OK, so we all know about the "architect shortage". But it only seems to apply to project architects and only in select markets. So, does anybody have information on which markets are really desperate for architects? ALL levels of archiects. I ask for myself, of course, but also for anybody who is willing to relocate.
Rang
Jun 17, 15 5:05 pm
I got a call from a head hunter yesterday about project architect with 7-10 years experience in institutional / educational / hospital work. Midwest.
BackAgain
Sep 7, 15 7:42 pm
Every time I check the job boards on here, LA and NYC dominate as locations that are hiring. Are these markets really that busy? Does anyone else see a lack of intern-level talent?
Bobby Lin
Sep 7, 15 8:27 pm
Architects are in demand here in Australia, especially the Architects who have state of the art knowledge in the latest trends and technologies. I would say the firms where Architects are in demand are of course, Architectural Firms, Engineering Firms, Construction and Real Estate.
poop876
Sep 8, 15 1:06 pm
Few years back I would have an employment add out and would get bombarded with resumes and now I've had the same add for a week and not a single resume. We are struggling with getting help here in the Midwest!
Driko
Sep 8, 15 4:06 pm
Well I've been applying everywhere here in Chicago and I haven't hear back from any architecture firm. I also saw a few firms advertise their salary which was extremely low for the work they were asking
shellarchitect
Sep 8, 15 4:22 pm
lots of work in Detroit area
geezertect
Sep 8, 15 4:42 pm
I also saw a few firms advertise their salary which was extremely low for the work they were asking
Great profession for people who don't need to eat.
StarchitectAlpha
Sep 8, 15 5:33 pm
So there's a shortage in the Midwest? Theres no amount of money that would get me out there.
null pointer
Sep 8, 15 6:04 pm
The sort of stuff I am being asked to bid on is... big.
Existing firms have grown so fast that certain portions of the market are pretty much unserviced.
BackAgain
Sep 8, 15 7:39 pm
Driko, I feel your pain. I don't want to leave the Chicago, but the market for architects is pathetic. Very few openings. This means I'm going to have to move somewhere else, so I would appreciate suggestions for active job markets.
Driko
Sep 8, 15 7:44 pm
I actually just got a job. Dropped out of my M.arch about 3 weeks ago.after I dropped out I applied for two weeks. Got interviews the third week + offers. Took a job at a civil engineering company in Chicago. The pay is just as much as people would expect with a masters degree in architecture.
archanonymous
Sep 11, 15 2:28 am
Chicago is a pretty bad market.
poop876
Sep 11, 15 8:48 am
Chicago is bad? I moved from Chicago years back as it really sucked back then...never looked back!
Josh Mings
Sep 13, 15 3:14 pm
I wouldn't say Chicago is a bad market. There are signs that it is slowing down a bit - Gensler just laid off 20 or so people for example. But it still seems like demand is there for licensed architects and PA/PM level people. I keep getting poaching emails anyway.
Steven Ward
Sep 13, 15 3:52 pm
Somewhat anecdotal, but my firm in Louisville has been looking for experienced folks for a while and we're not the only ones. I hear the same from just about every other office here.
Already this year, we've hired three interns < 3yrs out. While we'll still talk to anyone, we could use someone who's been around a while...
I hear Indianapolis is having similar issues. Happy to give out some firm names both here and there if anyone wants to drop a note.
What's wrong with the midwest? Having lived in Virginia, Louisiana, and Minnesota before Louisville, I love this place.
Peter Normand
Sep 14, 15 6:32 pm
Chicago has several schools of architecture feeding the system, and it is home to mega firms that sometimes are not able to hold onto people when projects wrap up and others are not ready to staff up for CD production.
Culturally Chicago is very attractive to young emerging professionals I don't know what people think of the smaller cities as places to live if what you seek is a diverse urban community medium cities can offer that but not as much as often as our biggest cities can. Young folks may be size Queens in regards to where they choose to live.
On the subject of where to look for job prospects I would look at university towns, also Kansas City is home to the worlds leading stadium firms some of them huge operations, they will be doing well for a while.
Carrera
Sep 14, 15 8:59 pm
Just because we’re talking Chicago and I know them, Smith Group JJR has openings at all levels in their Chicago office, terrific building at 35 E. Wacker…you can gaze out the window at the Trump sign all day.
Used to be you could follow the growth, but today everyone’s practice is so far reaching that it’s hard to read, think that there are good opportunities in not so obvious places and I don’t think anybody is "desperate".
bowling_ball
Sep 14, 15 9:03 pm
We just hired somebody and are still looking for 2 to 3 more to fill seats. Stupid busy here in the middle of Canuckistan.
archanonymous
Sep 15, 15 10:34 am
I should clarify - Chicago is fine as a job market. If you want to do innovative or exciting design, design research, or be involved in any contemporary architectural movements, it is abysmal.
David Cole, AIA
Sep 15, 15 10:39 am
Out of curiosity, how is Philadelphia looking these days? I used to live there years ago, but I wasn't really plugged into the local architectural scene at the time. I know there's been a lot of development in the city since I left, and the job market in general is in a much different place.
OK, so we all know about the "architect shortage". But it only seems to apply to project architects and only in select markets. So, does anybody have information on which markets are really desperate for architects? ALL levels of archiects. I ask for myself, of course, but also for anybody who is willing to relocate.
I got a call from a head hunter yesterday about project architect with 7-10 years experience in institutional / educational / hospital work. Midwest.
Every time I check the job boards on here, LA and NYC dominate as locations that are hiring. Are these markets really that busy? Does anyone else see a lack of intern-level talent?
Architects are in demand here in Australia, especially the Architects who have state of the art knowledge in the latest trends and technologies. I would say the firms where Architects are in demand are of course, Architectural Firms, Engineering Firms, Construction and Real Estate.
Few years back I would have an employment add out and would get bombarded with resumes and now I've had the same add for a week and not a single resume. We are struggling with getting help here in the Midwest!
Well I've been applying everywhere here in Chicago and I haven't hear back from any architecture firm. I also saw a few firms advertise their salary which was extremely low for the work they were asking
lots of work in Detroit area
I also saw a few firms advertise their salary which was extremely low for the work they were asking
Great profession for people who don't need to eat.
So there's a shortage in the Midwest? Theres no amount of money that would get me out there.
The sort of stuff I am being asked to bid on is... big.
Existing firms have grown so fast that certain portions of the market are pretty much unserviced.
Driko, I feel your pain. I don't want to leave the Chicago, but the market for architects is pathetic. Very few openings. This means I'm going to have to move somewhere else, so I would appreciate suggestions for active job markets.
I actually just got a job. Dropped out of my M.arch about 3 weeks ago.after I dropped out I applied for two weeks. Got interviews the third week + offers. Took a job at a civil engineering company in Chicago. The pay is just as much as people would expect with a masters degree in architecture.
Chicago is a pretty bad market.
Chicago is bad? I moved from Chicago years back as it really sucked back then...never looked back!
I wouldn't say Chicago is a bad market. There are signs that it is slowing down a bit - Gensler just laid off 20 or so people for example. But it still seems like demand is there for licensed architects and PA/PM level people. I keep getting poaching emails anyway.
Somewhat anecdotal, but my firm in Louisville has been looking for experienced folks for a while and we're not the only ones. I hear the same from just about every other office here.
Already this year, we've hired three interns < 3yrs out. While we'll still talk to anyone, we could use someone who's been around a while...
I hear Indianapolis is having similar issues. Happy to give out some firm names both here and there if anyone wants to drop a note.
What's wrong with the midwest? Having lived in Virginia, Louisiana, and Minnesota before Louisville, I love this place.
Chicago has several schools of architecture feeding the system, and it is home to mega firms that sometimes are not able to hold onto people when projects wrap up and others are not ready to staff up for CD production.
Culturally Chicago is very attractive to young emerging professionals I don't know what people think of the smaller cities as places to live if what you seek is a diverse urban community medium cities can offer that but not as much as often as our biggest cities can. Young folks may be size Queens in regards to where they choose to live.
On the subject of where to look for job prospects I would look at university towns, also Kansas City is home to the worlds leading stadium firms some of them huge operations, they will be doing well for a while.
Just because we’re talking Chicago and I know them, Smith Group JJR has openings at all levels in their Chicago office, terrific building at 35 E. Wacker…you can gaze out the window at the Trump sign all day.
Used to be you could follow the growth, but today everyone’s practice is so far reaching that it’s hard to read, think that there are good opportunities in not so obvious places and I don’t think anybody is "desperate".
We just hired somebody and are still looking for 2 to 3 more to fill seats. Stupid busy here in the middle of Canuckistan.
I should clarify - Chicago is fine as a job market. If you want to do innovative or exciting design, design research, or be involved in any contemporary architectural movements, it is abysmal.
Out of curiosity, how is Philadelphia looking these days? I used to live there years ago, but I wasn't really plugged into the local architectural scene at the time. I know there's been a lot of development in the city since I left, and the job market in general is in a much different place.
archanonymous, what about Jeanne Gang?