Does anyone know if any firms that either specialize in Baroque architecture design or would have the aesthetic mindset for it?
I need someone to design I private residence for me. Thank you.
chris-chitect
Aug 11, 20 12:26 am
Christopher Wren comes to mind.
randomised
Aug 11, 20 1:55 am
Not sure but you could try Francesco Castelli, did some interesting stuff back in the day, not sure if they’re still in business though, haven’t heard from them in a while and with this COVID-19, who knows...Good luck!
citizen
Aug 11, 20 2:12 am
The official Baroque beverage. Look for it in the office kitchen.
randomised
Aug 11, 20 9:07 am
“Why do they call it Ovaltine?”
Donna Sink
Aug 11, 20 4:03 pm
Google "Mark Foster Gage" and see if that fits your definition of Baroque.
Also, my favorite dad joke whenever Baroque architecture comes up: "Why don't they fix it?"
Jay1122
Aug 11, 20 5:16 pm
I actually went to check it out out of curiosity. Seems like a lot of conceptual stuff with nice renderings, not much actual built projects. Only built projects are the typical boring residential. Their statement of how they are picky of their client made me laugh. Good luck finding those ambitious clients willing to spent the money on those modern day complex ornaments.
How about future systems? Their Tribeca townhome is pretty out there.
JLC-1
Aug 11, 20 5:56 pm
wow. it' sexy.
archanonymous
Aug 11, 20 6:59 pm
if anyone needs a refresher...
senjohnblutarsky
Aug 12, 20 8:17 am
I can't get masons to building straight/plumb walls either. Methinks it's for different reasons.
The_Crow
Aug 12, 20 4:48 pm
This project was designed by "System Architects" not the far more interesting "Future Systems"
randomised
Aug 12, 20 5:26 pm
Looks like a bunch of Edvard Munch screamers with face masks...
archanonymous
Aug 12, 20 5:35 pm
ah thanks for the correction. Systems, Future Systems, System of a Down, easy to confuse them all
archanonymous
Aug 11, 20 7:04 pm
Also:
Ronald Rael and Emerging Objects
Matsys Design
(previously mentioned) Mark Foster Gage
(previously hated on) Mark Fornes and TVM
Jeanne Gang?
Selgascano?
Could actually spur an interesting discussion - who are the current successors to the Baroque style?
Seems like digital ornament is an obvious place to look, but there's also plan geometry to consider...
liberty bell
Aug 11, 20 10:20 pm
Not fuckin’ Fornes. I’d put Bureau de Change on the list. But not fuckin’ Fornes.
archanonymous
Aug 12, 20 9:32 am
really interested in what your vendetta against Fornes is based on (as opposed to picking at random any of the dozens of other exploitative practices getting tons of publicity). Would it happen to have anything to do with your husband's business and a fabrication agreement gone wrong?
liberty bell
Aug 12, 20 9:43 am
I’ve heard stories about Fornes both online and from specific people. Also, even though incredibly unfair and prohibitive NDAs that give one side all the power are a thing that exist, my spouse’s company has done tons excellent work for many smart, talented, happy people.
Donna Sink
Aug 12, 20 9:45 am
archanonymous, if you know of "dozens of other exploitative practices getting tons of publicity" you should name names. If firms are *still* out there not paying interns and abusing staff both economically and emotionally we - the entire discipline - should root them out and stop them.
archanonymous
Aug 12, 20 9:52 am
Donna - wasn't suggesting that your spouse's firm was anything other than ultra cool! I just happen to know a few different fab shops that have had less than stellar experiences with them.
archanonymous
Aug 12, 20 9:56 am
But again, I don't see that as a reason not to mention them when talking about contemporary design practices. Are we going to "cancel culture" ZHA, DS+R, Herzog + DeMeuron, 1/2 the firms in LA, John Ronan, Snohetta, Trahan, or any of the other firms that "abuse staff both economically and emotionally?" Probably a discussion for another thread...
Donna Sink
Aug 12, 20 9:58 am
Definitely a discussion for another thread, but it's not about "canceling" them, it's about using public opinion and legal ethics to make them start paying staff, at least.
monosierra
Aug 12, 20 10:11 am
A healthy chunk of these firms would go out of business if they had to obey the laws of economy like every other professional service provider. There is virtually no reason for some of them to even exist other than creating "art" for the sake of it. Subsidized by the pockets of international student interns and other under-paid/unpaid workers - and partly by schools who wilfully supply 'em with student interns too and provide the only market for the services (i.e. speculative "research") offered by these practices.
randomised
Aug 12, 20 11:39 am
Fornes pays his staff, why would he otherwise have an archinect job as?
Does your client want Baroque or Belle Epoque? Belle Epoque was often used in the south of France on the Mediterranean coast and Monaco (and still is). Baroque was much earlier and normally was used in civic and church buildings.
Does anyone know if any firms that either specialize in Baroque architecture design or would have the aesthetic mindset for it?
I need someone to design I private residence for me. Thank you.
Christopher Wren comes to mind.
Not sure but you could try Francesco Castelli, did some interesting stuff back in the day, not sure if they’re still in business though, haven’t heard from them in a while and with this COVID-19, who knows...Good luck!
The official Baroque beverage. Look for it in the office kitchen.
“Why do they call it Ovaltine?”
Google "Mark Foster Gage" and see if that fits your definition of Baroque.
Also, my favorite dad joke whenever Baroque architecture comes up: "Why don't they fix it?"
I actually went to check it out out of curiosity. Seems like a lot of conceptual stuff with nice renderings, not much actual built projects. Only built projects are the typical boring residential. Their statement of how they are picky of their client made me laugh. Good luck finding those ambitious clients willing to spent the money on those modern day complex ornaments.
a little help for your inspiration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Baroque_residences
How about future systems? Their Tribeca townhome is pretty out there.
wow. it' sexy.
if anyone needs a refresher...
I can't get masons to building straight/plumb walls either. Methinks it's for different reasons.
This project was designed by "System Architects" not the far more interesting "Future Systems"
Looks like a bunch of Edvard Munch screamers with face masks...
ah thanks for the correction. Systems, Future Systems, System of a Down, easy to confuse them all
Also:
Ronald Rael and Emerging Objects
Matsys Design
(previously mentioned) Mark Foster Gage
(previously hated on) Mark Fornes and TVM
Jeanne Gang?
Selgascano?
Could actually spur an interesting discussion - who are the current successors to the Baroque style?
Seems like digital ornament is an obvious place to look, but there's also plan geometry to consider...
Not fuckin’ Fornes. I’d put Bureau de Change on the list. But not fuckin’ Fornes.
really interested in what your vendetta against Fornes is based on (as opposed to picking at random any of the dozens of other exploitative practices getting tons of publicity). Would it happen to have anything to do with your husband's business and a fabrication agreement gone wrong?
I’ve heard stories about Fornes both online and from specific people. Also, even though incredibly unfair and prohibitive NDAs that give one side all the power are a thing that exist, my spouse’s company has done tons excellent work for many smart, talented, happy people.
archanonymous, if you know of "dozens of other exploitative practices getting tons of publicity" you should name names. If firms are *still* out there not paying interns and abusing staff both economically and emotionally we - the entire discipline - should root them out and stop them.
Donna - wasn't suggesting that your spouse's firm was anything other than ultra cool! I just happen to know a few different fab shops that have had less than stellar experiences with them.
But again, I don't see that as a reason not to mention them when talking about contemporary design practices. Are we going to "cancel culture" ZHA, DS+R, Herzog + DeMeuron, 1/2 the firms in LA, John Ronan, Snohetta, Trahan, or any of the other firms that "abuse staff both economically and emotionally?" Probably a discussion for another thread...
Definitely a discussion for another thread, but it's not about "canceling" them, it's about using public opinion and legal ethics to make them start paying staff, at least.
A healthy chunk of these firms would go out of business if they had to obey the laws of economy like every other professional service provider. There is virtually no reason for some of them to even exist other than creating "art" for the sake of it. Subsidized by the pockets of international student interns and other under-paid/unpaid workers - and partly by schools who wilfully supply 'em with student interns too and provide the only market for the services (i.e. speculative "research") offered by these practices.
Fornes pays his staff, why would he otherwise have an archinect job as?
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Forget Baroque. Who's doing Rococo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az_2oiccZNo
Does your client want Baroque or Belle Epoque? Belle Epoque was often used in the south of France on the Mediterranean coast and Monaco (and still is). Baroque was much earlier and normally was used in civic and church buildings.
Belle Epoque below.