I just started my first semester of grad school. Long story short, i dont think I can get in a B in one of the courses which would result in failure of the program. Anyone else failed out of arch grad school. pretty mad at myself now especially since I turned down several really great other programs that didnt require me to take this specific course. Is it possible to just go somewhere and get a 5th year degree instead after the fact?
Non Sequitur
Dec 5, 19 3:32 pm
....ummmm, can't you take this up with the school? Should there not be enough time left to catch up or at least discuss a redo on an failed assignment? Also, how do you get into grad school and not be able to carrying a minimum B average?
SpontaneousCombustion
Dec 5, 19 3:38 pm
Getting a failing grade in one course in your first semester, even if it's a studio, won't typically cause you to "fail the program". The more likely results are one or more of: a warning letter; academic probation; having to take that course over again in a later semester; or some sort of make-up plan. If it's a core studio and you did horribly, and it's not something that can be taken in the spring or out of sequence, then it's possible you could be asked to withdraw for the spring semester and return in the fall to take it again then. In any case you'd likely get a chance to talk with your academic advisors about it and try to negotiate some solution.
It's pretty rare to completely fail out of grad school - it usually wouldn't happen unless you have multiple failing grades, or continued unsuccessful semesters. If the semester is not over yet you should try to talk to the professor of the course NOW and see what, if anything they recommend to give you a better chance of eeking out a passing grade.
It's not usually possible to jump directly into a 5th year of an undergrad B.Arch program anywhere. Depending on the school and your past studies you would often be put back in sophomore or junior level studios, so it could take 2-4 years to finish that way. It wouldn't be the route I'd recommend. I think you should talk to your current program's people and try to get help charting a way forward.
Also, out of curiosity, what M.Arch program are you attending where anything less than a B makes you fail the whole program? Almost all the M.Arch programs I know consider a C a "low pass", and you'd only hit even probation level if your cumulative GPA was less than B - not just one course.
45ty
Dec 5, 19 5:12 pm
Its unclear right now since there is still a final exam but advisors, professors, program director are all aware. It is actually a structures course..so unrelated to design studios...its been a while but I took two years of structures in undergrad which were always fine..If it were a matter of that was the only thing left i had to do and could just study for a while then there would be hope.. but the exam is literally right before studio final so it really puts a limit on how much studying is possible..i might share the later but i think its best not to right now. The rule is anything under a B is not considered passing.
Non Sequitur
Dec 5, 19 5:15 pm
So you're giving up on one course because of studio? Tough luck, but everyone else also has to deal with that. Just be efficient with your time and dedicate a few hours per day to the failing course. You don't need to put in 80+ hour weeks for studio if you know how to work smart.
45ty
Dec 5, 19 6:11 pm
Nowhere did I say i was giving up because of studio....nope not a single place. I said it was a matter of how much time I can study in between working on my groups studio project due the next day. Not everyone in studio is in the class.
Non Sequitur
Dec 5, 19 6:21 pm
It certainly appears that way but regardless, there is plenty of time to set up a balanced schedule to avoid a failing grade.
kjdt
Dec 5, 19 6:26 pm
I do think the OP should do whatever possible to pass, but "plenty of time" may or may not be the case. Next week is the end of the semester for some universities (even this week for some, though it'd be a fait accompli in that case I guess.) is there a week left? 2? A few days?
kjdt
Dec 5, 19 6:06 pm
I failed a required course in grad school. The world didn't end. I just had to take it again the following fall. I had to also wait on the 2 more advanced courses for which it was a prerequisite, so it changed around my schedule a bit from most of my classmates' but I did graduate on time. I did get a letter about being on probation for a semester, but it didn't affect financial aid or anything and I even still won competitive awards. If you fail you won't be the first who ever did, and I'm sure you won't be expelled over it!
I just started my first semester of grad school. Long story short, i dont think I can get in a B in one of the courses which would result in failure of the program. Anyone else failed out of arch grad school. pretty mad at myself now especially since I turned down several really great other programs that didnt require me to take this specific course. Is it possible to just go somewhere and get a 5th year degree instead after the fact?
....ummmm, can't you take this up with the school? Should there not be enough time left to catch up or at least discuss a redo on an failed assignment? Also, how do you get into grad school and not be able to carrying a minimum B average?
Getting a failing grade in one course in your first semester, even if it's a studio, won't typically cause you to "fail the program". The more likely results are one or more of: a warning letter; academic probation; having to take that course over again in a later semester; or some sort of make-up plan. If it's a core studio and you did horribly, and it's not something that can be taken in the spring or out of sequence, then it's possible you could be asked to withdraw for the spring semester and return in the fall to take it again then. In any case you'd likely get a chance to talk with your academic advisors about it and try to negotiate some solution.
It's pretty rare to completely fail out of grad school - it usually wouldn't happen unless you have multiple failing grades, or continued unsuccessful semesters. If the semester is not over yet you should try to talk to the professor of the course NOW and see what, if anything they recommend to give you a better chance of eeking out a passing grade.
It's not usually possible to jump directly into a 5th year of an undergrad B.Arch program anywhere. Depending on the school and your past studies you would often be put back in sophomore or junior level studios, so it could take 2-4 years to finish that way. It wouldn't be the route I'd recommend. I think you should talk to your current program's people and try to get help charting a way forward.
Also, out of curiosity, what M.Arch program are you attending where anything less than a B makes you fail the whole program? Almost all the M.Arch programs I know consider a C a "low pass", and you'd only hit even probation level if your cumulative GPA was less than B - not just one course.
Its unclear right now since there is still a final exam but advisors, professors, program director are all aware. It is actually a structures course..so unrelated to design studios...its been a while but I took two years of structures in undergrad which were always fine..If it were a matter of that was the only thing left i had to do and could just study for a while then there would be hope.. but the exam is literally right before studio final so it really puts a limit on how much studying is possible..i might share the later but i think its best not to right now. The rule is anything under a B is not considered passing.
So you're giving up on one course because of studio? Tough luck, but everyone else also has to deal with that. Just be efficient with your time and dedicate a few hours per day to the failing course. You don't need to put in 80+ hour weeks for studio if you know how to work smart.
Nowhere did I say i was giving up because of studio....nope not a single place. I said it was a matter of how much time I can study in between working on my groups studio project due the next day. Not everyone in studio is in the class.
It certainly appears that way but regardless, there is plenty of time to set up a balanced schedule to avoid a failing grade.
I do think the OP should do whatever possible to pass, but "plenty of time" may or may not be the case. Next week is the end of the semester for some universities (even this week for some, though it'd be a fait accompli in that case I guess.) is there a week left? 2? A few days?
I failed a required course in grad school. The world didn't end. I just had to take it again the following fall. I had to also wait on the 2 more advanced courses for which it was a prerequisite, so it changed around my schedule a bit from most of my classmates' but I did graduate on time. I did get a letter about being on probation for a semester, but it didn't affect financial aid or anything and I even still won competitive awards. If you fail you won't be the first who ever did, and I'm sure you won't be expelled over it!