawrence Wilfred "Laurie" Baker. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Baker
Some really good photos of Baker's fantastic brickwork : http://www.chothompson.com/blog/onbricksandbaker
Looking forward to learning more about this man and his work for the rest of the weekend!
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posting from the phone, so unable to post images, but really encourage the curious onlooker to visit the links and see some of the photos!
And for some videos:
https://youtu.be/r6ni3aFraXE
this one should be pretty well known
Toyo Ito's Mediatheque in Sendai Japan?
Looked it up and ?=!
The model is in MoMA: https://www.moma.org/collectio...
If anyone has nice pictures or drawings, please reply, I'll post a new one to keep things going.
A building that attempts to answer the question "Where are you, when you are looking at the computer screen?"... there's a really good interview by Toyo Ito, including an in-depth description of this building, here: https://www.designboom.com/architecture/toyo-ito-designboom-interview/
It has also, as promised by the architect, survived a magnitude 9 seismic event. For a video from inside the building during the 2011 earthquake go here: https://www.archdaily.com/120114/video-experiencing-the-japan-earthquake-from-the-sendai-mediatheque - where you will also find some really great detail drawings of the structure.
Here's another classic:
BIG Lego House?
How did you...? I even desaturated it and called it 'a classic' and everything. Well congrats :) You're up.
Maybe because it is one the most branded projects of 2017 ;)
Another one then:
Could not find it in a better resolution so this will have to do.
it's a partially subterranean building on a beach, and it looks like it might be surrounded by some sort of ruins - so it's probably an intervention on a historic site or a renovation of some sort... care to give us some more concrete hints?
Good analysis. All your observations are true. The architect here is in a very special group together with Tadao Ando and SANAA.
The only place where I can think both Ando and Sanaa meet is in Naoshima, but can´t quite figure out what is it what you´re showing in that image. Is that circular plan at the edge of the picture a James Turrel?
You are definitely on the right track!
But no James Turrel
It´s the Inujima Seirensho Art Museum by Hiroshi Sambuichi. Man, that took a lot of googling...
You are very right! A very under-appreciated architect outside of Japan. Your turn!
I was wondering, did you get to know his work by living/traveling in Japan or otherwise? Because even knowing where to look I probably ended up finding it by chance.
My University had a collaboration with him, which is why I am aware of his works. I also visited. But the Fukutake Foundation Projects on Inujima, Teschima and Naojima are quite well known and he is very well recognised in Japan as one the greatest architects right now.
Cool. I wasn't familiar with his work, except perhaps the Naoshima Hall that's been more widely published
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here we go:
Bump
Almost looks like a library, but is probably dorms/apartments... The core is distinctly OMA-ish, but this is not an OMA project...
Give us some clues?
I think I know this, but I'll have to cheat to confirm. I believe it's fashion/museum related.
Sorry the delay, was away without signal for a few days. Anyway, it's not OMA, and is fashion related but not a museum. A cool hint is that its design and construction documents was a very straightforward adaptation of a cancelled project for an american
institution.
Perhaps some more hints are needed. The project is a headquarters of some sort, and is located in a country that's been in negociations to enter EU for some time now. The architects is an international office based in NY.
bingo
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what an intense project
the only image I could find is from your website:
From the plan seems before his full blown postmodernist shift.
Very interesting, gonna have to look for more info to see how the whole thing looked like.
Let's stick with the brits:
recently demolished, both greatly reviled and a testament of a bygone era where architecture was used to try to change the world.
Is it the Pimlico School, by John Bancroft?
Correct!
another cool building by the London County Council in the 60's. I just read Reiner de Graf's book "four walls and a roof" and has a really cool essay about the school and how the LCC worked internally. Worth the read.
Interestingly I see a lot of it in the works of Coop Himmelbleu or even Morphosis. Maybe is just me.
Next:
Thorncrown Chapel / E. Fay Jones?
Correct!
next: boxes again
Perez art museum, by Herzog and De Meuron.
yep
I'm on a blank, I would appreciate someone posting a plan for me.
Well, I could go again: maybe a little more difficult:
Indian Institute of Business Management, Balkrishna Doshi, 1971
it was kind of easy only because of the obvious peak in interest in this architect's work due to the Pritzker prize award.
also seems to have some shared affinities with Dipoli at the top of the page...
has anyone else noticed how very few articles featuring Doshi's work in the aftermath of the Pritzker include the plans?
not straying too far from the above plan
i know i've seen this before - not exactly the Jaipur city plan with its displaced corner....
but almost exactly like that! Jaipur is a hot clue
it was bugging me so i just cheated and looked it up. Oops.
Anyone?
More hints then: this architect's career shares a number of overlaps with B.V. Doshi's, although their paths are unique. While Doshi was working for Le Corbusier in the 50s, this architect was studying at MIT under the likes of Buckminster Fuller. They are both credited with achieving a uniquely Indian approach for modern design, were both the first Indian architect to receive a prestigious award, and were close friends - Doshi was this man's best man at his wedding...
This has been driving me crazy! There are so many possible ways to try to find it: the reference to stepwells, the use of the number nine, the serpent, etc. Anyway, it's the Jawahar Kala Kendra by Charles Correa.
That's it!
Some of the plans were mind blowing and honestly i can't even answer one of these plans :D
Sometimes you just gotta go with a hunch or follow the research trail laid out by hints. Hopefully this thread gets people to read and remember plans better. I got the Doshi school building in Bangalore because I was looking up plans to his buildings last week out of curiosity, and thought it was kind of funny that there was a pool or platform shaped like a winter sock or a boot in plan. I still haven't found a photo of what that space looks like, but the act f looking for it has helped me remember the drawing and building... Unless we get into the deep cuts and B-sides (which I love), I hope most people who paid any attention to arch history or theory should know at least one plan per page in this thread. Thanks again to Chris for starting this - it keeps me coming back to the forum, even when it seems that its dumpster fire season around here :)
I was going to stay in India; however, I can't find the plan I'm looking for, so...
We had this one on page 2 already ;) perhaps Apple Chris can post one...
Oops, missed that; yes, Apple Chris, please post one.
Bump!
I knew that one looked familiar.
Might be a little easy. The one I originally wanted to post was already used
I know this one, but i’m curious about how well known the work of this architect is outside of Latin America (hint, hint).
Vasconcelos Library / Alberto Kalach
Vasconcelos Library / Alberto Kalach
Yup
**bump**
it was shut down for nearly 2 year’s shortly after opening because of construction issues