My guess is that BIG got a low retainer and thus assigned the work to junior staff.
will galloway
Mar 7, 24 4:13 pm
BIG gets such unearned hate, it is somehow still baffling to me. Populous does very good work, FWIW. There is, luckily, enough room in the world for more than one good architecture office that makes this kind of building, and I would include BIG among them.
Mostly because of their intent to make the display, the vanity, and the goofy fun of sports into a cultural thing that is elevated to a community event. It's almost Venturian the way his office has picked up and run with all the activities connected to these places. It's also very human and joyful. Can't help but love architecture that aims and meets these goals. This project seems to be doing it quite well. The interior looks fun as hell, and its iconic from the outside. What else could we ask for?
t a z
Mar 8, 24 4:04 pm
I'm sure they are working from a brief, but the scale of the ballpark at 33,000 seats bucks the current trend of smaller more intimate fan friendly parks.
There are a lot of baseball games in a season and even Yankee and Dodger Stadiums (40,000+ IIRC) have trouble filling seats.
Also, that's a lot of glass. Even if it's on the shady side it's depicted as a cable net wall which can likely only be single glazing. At that point may as well have an open air properly shaded stadium with hopefully some natural ventilation.
will galloway
Mar 10, 24 11:11 am
From what I understand the bugs you point out are the feature. Glass is north facing and acts as a simple enclosure more than part of a full on interior space that is climate controlled and sealed up tight like a house in minnesota. Benches are cooled not the space, etc. It is a big tent, conceptually. Makes sense to me. About the number of seats, I guess you could write to the owners and ask them what they are thinking? In spite of the tall ceilings the renders at least give the impression of an intimate space. Given the scale of the project and its slightly crazy location it seems like a pretty intelligent and reasoned design...
Bench
Mar 11, 24 8:24 am
"the scale of the ballpark at 33,000 seats bucks the current trend of smaller more intimate fan friendly parks"
Sorry taz, but this is definitely in line with recent baseball projects. I dont think any trend has been bucked by those numbers.
Volunteer
Mar 11, 24 9:20 am
I believe baseball revenue is mostly dependent on tv, cable, and streaming. The stadium was likely built with rock concerts and other events in mind as well. This one looks a lot better than the Mercedes-Benz crypt they built in Atlanta. That one has a 71,000 seat capacity.
Yeah, they're moving to LV but did they need to take BIG with them?
Yikes!
P.S. Sorry Archinect, can't wait for the News post on this one.
BIG designs "spherical armadillo" ballpark for Athletics in Las Vegas (dezeen.com)
oh good lord BIG.dk is definitely funny but enough is enough
it's like 2 or 3 of these stacked together
https://www.gmp.de/en/projects/459/china-maritime-museum
interesting though and potentially elegant which is uncommon in stadiums
I drove by the site last week. It's weird how similar it is to the now-iconic Sphere and how close they are to each other.
It's better than anything USA "specialist" stadium architecture firms would have done here.
Not really, those specialist firms have done some really good stuff lately
i like it -- i hope it turns out as visioned
Looks like they borrowed heavily from the Sydney Opera House.
Several buildings or structures define the city where they are located. This one defines a continent.
This was a fascinating podcast about its design: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/cautionary-tales-of-the-sydney-opera-house/
My guess is that BIG got a low retainer and thus assigned the work to junior staff.
BIG gets such unearned hate, it is somehow still baffling to me. Populous does very good work, FWIW. There is, luckily, enough room in the world for more than one good architecture office that makes this kind of building, and I would include BIG among them.
Mostly because of their intent to make the display, the vanity, and the goofy fun of sports into a cultural thing that is elevated to a community event. It's almost Venturian the way his office has picked up and run with all the activities connected to these places. It's also very human and joyful. Can't help but love architecture that aims and meets these goals. This project seems to be doing it quite well. The interior looks fun as hell, and its iconic from the outside. What else could we ask for?
I'm sure they are working from a brief, but the scale of the ballpark at 33,000 seats bucks the current trend of smaller more intimate fan friendly parks.
There are a lot of baseball games in a season and even Yankee and Dodger Stadiums (40,000+ IIRC) have trouble filling seats.
Also, that's a lot of glass. Even if it's on the shady side it's depicted as a cable net wall which can likely only be single glazing. At that point may as well have an open air properly shaded stadium with hopefully some natural ventilation.
From what I understand the bugs you point out are the feature. Glass is north facing and acts as a simple enclosure more than part of a full on interior space that is climate controlled and sealed up tight like a house in minnesota. Benches are cooled not the space, etc. It is a big tent, conceptually. Makes sense to me. About the number of seats, I guess you could write to the owners and ask them what they are thinking? In spite of the tall ceilings the renders at least give the impression of an intimate space. Given the scale of the project and its slightly crazy location it seems like a pretty intelligent and reasoned design...
"the scale of the ballpark at 33,000 seats bucks the current trend of smaller more intimate fan friendly parks"
Sorry taz, but this is definitely in line with recent baseball projects. I dont think any trend has been bucked by those numbers.
I believe baseball revenue is mostly dependent on tv, cable, and streaming. The stadium was likely built with rock concerts and other events in mind as well. This one looks a lot better than the Mercedes-Benz crypt they built in Atlanta. That one has a 71,000 seat capacity.