Forgive me, I'm only a part 1 graduate but it's under my impression that London's architecture scene is lacking in imagination and variety.
Just looking at the kinds of practices out there, and comparing it to other places (US/Europe - although mainly US, I have to admit), I'm kind of struck by how much more... common-sense and down to Earth the UK architecture scene is currently.
Especially the practices here. Even the younger up-and-coming practices have twitter descriptions that frequently harps on about 'clients', 'listen', 'collaborate', 'planning'. Where are the Bureau Spectaculars, the Space Caviars, the... I don't know, someone give me another name. I am getting the feeling that here the discourse on architecture has taken a heavy right hand turn for the contextual, socially responsible, and almost Christopher-Alexander levels of yawn.
For a city that is often on the edge of culture it seems like architecture is on a leash. Of course, to each their own but it's just not something that I'm interested in. Unfortunately in my foreseeable prospects I am stuck on this small island with the rest of these lunatics. Can someone prove me wrong? Am I just not looking in the right places?
I'm really just sick of everyone harping on about their house extensions with an amazing glass skylight that miraculously got planning permissions.
Bench
Mar 17, 17 12:27 pm
Holy fuck. That's about all I can say.
archiwutm8
Mar 17, 17 1:15 pm
What are you looking for? The Gherkin is literally a giant phallus in the middle of London, its imaginative!
AKATO
Mar 17, 17 1:41 pm
Been looking for that giant floating clitoris in the sky.
accesskb
Mar 18, 17 4:47 am
maybe you need to travel and try living in other cities. I thought modern architecture in UK is hella interesting compared to US or more conservative countries with a million regulations and hurdles.
AKATO
Mar 18, 17 9:41 am
Good idea if money wasn't a problem, interns don't get paid them do they. Any UK architect will tell you about nightmares with planning - not sure how it is compared to the US though.
TED
Mar 18, 17 5:13 am
Perhaps it is you, @AKATO that are making it boring. :-)
AKATO
Mar 18, 17 9:58 am
My powers only go so far.
archinet
Mar 18, 17 5:52 am
Bureau spectacular- interesting as the work is predominantly only does academic type of works. That "office" does not survive financially off its work, it get its money from teaching. There is Sam Jacob http://www.samjacob.com/ he has managed to build buildings in his former office FAT architecture.
@Akato its very difficult to build buildings and earn a living in a studio such as FAT architecture- I am even surprised they managed to get the comissions they got. As for US architecture- overall it is much worse then the UK, simply because of the lower building standards and probably lower budgets. Its true there are more paper architects in the US but that is because it is more difficult for academic architects in the US to get any commissioned projects at all. As a result they tend to publish paper architecture type of work.
AKATO
Mar 18, 17 9:42 am
Thanks for being the first to give a good example - I agree. I also think there are plenty of people who are active in academia and also have built work (looking at some GSAPP/GSD lecturers - although a lot seems to be actively building in Europe...).
randomised
Mar 18, 17 8:58 am
There's boring shite everywhere if you don't know where to look.
AKATO
Mar 18, 17 9:46 am
Any pointers then?
randomised
Mar 18, 17 11:04 am
Nope, it's all up to you to discover, otherwise you will either not understand nor respect it.
borispmchan
Mar 18, 17 9:03 am
If you compare that to the Netherlands, yes things tend to be more practical and sensible in the UK. But if you find the big smoke boring, I'm pretty sure you'd rather work in Dubai
AKATO
Mar 18, 17 9:55 am
Netherlands is a good example. Who exactly is stirring up big smoke in the UK?
borispmchan
Mar 18, 17 10:09 am
The Londonscape's still exciting, all those "regeneration" projects going on, think someone mentioned the Gherkin above, the Shard, City Hall, the-what-seems-to-be-work-in-progress Lloyds, Tate Modern etc. She may not be in her heyday (IMO post-war brutalist council houses in London are the most peculiarly designed buildings ever), but it's still far from "boring".
Peter Normand
Mar 18, 17 11:10 am
I can't help but think your idea of boring might be someone's idea of subtle. Also not every architectural project needs to be the star attraction, sometimes there are more important things to focus on than the building.
Over and OUT
Peter N
sameolddoctor
Mar 18, 17 11:36 am
Architects are on a leash everywhere.
archietechie
Mar 18, 17 12:12 pm
You want interesting? Try China!
Soulless starchitecture/corporate architecture juxtaposed w/ under developed infrastructure everywhere!
Forgive me, I'm only a part 1 graduate but it's under my impression that London's architecture scene is lacking in imagination and variety.
Just looking at the kinds of practices out there, and comparing it to other places (US/Europe - although mainly US, I have to admit), I'm kind of struck by how much more... common-sense and down to Earth the UK architecture scene is currently.
Especially the practices here. Even the younger up-and-coming practices have twitter descriptions that frequently harps on about 'clients', 'listen', 'collaborate', 'planning'. Where are the Bureau Spectaculars, the Space Caviars, the... I don't know, someone give me another name. I am getting the feeling that here the discourse on architecture has taken a heavy right hand turn for the contextual, socially responsible, and almost Christopher-Alexander levels of yawn.
For a city that is often on the edge of culture it seems like architecture is on a leash. Of course, to each their own but it's just not something that I'm interested in. Unfortunately in my foreseeable prospects I am stuck on this small island with the rest of these lunatics. Can someone prove me wrong? Am I just not looking in the right places?
I'm really just sick of everyone harping on about their house extensions with an amazing glass skylight that miraculously got planning permissions.
Holy fuck. That's about all I can say.
What are you looking for? The Gherkin is literally a giant phallus in the middle of London, its imaginative!
Been looking for that giant floating clitoris in the sky.
maybe you need to travel and try living in other cities. I thought modern architecture in UK is hella interesting compared to US or more conservative countries with a million regulations and hurdles.
Good idea if money wasn't a problem, interns don't get paid them do they. Any UK architect will tell you about nightmares with planning - not sure how it is compared to the US though.
Perhaps it is you, @AKATO that are making it boring. :-)
My powers only go so far.
Bureau spectacular- interesting as the work is predominantly only does academic type of works. That "office" does not survive financially off its work, it get its money from teaching. There is Sam Jacob http://www.samjacob.com/ he has managed to build buildings in his former office FAT architecture.
@Akato its very difficult to build buildings and earn a living in a studio such as FAT architecture- I am even surprised they managed to get the comissions they got. As for US architecture- overall it is much worse then the UK, simply because of the lower building standards and probably lower budgets. Its true there are more paper architects in the US but that is because it is more difficult for academic architects in the US to get any commissioned projects at all. As a result they tend to publish paper architecture type of work.
Thanks for being the first to give a good example - I agree. I also think there are plenty of people who are active in academia and also have built work (looking at some GSAPP/GSD lecturers - although a lot seems to be actively building in Europe...).
There's boring shite everywhere if you don't know where to look.
Any pointers then?
Nope, it's all up to you to discover, otherwise you will either not understand nor respect it.
If you compare that to the Netherlands, yes things tend to be more practical and sensible in the UK. But if you find the big smoke boring, I'm pretty sure you'd rather work in Dubai
Netherlands is a good example. Who exactly is stirring up big smoke in the UK?
The Londonscape's still exciting, all those "regeneration" projects going on, think someone mentioned the Gherkin above, the Shard, City Hall, the-what-seems-to-be-work-in-progress Lloyds, Tate Modern etc. She may not be in her heyday (IMO post-war brutalist council houses in London are the most peculiarly designed buildings ever), but it's still far from "boring".
I can't help but think your idea of boring might be someone's idea of subtle. Also not every architectural project needs to be the star attraction, sometimes there are more important things to focus on than the building.
Over and OUT
Peter N
Architects are on a leash everywhere.
You want interesting? Try China!
Soulless starchitecture/corporate architecture juxtaposed w/ under developed infrastructure everywhere!