My little boy was watching toy story partysaurus cartoon and i noticed a very nice house there
Who can give me more information about what type of plan is it?what architectural style is it?
Oct 28, 15 5:28 pm
Okay, JBeaumont. I forgot who was it that referenced the setting. Okay... supplant JBeaumont's name with curtkram.
null pointer:
I do go outside but I don't always get photographed and occassionally when there is something along that line. You would probably see me outside from time to time.
You'd be surprised how much more often I do go outside than it may seem.
tduds
Oct 28, 15 7:14 pm
@Balkins
In the diversifying, I'm still trying to figure out how to negotiate the hurdles. I'm currently looking at a current need in the area.... affordable housing. It isn't the end game but possibly a step forward.
Development sounds interesting but it comes with its challenges to navigate.
It sounds from this like you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Want to do affordable housing? Go apply at a firm that specializes in it. Make connections, learn from them, eventually move up, maybe strike out on your own.
I live & work in Portland, by the way. I know Astoria well enough. Did some programming (architectural, not computer) work with your library renovation in grad school. I don't think anything ever came of it.
awaiting_deletion
Oct 28, 15 7:39 pm
balkins you need to be in the basement working on my app.....
Oct 28, 15 7:55 pm
tdud,
Ah... okay. I read something about that. I actually knew the architects of the library.
Are you still working on licensing? BTW: I know architectural programming from computer programming. I basically done both. Biggest thing is firms in Portland aren't exactly something private clients are going to hire to build ADUs for example. There are opportunities there. Affordable Housing is something I would collaborate with an architecture firm to do in affordable MFR development. Property owners aren't exactly going to pay large firm prices. I do have an affordable housing study recently performed.
My biggest concern with firm are their anti-moonlighting clauses and Non-competition clauses.
If you wish to discuss more about the topic, send me an email.
If the firm you are at are who I think they are, I wouldn't mind collaborating with them on stuff at least for a start.
sasko2236
Dec 24, 15 11:52 am
Hi guys im not a ghost and i have red most of this highly offtop discussion.
as i said before i fell in love with bungalow style from a first glance.
am still working on it. also plan to make it in revit .this house is nice but complicated as hell especially roof
JLC-1
Dec 24, 15 12:23 pm
you don't need to turn the roof rafters to overhang if you are using the timber beams, which also need to be beefier. where in Russia are you building this? just asking bc of snow shedding and insulation.
sasko2236
Dec 24, 15 2:47 pm
i was was thought about those purlins ,dont know for sure but think that they are decorative
I see all kinds of problems with your roof forms, plan arrangements, and proportions, not to mention materials and orientation for climate and view.
no_form
Jan 2, 16 12:15 pm
Building design aside. That site looks amazing.
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 2, 16 12:51 pm
Donna Sink, thanks for your notes. Roof frame is still under design, plenty of errors here(i am still thinking about rational framing - how to do rational).
but roof form(surface) is exactly as it is in the shelter studio original project. i spent much time to figure out this one.
any notes&remarks matter for me so feel free to criticize in any form
Non Sequitur
Jan 2, 16 3:07 pm
Where is the 4car garage?
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 2, 16 3:52 pm
it is supposed to be 2 car rear entry car garage. pretty wide think that 4 car will fit
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 2, 16 3:58 pm
especially for non Sequitur
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 2, 16 4:13 pm
now we got 4
David Cole, AIA
Jan 2, 16 4:58 pm
I guess people will climb out of their cars through the sunroof after they park?
Miles Jaffe
Jan 2, 16 6:02 pm
I may have seen a worse floor plan once.
Then again, maybe not.
kjdt
Jan 2, 16 7:09 pm
I'm confused as to what you're trying to accomplish. Where are you planning to build this house, if anywhere? For whom?
The house you copied is from a fairly high-end mixed-use development in which the majority of single-family homes are fairly open, generously-sized 1- and 2-bedroom cottages in the $350k to $475k range - but you seem to be trying to stuff a much denser traditional post-war ranch house program into your house - not really the same intent as the original into which you're trying to fit it.
archiwutm8
Jan 4, 16 4:46 am
its a toy story house, OP is bored and OP is not building it.
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 4, 16 6:06 am
archiwutm8 - true
kjdt, first thanks for ur reply.
i was modelling this house using Larry Hauns methods. wonder how else can i virtually build this one to be in high end wave. it is interesting. next one i'll use something not from post ww2 era.
i used
monolithic 6" strip reinforsed concrete foundation
lowered 7.25in wood frame floor (due original has no entrance stair)
standard 5.5 in studs and somewhere 3.5 in + 3/8 OSB sheathing
7.25 in joist over high spans 16in step. etc etc etc.
JeromeS
Jan 4, 16 8:50 am
7 1/2" Joists / 5 1/2" studs with 3 1/2" what? Insulation? - I guess the US is not alone in being unconcerned with energy costs and R values
You'll get what, 11'-0" span out of your floor joists? Not sure what sense that makes.
Non Sequitur
Jan 4, 16 8:50 am
This is so unbelievably bad design.
Miles Jaffe
Jan 4, 16 9:14 am
Maybe the guy needing help with roof pitches should build this.
shellarchitect
Jan 4, 16 11:01 am
I love the garage
JeromeS
Jan 4, 16 12:14 pm
I like the vestibule / hall / mudroom - none of which connect...
no_form
Jan 4, 16 12:32 pm
"Larry wrote the books on production framing." -fine home building
so the OP is learning how to frame his house from a production builder who wrote carpentry books for laypersons.
i can hear the following in a DIY forum. "hire a professional and get the bare minimum you need to do the rest yourself. their other services are just throwing money away that could be saved for your chicken coop and catfish pond."
shellarchitect
Jan 4, 16 12:37 pm
we watched a video by Larry on framing once - it as pretty incredible. Seemed like he used a 24" long hammer and drove ever nail with one blow.
shellarchitect
Jan 4, 16 12:38 pm
I'd start with getting the design right before worrying about the framing
Miles Jaffe
Jan 4, 16 12:57 pm
Nobody uses a hammer for framing any more, they just pepper the shit out of everything with air nailers. You can tell by the splintered studs with 20 toenails and the long lines of sheathing air nails.
The long handled hammer with a light head is the tool of choice for pros. The long handle provides the leverage that does the work. A short-handled heavy hammer - 20-24 oz. or more - is a just a bludgeon. It tries to make up for the lack of leverage with increased weight.
shellarchitect
Jan 4, 16 2:59 pm
Apparently Larry is a minor celebrity, lots of videos on YouTube.
Guess I wasn't the only one amazed by watching him work
Miles Jaffe
Jan 4, 16 6:03 pm
Can't say I like Larry's methods.
For example, to support window headers he uses a "trimmer" (short jack stud) sitting on a window sill plate and supported by a cripple below instead of a jack stud sitting on the shoe. This adds a layer of shrinkage which will allow the header to drop accordingly. Good framers equalize structural shrinkage. Inserting an additional unnecessary horizontal member in a bearing situation is bad practice.
Saw that while skimming the video and stopped there.
Volunteer
Jan 4, 16 6:53 pm
So, if you are in the bedroom in the upper left corner and want to go pee at night, you have got to go through the entry hallway, through the living room, through the dining room and down the hallway to get to the bathroom that is on the other side of your bedroom wall?
no_form
Jan 4, 16 7:12 pm
volunteer- such are the shortcomings of DIY warriors and amateur "building designers."
( o Y o )
Jan 4, 16 7:41 pm
I have a computer program. Now I'm an architect.
I have a hammer. Now I'm a contractor.
SneakyPete
Jan 4, 16 8:38 pm
I have a knife. Now I'm a surgeon.
shellarchitect
Jan 4, 16 8:53 pm
Who wouldn't want their master bed off the kitchen and another br of the front door?
Please don't take the jokes personally
SpontaneousCombustion
Jan 4, 16 10:34 pm
I don't understand the point of this exercise. You saw a house in an animated movie that you liked, searched for a real house sort of like it, copied the exterior form of that house but tried to stuff in twice the room count and added a 2 car garage... How to frame it seems like the least of the problems.
Sasha Bodnaruc
Jan 5, 16 2:21 am
So, if you are in the bedroom in the upper left corner and want to go pee at night, you have got to go through the entry hallway, through the living room, through the dining room and down the hallway to get to the bathroom that is on the other side of your bedroom wall?
Hi people !
My little boy was watching toy story partysaurus cartoon and i noticed a very nice house there
Who can give me more information about what type of plan is it?what architectural style is it?
Okay, JBeaumont. I forgot who was it that referenced the setting. Okay... supplant JBeaumont's name with curtkram.
null pointer:
I do go outside but I don't always get photographed and occassionally when there is something along that line. You would probably see me outside from time to time.
You'd be surprised how much more often I do go outside than it may seem.
@Balkins
In the diversifying, I'm still trying to figure out how to negotiate the hurdles. I'm currently looking at a current need in the area.... affordable housing. It isn't the end game but possibly a step forward.
Development sounds interesting but it comes with its challenges to navigate.
It sounds from this like you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Want to do affordable housing? Go apply at a firm that specializes in it. Make connections, learn from them, eventually move up, maybe strike out on your own.
I live & work in Portland, by the way. I know Astoria well enough. Did some programming (architectural, not computer) work with your library renovation in grad school. I don't think anything ever came of it.
balkins you need to be in the basement working on my app.....
tdud,
Ah... okay. I read something about that. I actually knew the architects of the library.
Are you still working on licensing? BTW: I know architectural programming from computer programming. I basically done both. Biggest thing is firms in Portland aren't exactly something private clients are going to hire to build ADUs for example. There are opportunities there. Affordable Housing is something I would collaborate with an architecture firm to do in affordable MFR development. Property owners aren't exactly going to pay large firm prices. I do have an affordable housing study recently performed.
My biggest concern with firm are their anti-moonlighting clauses and Non-competition clauses.
If you wish to discuss more about the topic, send me an email.
If the firm you are at are who I think they are, I wouldn't mind collaborating with them on stuff at least for a start.
Hi guys im not a ghost and i have red most of this highly offtop discussion.
as i said before i fell in love with bungalow style from a first glance.
after some research a picked bungalow for reproduce(make a copy for myself) just to know how expensive&complicated it is.just for fun. this one http://www.theshelterstudio.com/project/Craftsman_13
after few days spent in AutoCad i got this
https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/earthfrom/album/163319/
am still working on it. also plan to make it in revit .this house is nice but complicated as hell especially roof
you don't need to turn the roof rafters to overhang if you are using the timber beams, which also need to be beefier. where in Russia are you building this? just asking bc of snow shedding and insulation.
i was was thought about those purlins ,dont know for sure but think that they are decorative
rafters are 7.25 in rise 16 ft pitch 5:12
3d model is here dwg format https://yadi.sk/d/shGwDxS0mTwkT version for 24 dec
3d model on google drive https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5rbUw6yYlHYVy11S0Rtb1hZUWM/view?usp=sharing
good day architects! its me again
my final post here
after few mistakes has been eliminated got this
Which way is north and what are the climate extremes where it will be built?
Looks terrible.
All you need to be an architect is a free computer program.
thanks. terrible it is . i dont know where is north here.
used autocad and Larry Haun book.
it will not be build. its just a copy of original one from here http://www.theshelterstudio.com/project/Craftsman_13
I see all kinds of problems with your roof forms, plan arrangements, and proportions, not to mention materials and orientation for climate and view.
Building design aside. That site looks amazing.
Donna Sink, thanks for your notes. Roof frame is still under design, plenty of errors here(i am still thinking about rational framing - how to do rational).
but roof form(surface) is exactly as it is in the shelter studio original project. i spent much time to figure out this one.
3d model is here please take a look
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5rbUw6yYlHYeFEtckptX1BydzA/view?usp=sharing
any notes&remarks matter for me so feel free to criticize in any form
Where is the 4car garage?
it is supposed to be 2 car rear entry car garage. pretty wide think that 4 car will fit
especially for non Sequitur
now we got 4
I guess people will climb out of their cars through the sunroof after they park?
I may have seen a worse floor plan once.
Then again, maybe not.
I'm confused as to what you're trying to accomplish. Where are you planning to build this house, if anywhere? For whom?
The house you copied is from a fairly high-end mixed-use development in which the majority of single-family homes are fairly open, generously-sized 1- and 2-bedroom cottages in the $350k to $475k range - but you seem to be trying to stuff a much denser traditional post-war ranch house program into your house - not really the same intent as the original into which you're trying to fit it.
its a toy story house, OP is bored and OP is not building it.
archiwutm8 - true
kjdt, first thanks for ur reply.
i was modelling this house using Larry Hauns methods. wonder how else can i virtually build this one to be in high end wave. it is interesting. next one i'll use something not from post ww2 era.
i used
monolithic 6" strip reinforsed concrete foundation
lowered 7.25in wood frame floor (due original has no entrance stair)
standard 5.5 in studs and somewhere 3.5 in + 3/8 OSB sheathing
7.25 in joist over high spans 16in step. etc etc etc.
7 1/2" Joists / 5 1/2" studs with 3 1/2" what? Insulation? - I guess the US is not alone in being unconcerned with energy costs and R values
You'll get what, 11'-0" span out of your floor joists? Not sure what sense that makes.
This is so unbelievably bad design.
Maybe the guy needing help with roof pitches should build this.
I love the garage
I like the vestibule / hall / mudroom - none of which connect...
"Larry wrote the books on production framing." -fine home building
so the OP is learning how to frame his house from a production builder who wrote carpentry books for laypersons.
i can hear the following in a DIY forum. "hire a professional and get the bare minimum you need to do the rest yourself. their other services are just throwing money away that could be saved for your chicken coop and catfish pond."
we watched a video by Larry on framing once - it as pretty incredible. Seemed like he used a 24" long hammer and drove ever nail with one blow.
I'd start with getting the design right before worrying about the framing
Nobody uses a hammer for framing any more, they just pepper the shit out of everything with air nailers. You can tell by the splintered studs with 20 toenails and the long lines of sheathing air nails.
The long handled hammer with a light head is the tool of choice for pros. The long handle provides the leverage that does the work. A short-handled heavy hammer - 20-24 oz. or more - is a just a bludgeon. It tries to make up for the lack of leverage with increased weight.
Apparently Larry is a minor celebrity, lots of videos on YouTube. Guess I wasn't the only one amazed by watching him work
Can't say I like Larry's methods.
For example, to support window headers he uses a "trimmer" (short jack stud) sitting on a window sill plate and supported by a cripple below instead of a jack stud sitting on the shoe. This adds a layer of shrinkage which will allow the header to drop accordingly. Good framers equalize structural shrinkage. Inserting an additional unnecessary horizontal member in a bearing situation is bad practice.
Saw that while skimming the video and stopped there.
So, if you are in the bedroom in the upper left corner and want to go pee at night, you have got to go through the entry hallway, through the living room, through the dining room and down the hallway to get to the bathroom that is on the other side of your bedroom wall?
volunteer- such are the shortcomings of DIY warriors and amateur "building designers."
I have a computer program. Now I'm an architect.
I have a hammer. Now I'm a contractor.
I have a knife. Now I'm a surgeon.
Who wouldn't want their master bed off the kitchen and another br of the front door? Please don't take the jokes personally
I don't understand the point of this exercise. You saw a house in an animated movie that you liked, searched for a real house sort of like it, copied the exterior form of that house but tried to stuff in twice the room count and added a 2 car garage... How to frame it seems like the least of the problems.
So, if you are in the bedroom in the upper left corner and want to go pee at night, you have got to go through the entry hallway, through the living room, through the dining room and down the hallway to get to the bathroom that is on the other side of your bedroom wall?
funny, i did't noticed.