is it a detail section cut line? it is always coupled with a dimension and is placed on an elevation where all the connections (or areas to be detailed) are, but there is no detail reference or symbol. There are about 8 of them and the diagonal lines point different directions depending on where the symbol is.
I just can't remember...
feel free to chuckle...but please help...
thanks!
KEG
May 1, 07 2:16 pm
don't know why the image shifted...
dml955i
May 1, 07 2:19 pm
It looks similar to a symbol I've seen on floorplans that indicates a change in floor elevation...
4arch
May 1, 07 2:29 pm
shag carpet on a wall
KEG
May 1, 07 2:36 pm
guess i'm not the only one that doesn't know...
the level change could make sense but the dimensions don't...arrg
work for idle hands
May 1, 07 2:41 pm
yeah i'd also guess change in plane along the elevation and the dimension is the depth of change. but if that is it it isn't drawn very well.
work for idle hands
May 1, 07 2:42 pm
..can you show it in context?
KEG
May 1, 07 2:54 pm
thanks for helping "work..."
el jeffe
May 1, 07 3:02 pm
yup - it done be a plane break.
but it seems to be drawn incorrectly.
that 2'-2" with the hatch is reading as though the storefront is proud of the soffit by 2'-2" - which seems really doubtful.
the diagonal hatching should be on the other side of the heavy line to indicate the positive side.
same with the 2'-0" callout above.
personally, i hatch the entire symbol along the positive side to make it easier to read.
Living in Gin
May 1, 07 3:11 pm
There's a detail mark (D) above the doors... What does that detail show?
If it were my project, I'd leave off the plane break indicators altogether, use heavier lineweights on the elevation to indicate major plane breaks, and then reference separate details.
That assumes this is a working drawing... For a presentation drawing, I'd cast some shadows to indicate different planes of the elevation.
JMBarquero/squirrelly
May 1, 07 3:20 pm
Im with LiG on that....this seems to me (my opinion) an old skool way of showing the ref. plane and where they lie. Not really all that valuable on an elevation dwg. Better to reference it to a detail with a call out and then a well drawn detail.
cadalyst
May 1, 07 3:24 pm
We used that symbol previosly (when we were in the residential market) on floor plans to indicate change of plane with steps (interior and exterior). The diagonal hatch seems to be on the correct side, the drawing is showing a 2'2 recess from the facade to the storefront glazing.
The (D) does not look like a detail marker in my opinion, it looks more like a column line (sans column line lineweight)
KEG
May 1, 07 3:41 pm
the 'd' is a detail symbol that reflects the header section (showing the 2'-2" and 2'-0" plane break), but, if it is a plane break symbol, then why is the "z" symbol on the storefront (the one indicating 1'-7" and marked "remain new") when that part of the glazing lines up (isn't on different planes). The "eyebrow" is the only thing that steps out or back- the glazing is all on the same plane in plan.
Thanks for all your help guys, I really appreciate your time!
Living in Gin
May 1, 07 3:44 pm
Can't help you there... Sounds like a badly-coordinated / badly-drafted set of drawings. I feel sorry for the poor suckers who have to make sense of it all.
KEG
May 1, 07 3:55 pm
I'm the poor sucker...trying to do shop drawings from elevations and plans that don't match up. just talked to the archinot....he said..."oh yeah, i forgot to change the plan- good catch"
yeah...good catch. thanks.
thanks again for all your help guys...you were right.
and remember....be kind to your contactors (do good drawings) cause one of "you" is on the other end, desperately trying to make sense of your scribbles.
I can't wait to go back to school and get out of the working world ;)
won and done williams
May 1, 07 3:59 pm
yeah, because things make so much more sense in academics;)
mdler
May 1, 07 4:00 pm
it is a symbol used to show a change in elevation of floor slab - one step usually
KEG
May 1, 07 4:03 pm
jafidler ....but at least it’s ok to confused in school- that's the best part...
I think I'm supposed to know what I'm doing now (shhhh...don't tell 'em)
KEG
May 1, 07 4:42 pm
*to be confused*
Mylarkid
May 1, 07 4:45 pm
that's not a fucking symbol it's a hairy ass line.
KEG
May 1, 07 4:47 pm
um ok.
vado retro
May 1, 07 4:58 pm
i would suggest calling the person that drew it and ask them for clarification.
KEG
May 1, 07 5:04 pm
yeah, I did...but he took his time to get back to me...shocker...
yet, with the delay, he still want the shop dwgs
..."immediately"...primarchitect.
Living in Gin
May 1, 07 5:05 pm
And ask them how their school was ranked by Design Intelligence.
KEG
May 1, 07 5:11 pm
hahaha
good point LiG!!!!
holz.box
May 1, 07 10:33 pm
shag carpet on a wall...
woulda been funnier, but we actually had a client want to do that
David Cuthbert
May 1, 07 10:58 pm
holz I actually just saw so metro-version shag carpetting made from old jeans very metro, everyone just had to touch the wall when they came up the landing
aspect
May 2, 07 12:10 am
only use for ground level differences, the diagonal hatch is a ground symbol.
not common to do it on elevations or for plane break.
sedrik
May 4, 07 2:47 am
I have only ever seen these on concrete profiles ...
lgnall
May 8, 19 10:36 pm
found this link thought it was helpful. shows your symbol as a wall surface.
I have never seen it used like that on elevations.
What DIY interior designer gave you those?
N.TW
May 10, 19 2:19 am
We work with a lot of consultants and I have only ever seen a symbol like this on foundation plans. So to me, these days it means a step up or down. This symbol does not go on elevations. The drafting team was supposed to clarify all of this without relying on elevations alone. Good luck
is it a detail section cut line? it is always coupled with a dimension and is placed on an elevation where all the connections (or areas to be detailed) are, but there is no detail reference or symbol. There are about 8 of them and the diagonal lines point different directions depending on where the symbol is.
I just can't remember...
feel free to chuckle...but please help...
thanks!
don't know why the image shifted...
It looks similar to a symbol I've seen on floorplans that indicates a change in floor elevation...
shag carpet on a wall
guess i'm not the only one that doesn't know...
the level change could make sense but the dimensions don't...arrg
yeah i'd also guess change in plane along the elevation and the dimension is the depth of change. but if that is it it isn't drawn very well.
..can you show it in context?
thanks for helping "work..."
yup - it done be a plane break.
but it seems to be drawn incorrectly.
that 2'-2" with the hatch is reading as though the storefront is proud of the soffit by 2'-2" - which seems really doubtful.
the diagonal hatching should be on the other side of the heavy line to indicate the positive side.
same with the 2'-0" callout above.
personally, i hatch the entire symbol along the positive side to make it easier to read.
There's a detail mark (D) above the doors... What does that detail show?
If it were my project, I'd leave off the plane break indicators altogether, use heavier lineweights on the elevation to indicate major plane breaks, and then reference separate details.
That assumes this is a working drawing... For a presentation drawing, I'd cast some shadows to indicate different planes of the elevation.
Im with LiG on that....this seems to me (my opinion) an old skool way of showing the ref. plane and where they lie. Not really all that valuable on an elevation dwg. Better to reference it to a detail with a call out and then a well drawn detail.
We used that symbol previosly (when we were in the residential market) on floor plans to indicate change of plane with steps (interior and exterior). The diagonal hatch seems to be on the correct side, the drawing is showing a 2'2 recess from the facade to the storefront glazing.
The (D) does not look like a detail marker in my opinion, it looks more like a column line (sans column line lineweight)
the 'd' is a detail symbol that reflects the header section (showing the 2'-2" and 2'-0" plane break), but, if it is a plane break symbol, then why is the "z" symbol on the storefront (the one indicating 1'-7" and marked "remain new") when that part of the glazing lines up (isn't on different planes). The "eyebrow" is the only thing that steps out or back- the glazing is all on the same plane in plan.
Thanks for all your help guys, I really appreciate your time!
Can't help you there... Sounds like a badly-coordinated / badly-drafted set of drawings. I feel sorry for the poor suckers who have to make sense of it all.
I'm the poor sucker...trying to do shop drawings from elevations and plans that don't match up. just talked to the archinot....he said..."oh yeah, i forgot to change the plan- good catch"
yeah...good catch. thanks.
thanks again for all your help guys...you were right.
and remember....be kind to your contactors (do good drawings) cause one of "you" is on the other end, desperately trying to make sense of your scribbles.
I can't wait to go back to school and get out of the working world ;)
yeah, because things make so much more sense in academics;)
it is a symbol used to show a change in elevation of floor slab - one step usually
jafidler ....but at least it’s ok to confused in school- that's the best part...
I think I'm supposed to know what I'm doing now (shhhh...don't tell 'em)
*to be confused*
that's not a fucking symbol it's a hairy ass line.
um ok.
i would suggest calling the person that drew it and ask them for clarification.
yeah, I did...but he took his time to get back to me...shocker...
yet, with the delay, he still want the shop dwgs
..."immediately"...primarchitect.
And ask them how their school was ranked by Design Intelligence.
hahaha
good point LiG!!!!
shag carpet on a wall...
woulda been funnier, but we actually had a client want to do that
holz I actually just saw so metro-version shag carpetting made from old jeans very metro, everyone just had to touch the wall when they came up the landing
only use for ground level differences, the diagonal hatch is a ground symbol.
not common to do it on elevations or for plane break.
I have only ever seen these on concrete profiles ...
found this link thought it was helpful. shows your symbol as a wall surface.
https://www.slideshare.net/gopaltry/plan-symbols
I have never seen it used like that on elevations.
What DIY interior designer gave you those?
We work with a lot of consultants and I have only ever seen a symbol like this on foundation plans. So to me, these days it means a step up or down. This symbol does not go on elevations. The drafting team was supposed to clarify all of this without relying on elevations alone. Good luck