Hello, I'm working out the architectural services contract(s) (B105) for an upcoming project in the LA area and am looking for some advise.
The scope includes two adjacent properties owned by the same person.
One of them will involve remodeling the existing single-family residence (SFR).
The other lot is vacant and will be developed with a new SFR
My question: Given that the overall project entails work on separate adjoining lots owned by the same owner, each with its own unique scope, should I provide individual contracts for each or one contract for ALL work (same client)?
I'm thinking I should separate them into individual contracts, but wonder if others might think otherwise.
Thanks.
SneakyPete
Jan 20, 21 8:18 pm
Keep them separate. If one project moves ahead and the other does not, or if one project needs add services and the other does not, or if you want different consultants on each, etc. then you'll be good to go.
apscoradiales
Jan 20, 21 8:42 pm
Separate in case Murphy's Law strikes.
Non Sequitur
Jan 20, 21 9:02 pm
Ditto on separating the two. We often have clients with several projects side by side that run concurrently and they are always treated as separate contracts and fees.
Rusty!
Jan 20, 21 9:13 pm
Ask owner if they plan on having separate construction agreements with contractor(s) or a single one. Match that.
It will be a pain in the ass if your double contract corresponds to single contractor agreement or vice versa.
SneakyPete
Jan 20, 21 9:14 pm
Instead of asking, strongly suggest they match you.
Rusty!
Jan 20, 21 9:31 pm
That's a good power move for anyone not asking Archinect for basic contract advice.
SneakyPete
Jan 20, 21 9:35 pm
Damnit. Guess that's why I'm an employee and not an employer. :)
Rusty!
Jan 20, 21 9:53 pm
To be perfectly fair, seasoned architects struggle interpreting their own contracts they negotiated drafting. OP's question is fair for a novice. Work with your client on this. Keep it simple.
masarc
Jan 21, 21 12:17 pm
Thank you.
thisisnotmyname
Jan 21, 21 5:20 pm
One contract seems ok if they are going to construct it all at once with a single contractor. The different lots may be an issue to think about. You probably will have to secure two individual building permits if it's separate lots, so you should make sure you are compensated for that extra work.
Hello, I'm working out the architectural services contract(s) (B105) for an upcoming project in the LA area and am looking for some advise.
The scope includes two adjacent properties owned by the same person.
One of them will involve remodeling the existing single-family residence (SFR).
The other lot is vacant and will be developed with a new SFR
My question: Given that the overall project entails work on separate adjoining lots owned by the same owner, each with its own unique scope, should I provide individual contracts for each or one contract for ALL work (same client)?
I'm thinking I should separate them into individual contracts, but wonder if others might think otherwise.
Thanks.
Keep them separate. If one project moves ahead and the other does not, or if one project needs add services and the other does not, or if you want different consultants on each, etc. then you'll be good to go.
Separate in case Murphy's Law strikes.
Ditto on separating the two. We often have clients with several projects side by side that run concurrently and they are always treated as separate contracts and fees.
Ask owner if they plan on having separate construction agreements with contractor(s) or a single one. Match that.
It will be a pain in the ass if your double contract corresponds to single contractor agreement or vice versa.
Instead of asking, strongly suggest they match you.
That's a good power move for anyone not asking Archinect for basic contract advice.
Damnit. Guess that's why I'm an employee and not an employer. :)
To be perfectly fair, seasoned architects struggle interpreting their own contracts they negotiated drafting. OP's question is fair for a novice. Work with your client on this. Keep it simple.
Thank you.
One contract seems ok if they are going to construct it all at once with a single contractor. The different lots may be an issue to think about. You probably will have to secure two individual building permits if it's separate lots, so you should make sure you are compensated for that extra work.