Not just being snarky, but it seems like this prize has lost much of its luster with architecture reevaluating the hero system
monosierra
Mar 5, 21 9:00 am
They kind of tried to go for the best-intention approach with Wang Shu, who had great ideas but uneven execution. Aravena too - his architecture alone has little claim to the prize but he had good intentions, free interns aside.
natematt
Mar 6, 21 3:11 am
That's 2 out of the last 9? There are some real great picks in there too... Frei Otto? That was out of left field, but I'm not mad at all.
your conscience
Mar 4, 21 10:47 pm
BIG deserves it. they've pretty much solved architecture.
tduds
Mar 5, 21 2:41 pm
Sarcasm?
randomised
Mar 5, 21 4:35 am
David Adjaye
hellion
Mar 5, 21 8:20 am
As how the Gen Z's put it, "he is the moment."
hellion
Mar 5, 21 8:30 am
David Adjaye
Diller, Scofidio + Renfro (or just Elizabeth Diller?)
Kengo Kuma
Vo Trong Nghia
Daniel Libeskind (I feel though he's passed his prime but we'll never know! Age & experience has no limits.)
tduds
Mar 5, 21 2:42 pm
Adjaye would be a good pick, imo.
monosierra
Mar 5, 21 8:58 am
Lacaton + Vassal ... but they might go for a surprise veteran who isn't covered as much by the mainstream press.
randomised
Mar 5, 21 9:27 am
Those bastards delivering their awesome affordable social housing projects on time and under budget, no way the architecture community would stand for such heresy!
sameolddoctor
Mar 5, 21 11:51 pm
Lactation what? Sorry i had to have my high-school moment
ovalle
Mar 16, 21 10:14 am
Good guess, they won.
natematt
Mar 16, 21 12:43 pm
And we have a winner. Well done.
archanonymous
Mar 5, 21 9:29 am
Adjaye.
sameolddoctor
Mar 5, 21 12:19 pm
Donald Trump
x-jla
Mar 5, 21 12:54 pm
Adjaye or Holl.
tduds
Mar 5, 21 2:45 pm
I honestly thought Holl had already won it. He seems like an ideal candidate for a 95-2002 prize. Guess not.
archanonymous
Mar 5, 21 3:10 pm
Yeah but I think he missed his shot. The projects are nice but not THAT nice.
tduds
Mar 5, 21 3:26 pm
I also think the priorities of the committee have shifted since Holl did his best work, and they're not looking to reward the type of work he did (whereas ~20 years ago they were rewarding exactly that type of work)
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x-jla
Mar 5, 21 8:27 pm
Who was the youngest winner?
monosierra
Mar 5, 21 8:40 pm
Ryue Nishizawa was the youngest I think
Koww
Mar 5, 21 7:39 pm
they'll need to virtue signal the shit out this prize so i bet it's not going to be a white man. it would be good to award to some intellectual who hasn't built anything and doesn't have any intention to.
SneakyPete
Mar 5, 21 7:42 pm
Virtue Signaling = we have no values but want to pretend we do
Value Signaling = we are making this decision in alignment with our moral and ethical beliefs
Koww
Mar 5, 21 7:43 pm
thanks, i didn't know there were formal definitions for these things
SneakyPete
Mar 5, 21 8:17 pm
There aren't, but I'm trying.
archanonymous
Mar 6, 21 1:54 pm
Go away troll (Koww)
Koww
Mar 6, 21 2:06 pm
i am a cow, not a troll. actually i was a cow. but then i was something else the moderators didn't like and they changed my name back. i guess they wanted me around
mai
Mar 5, 21 8:27 pm
David Adjule
the world needs a black architect Pritzker Prize winner, especially when we all strive for a more diverse and inclusive society. His prize will lift up the pride of all black people and will help them believe in the power they can change the world for the better.
monosierra
Mar 5, 21 8:40 pm
But does his work warrant the prize? What about an African architect?
tduds
Mar 5, 21 8:48 pm
The NMAAHC alone warrants it, imo.
monosierra
Mar 5, 21 9:36 pm
That building has its big moment but its rather mundane interior space and clunky cladding are minuses for me.
natematt
Mar 6, 21 2:56 am
monosierra... he is an African Architect...
natematt
Mar 6, 21 3:00 am
"mundane interior space"
natematt
Mar 6, 21 3:01 am
I would actually agree that I think his work is well deserving. He has a nice body of high quality work.
However... It's ironic to say that the NMAAHC "alone" warrants it... considering the design team was a 4 architect bond, which no one seems to know, and none of the 4 architects ever mention when they present it hahahahaha. Which could also release him of some of the criticism for the interiors though too. My last comment notwithstanding.
archanonymous
Mar 6, 21 1:55 pm
Adjaye has a shitload of built work spanning over 20+ years, and different project typologies, locations, and expressions. He never repeats himself and is an amazing architect.
That anyone would he think he deserved or would receive this award solely because he is black just indicates they are a prejudiced fool.
curtkram
Mar 7, 21 10:30 am
if david adyaye beats me, i'd be ok with that
rodrigovelasco
Mar 6, 21 4:06 pm
Alberto Kalach
bigbono
Mar 6, 21 5:45 pm
The Pritzker Prize in Architecture has become completely irrelevant. It will make no differnce whatsoever to anything that is vaguely important in our world. The only thing it will do is increase the fame and fortune of its recepient. It's another useless ego trip award - a MEANINGLESS award in today's world.
natematt
Mar 6, 21 7:11 pm
What awards have a particularly great meaning? Isn't the general intent to congratulate someone after the fact of having done something of perceived value?
tduds
Mar 7, 21 11:25 am
I'm curious when you think this started? At what point in the past was the Pritzker relevant to "anything that is vaguely important in our world"?
archbold927
Mar 7, 21 9:37 am
I have my bets on Jeanne Gang!
j2gon
Mar 7, 21 10:37 am
Feliz dia, tengan, soy de opinion que el premio, "premia" la influencia e incidencia de la obra de un colega, y al ver la lista, me pregunto, porque no lo ha recibido, MOSHE SAFDI???, creo que es un digno merecedor y sin desmiritarar en lo absoluto al cuerpo de nominados, Saludos y RESPETOS a todos
Miles Jaffe
Mar 13, 21 9:52 pm
Safdie has been spurned by the Architecture Establishment since Habitat. He should have gotten the first Pritzker instead of Johnson.
Non Sequitur
Mar 13, 21 9:55 pm
Miles, his moustache alone deserves one.
midlander
Mar 14, 21 12:34 am
his best client just died so that would be a nice good break for him...
Chemex
Mar 9, 21 1:50 pm
Just thinking there's never been a Mid-American architect like Blackwell awarded. Seems they have been staying away from Americans and Canadians in general. Arevana will probably go for some political developer making $45000 tents.
I missed this year's festivities trying to keep up with work, but... wow. Can we all confess there's now way we would have guessed L&V? I mean, props to @monosierra for the call - not even a hedge with 3 other choices.
I think we can also safely say so long as Arevana is chair, Holl and DS+R can forget it. Same with anyone of that genre/approach/focus.
randomised
Mar 17, 21 5:17 am
Holl and DS+R's work of the last decade or so is totally irrelevant...
Miles Jaffe
Mar 16, 21 8:13 pm
Good choice, but the Pritzker committee must have missed apukov's portfolio.
It's March, folks, and you know what that means: who do you think will win the Pritzker Architecture Prize this year?
this is my year!
Him. "The vigilante Carpenter."
https://archinect.com/news/art...
Dr. Fauci.
I predict it won't matter.
Not just being snarky, but it seems like this prize has lost much of its luster with architecture reevaluating the hero system
They kind of tried to go for the best-intention approach with Wang Shu, who had great ideas but uneven execution. Aravena too - his architecture alone has little claim to the prize but he had good intentions, free interns aside.
That's 2 out of the last 9? There are some real great picks in there too... Frei Otto? That was out of left field, but I'm not mad at all.
BIG deserves it. they've pretty much solved architecture.
Sarcasm?
David Adjaye
As how the Gen Z's put it, "he is the moment."
David Adjaye
Diller, Scofidio + Renfro (or just Elizabeth Diller?)
Kengo Kuma
Vo Trong Nghia
Daniel Libeskind (I feel though he's passed his prime but we'll never know! Age & experience has no limits.)
Adjaye would be a good pick, imo.
Lacaton + Vassal ... but they might go for a surprise veteran who isn't covered as much by the mainstream press.
Those bastards delivering their awesome affordable social housing projects on time and under budget, no way the architecture community would stand for such heresy!
Lactation what? Sorry i had to have my high-school moment
Good guess, they won.
And we have a winner. Well done.
Adjaye.
Donald Trump
Adjaye or Holl.
I honestly thought Holl had already won it. He seems like an ideal candidate for a 95-2002 prize. Guess not.
Yeah but I think he missed his shot. The projects are nice but not THAT nice.
I also think the priorities of the committee have shifted since Holl did his best work, and they're not looking to reward the type of work he did (whereas ~20 years ago they were rewarding exactly that type of work) .
Who was the youngest winner?
Ryue Nishizawa was the youngest I think
they'll need to virtue signal the shit out this prize so i bet it's not going to be a white man. it would be good to award to some intellectual who hasn't built anything and doesn't have any intention to.
Virtue Signaling = we have no values but want to pretend we do
Value Signaling = we are making this decision in alignment with our moral and ethical beliefs
thanks, i didn't know there were formal definitions for these things
There aren't, but I'm trying.
Go away troll (Koww)
i am a cow, not a troll. actually i was a cow. but then i was something else the moderators didn't like and they changed my name back. i guess they wanted me around
David Adjule
the world needs a black architect Pritzker Prize winner, especially when we all strive for a more diverse and inclusive society. His prize will lift up the pride of all black people and will help them believe in the power they can change the world for the better.
But does his work warrant the prize? What about an African architect?
The NMAAHC alone warrants it, imo.
That building has its big moment but its rather mundane interior space and clunky cladding are minuses for me.
monosierra... he is an African Architect...
"mundane interior space"
I would actually agree that I think his work is well deserving. He has a nice body of high quality work.
However... It's ironic to say that the NMAAHC "alone" warrants it... considering the design team was a 4 architect bond, which no one seems to know, and none of the 4 architects ever mention when they present it hahahahaha. Which could also release him of some of the criticism for the interiors though too. My last comment notwithstanding.
Adjaye has a shitload of built work spanning over 20+ years, and different project typologies, locations, and expressions. He never repeats himself and is an amazing architect.
That anyone would he think he deserved or would receive this award solely because he is black just indicates they are a prejudiced fool.
if david adyaye beats me, i'd be ok with that
Alberto Kalach
The Pritzker Prize in Architecture has become completely irrelevant. It will make no differnce whatsoever to anything that is vaguely important in our world. The only thing it will do is increase the fame and fortune of its recepient. It's another useless ego trip award - a MEANINGLESS award in today's world.
What awards have a particularly great meaning? Isn't the general intent to congratulate someone after the fact of having done something of perceived value?
I'm curious when you think this started? At what point in the past was the Pritzker relevant to "anything that is vaguely important in our world"?
I have my bets on Jeanne Gang!
Feliz dia, tengan, soy de opinion que el premio, "premia" la influencia e incidencia de la obra de un colega, y al ver la lista, me pregunto, porque no lo ha recibido, MOSHE SAFDI???, creo que es un digno merecedor y sin desmiritarar en lo absoluto al cuerpo de nominados, Saludos y RESPETOS a todos
Safdie has been spurned by the Architecture Establishment since Habitat. He should have gotten the first Pritzker instead of Johnson.
Miles, his moustache alone deserves one.
his best client just died so that would be a nice good break for him...
Just thinking there's never been a Mid-American architect like Blackwell awarded. Seems they have been staying away from Americans and Canadians in general. Arevana will probably go for some political developer making $45000 tents.
about as exciting as the royal drama.
I'm thinking Francis Kéré
Aaand the winner is: Anne Lacaton and Jean-Philippe Vassal of Lacaton & Vassal
I missed this year's festivities trying to keep up with work, but... wow. Can we all confess there's now way we would have guessed L&V? I mean, props to @monosierra for the call - not even a hedge with 3 other choices.
I think we can also safely say so long as Arevana is chair, Holl and DS+R can forget it. Same with anyone of that genre/approach/focus.
Holl and DS+R's work of the last decade or so is totally irrelevant...
Good choice, but the Pritzker committee must have missed apukov's portfolio.
I missed it too unfortunately :-(