Where are all the Junior Level Jobs? Everyone is hiring Senior Level Architects. Why not just train younger architects quicker to do Upper Level tasks? There is an abundance of talented young architects who complain about not getting enough responsibility. Between full service offices trapping young architects in menial work and young designers going to design offices that don't do technical work, the future of the profession looks questionable. It seems that in ten years, there will be a dramatic drop in the number of professionals who are actually capable of getting something built. What do you think?
Good_Knight
Aug 11, 15 11:30 am
Problems are good. I hope for many problems. The more the better.
curtkram
Aug 11, 15 11:38 am
perhaps in 10 years it will require fewer professionals to be capable of getting something built
Good_Knight
Aug 11, 15 12:04 pm
Fewer, smaller brains, continuing increase on reliance of ego muscle. Schools continuing in the path of producing a sea of mind slaves/ indentured servants (due to the stark truth of student debt + not sharing useful information or giving the opportunity to master professionally valuable skills).
The brains that remain will enlarge their capacity to manage the many impulsive, insecure egos.
no_form
Aug 11, 15 12:07 pm
Dtelmore, are you enrolled in IDP?
chigurh
Aug 11, 15 12:21 pm
The recession and BIM made it entirely possible to do way more work with less people, anybody that remained employed throughout is now highly valuable to the profession. To the OP, sounds like your complaint is that of an entitled millennial. Set some long term goals for yourself, work hard, do your time in the trenches and your time will come, architecture is an old mans profession, even though you think you can PM a multi-million dollar project, you can't.
no_form
Aug 11, 15 12:28 pm
Dtelmore, do your IDP, learn revit, laugh about how old men can't even use sketchup. Don't sign a non compete clause and woo a client with a multi million dollar project. The greatest generation has to retire someday.
shellarchitect
Aug 11, 15 12:33 pm
My experience has been that unlike many other professions, architecture can only really be learned though experience. The work is so varied and involves so many moving parts that school can't possibly teach much of anything.
3tk
Aug 11, 15 1:04 pm
A lot of firms don't post junior jobs: easier and cheaper to find someone word of mouth. If someone internally brings someone in, they're more likely to help them get properly trained in. As with any line of work, you can move more quickly up the food chain if you hop around (every 3 yrs or whenever you feel like you've learned all you can in a position), but be careful of biting off too much - nothing worse than getting fired for being incompetent, it'll really set you back.
x-jla
Aug 11, 15 3:23 pm
the only way to have professional mobility is to be self employed. If you work for someone else you will never get ahead in life. I would rather have my own shoe shining business than work for any top firm. Personal freedom is wealth.
DeTwan
Aug 11, 15 4:16 pm
You're gonna have to architecture yourself out of architecture. Now you really got to use the skills you learned in school. GO...
Aug 12, 15 12:51 am
jla-x,
Where are you at on your license status? Completed IDP? ARE?
JeromeS
Aug 12, 15 7:17 am
and, personal freedom means no indebtedness
curruchet_house
Aug 14, 15 12:21 pm
Work for somebody else until you are confident and have gathered enough tools and experience. Take your ARE and be free.
Where are all the Junior Level Jobs? Everyone is hiring Senior Level Architects. Why not just train younger architects quicker to do Upper Level tasks? There is an abundance of talented young architects who complain about not getting enough responsibility. Between full service offices trapping young architects in menial work and young designers going to design offices that don't do technical work, the future of the profession looks questionable. It seems that in ten years, there will be a dramatic drop in the number of professionals who are actually capable of getting something built. What do you think?
Problems are good. I hope for many problems. The more the better.
perhaps in 10 years it will require fewer professionals to be capable of getting something built
Fewer, smaller brains, continuing increase on reliance of ego muscle. Schools continuing in the path of producing a sea of mind slaves/ indentured servants (due to the stark truth of student debt + not sharing useful information or giving the opportunity to master professionally valuable skills).
The brains that remain will enlarge their capacity to manage the many impulsive, insecure egos.
Dtelmore, are you enrolled in IDP?
The recession and BIM made it entirely possible to do way more work with less people, anybody that remained employed throughout is now highly valuable to the profession. To the OP, sounds like your complaint is that of an entitled millennial. Set some long term goals for yourself, work hard, do your time in the trenches and your time will come, architecture is an old mans profession, even though you think you can PM a multi-million dollar project, you can't.
Dtelmore, do your IDP, learn revit, laugh about how old men can't even use sketchup. Don't sign a non compete clause and woo a client with a multi million dollar project. The greatest generation has to retire someday.
My experience has been that unlike many other professions, architecture can only really be learned though experience. The work is so varied and involves so many moving parts that school can't possibly teach much of anything.
A lot of firms don't post junior jobs: easier and cheaper to find someone word of mouth. If someone internally brings someone in, they're more likely to help them get properly trained in. As with any line of work, you can move more quickly up the food chain if you hop around (every 3 yrs or whenever you feel like you've learned all you can in a position), but be careful of biting off too much - nothing worse than getting fired for being incompetent, it'll really set you back.
the only way to have professional mobility is to be self employed. If you work for someone else you will never get ahead in life. I would rather have my own shoe shining business than work for any top firm. Personal freedom is wealth.
You're gonna have to architecture yourself out of architecture. Now you really got to use the skills you learned in school. GO...
jla-x,
Where are you at on your license status? Completed IDP? ARE?
and, personal freedom means no indebtedness
Work for somebody else until you are confident and have gathered enough tools and experience. Take your ARE and be free.