For some time now I've been intrigued by the contrast between this modernist masterpiece
and this brutalist construction.
Similar constructions with near opposite effects. Maybe the watered down design process of the latter prevented it from being as purely executed as the former, which would arguably have made a lovely cathedral?
chigurh
Dec 3, 15 5:52 pm
your out of context photo of nervi's church in SF does not do it justice at all.
brutalism is awesome so is modernism - interesting choice of photo for the TWA terminal as well - cause there were some hokey ass futurist finishes and details in that also.
archiwutm8
Dec 3, 15 6:00 pm
Have a look at the barbican center.
davvid
Dec 3, 15 6:01 pm
I think that the style of the time shifted from soaring fluid forms to angular and visually heavier forms.
Citizen, Its not about making "Brutalism feel bad". Its about making the Crate and Barrel shopping, craft beer drinking, Pinteresters who think that Brutalism is referring to brutality, feel more comfortable.
Miles Jaffe
Dec 3, 15 7:15 pm
Barbican doesn't relate to the soaring aspect of these forms.
I think the difference has to do with process. Saarinen individually designed the terminal, whereas St. Mary's was a collaborative effort among five architects. Or maybe they were doing a Magnificent Seven remake of Tange's cathedral in Toyko? Too many cooks ...
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Dec 3, 15 7:44 pm
Miles, not looking for a fight, trying to understand.
Isn't the TWA a gateway in a modern sense? If that is what you meant by Barbican.
Miles Jaffe
Dec 3, 15 8:13 pm
I was responding to archiwutm8, what makes you think I'm looking for a fight?
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Dec 3, 15 8:18 pm
my mistake, sorry.
midlander
Dec 3, 15 8:19 pm
Both great. More more more!
citizen
Dec 3, 15 8:20 pm
Point taken, davvid.
And I love the Barbican, though it's not comparable to the form's Miles posted.
Miles Jaffe
Dec 4, 15 9:37 am
After looking at the TWA terminal (commissioned 1955, completed 1962), one has to reconsider - if they haven't already - Shoemuncher's manifesto.
This is not where I was headed with this thread but it came up for me in Olaf's thread parametric details?
For some time now I've been intrigued by the contrast between this modernist masterpiece
and this brutalist construction.
Similar constructions with near opposite effects. Maybe the watered down design process of the latter prevented it from being as purely executed as the former, which would arguably have made a lovely cathedral?
your out of context photo of nervi's church in SF does not do it justice at all.
brutalism is awesome so is modernism - interesting choice of photo for the TWA terminal as well - cause there were some hokey ass futurist finishes and details in that also.
Have a look at the barbican center.
I think that the style of the time shifted from soaring fluid forms to angular and visually heavier forms.
Haven't you heard? We're not supposed to make brutalism feel bad anymore by using such a negative term.
Great photos above, btw.
A different expression of infinity, interesting.
Citizen, Its not about making "Brutalism feel bad". Its about making the Crate and Barrel shopping, craft beer drinking, Pinteresters who think that Brutalism is referring to brutality, feel more comfortable.
Barbican doesn't relate to the soaring aspect of these forms.
I think the difference has to do with process. Saarinen individually designed the terminal, whereas St. Mary's was a collaborative effort among five architects. Or maybe they were doing a Magnificent Seven remake of Tange's cathedral in Toyko? Too many cooks ...
Miles, not looking for a fight, trying to understand.
Isn't the TWA a gateway in a modern sense? If that is what you meant by Barbican.
I was responding to archiwutm8, what makes you think I'm looking for a fight?
my mistake, sorry.
Both great. More more more!
Point taken, davvid.
And I love the Barbican, though it's not comparable to the form's Miles posted.
After looking at the TWA terminal (commissioned 1955, completed 1962), one has to reconsider - if they haven't already - Shoemuncher's manifesto.
This is not where I was headed with this thread but it came up for me in Olaf's thread parametric details?