I am a M. Arch candidate, and am independently instructing an AutoCAD course. Does this count as AXP hours? In what category? Thank you very much.
archanonymous
Feb 21, 19 6:44 pm
NCARB spells out the categories and what can be applied to them very clearly on their website and the AXP/ ARE guide.
BulgarBlogger
Feb 21, 19 10:20 pm
How can you be teaching if you don't read...God help your students...
starrchitect
Mar 28, 19 5:48 pm
The blind leading the blind.
Regina Troglin
Sep 13, 23 12:35 pm
honestly this isn't am appropriate comment.
BulgarBlogger
Sep 13, 23 4:20 pm
Why not? Read the AXP guidelines. Where does it say that teaching counts? So if I come on this forum and ask a code question and run with an answer that is contrary to code, does that a absolve me following the code because some random stranger on Archinect told me so? Part of being a masters degree student is being able to discern between reliable and unreliable sources. But then again I’m just a licensed architect with a mere Bachelor (not Masters) of Architecture. What do I know?
samuelhill
Mar 28, 19 2:08 pm
The reason I asked here is because it is not specifically addressed in NCARB's website. I have heard from licensed professionals that it can count, and I wanted to hear the community's opinion on the matter. But it does not seem like the community has much to offer.
Non Sequitur
Mar 28, 19 2:21 pm
Look under Experience Setting O. Does not appear that teaching drafting counts under "DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION RELATED EMPLOYMENT"
mlstlouis
Jun 30, 20 4:33 pm
So, if you're teaching architectural design, or construction-related courses...
eeayeeayo
Mar 28, 19 2:30 pm
This is an instance where NCARB's rules have changed, so it makes sense that you're hearing something different from already-licensed people than you're finding in the AXP guidelines. Years ago there was a certain amount of experience that was allowed to be earned in the specific experience category of full-time teaching in an NAAB-accredited architecture school's degree programs. (Instructing one AutoCAD course wouldn't have counted even then, because you had to be employed in teaching more than 20 hours a week.)
Teaching is not currently an AXP experience setting. In "the old days" there were many different settings and categories. These days there's just "Category A" for working in an architecture firm, and "Category O" for everything else.
There are still certain tasks that are allowed to be earned in any "Category O" setting, which you might conceivably be able to earn while teaching - for instance if you were to attend a building tour as part of class trip, or work on a construction project that's part of the curriculum, or go to a seminar or film series that's been approved for AIA learning units, or something like that. But there's no longer a way to just count teaching hours toward AXP.
BulgarBlogger
Mar 28, 19 2:47 pm
how can you teach without experience? lol
starrchitect
Mar 28, 19 5:47 pm
Better yet, how can anyone teach architecture at a university level without being licensed first?Would a doctor without board certification be permitted to teach at a medical school?
Regina Troglin
Sep 13, 23 12:37 pm
actually you can teach quite well, since a Masters is required for teaching at a university. also being licensed doesn't make for experience that would benefit students, and not all licensed individuals should be teaching
Chad Miller
Sep 13, 23 2:35 pm
Not many unlicensed individuals should be teaching architecture. Especially studio classes.
msparchitect
Sep 13, 23 2:42 pm
No. Bulgar and Star's comments have more to do with one of the larger problems at University. Too many professors themselves are inexperienced. They're academics at heart and go from M.Arch to teaching. OK, that's kind of OK. But it's also perpetuating the profession in a time capsule of what it once was, but not what it is. So students are being taught "what the profession is" by people who themselves don't even know it. They live in a different world. Then, you get a plethora of graduates every year who show up looking for jobs, but struggle to be useful or financially worth much. Then they get upset that the world isn't what their professors promised. It's kind of lazy. And a racket to goto "architecture school" to be taught by... well not architects.
b3tadine[sutures]
Sep 13, 23 3:32 pm
One of my best professor's for studio, was not a licensed architect, and he provided me one the best experiences I've ever had. Critically, esthetically and creatively.
Non Sequitur
Sep 13, 23 7:20 pm
Don’t think any of my undergrad studio profs had licenses but they did have killer teaching chops. You don’t get that anyone from fresh grads jumping straight into teaching without real life experience. Come to think about it, my only design prof with a license was the resident kook. Triple F was a favorite grade of his.
BulgarBlogger
Sep 13, 23 7:53 pm
Music school isn't any different... a bunch of people who have never gotten anywhere teach...
I am a M. Arch candidate, and am independently instructing an AutoCAD course. Does this count as AXP hours? In what category? Thank you very much.
NCARB spells out the categories and what can be applied to them very clearly on their website and the AXP/ ARE guide.
How can you be teaching if you don't read...God help your students...
The blind leading the blind.
honestly this isn't am appropriate comment.
Why not? Read the AXP guidelines. Where does it say that teaching counts? So if I come on this forum and ask a code question and run with an answer that is contrary to code, does that a absolve me following the code because some random stranger on Archinect told me so? Part of being a masters degree student is being able to discern between reliable and unreliable sources. But then again I’m just a licensed architect with a mere Bachelor (not Masters) of Architecture. What do I know?
The reason I asked here is because it is not specifically addressed in NCARB's website. I have heard from licensed professionals that it can count, and I wanted to hear the community's opinion on the matter. But it does not seem like the community has much to offer.
Look under Experience Setting O. Does not appear that teaching drafting counts under "DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION RELATED EMPLOYMENT"
So, if you're teaching architectural design, or construction-related courses...
This is an instance where NCARB's rules have changed, so it makes sense that you're hearing something different from already-licensed people than you're finding in the AXP guidelines. Years ago there was a certain amount of experience that was allowed to be earned in the specific experience category of full-time teaching in an NAAB-accredited architecture school's degree programs. (Instructing one AutoCAD course wouldn't have counted even then, because you had to be employed in teaching more than 20 hours a week.)
Teaching is not currently an AXP experience setting. In "the old days" there were many different settings and categories. These days there's just "Category A" for working in an architecture firm, and "Category O" for everything else.
There are still certain tasks that are allowed to be earned in any "Category O" setting, which you might conceivably be able to earn while teaching - for instance if you were to attend a building tour as part of class trip, or work on a construction project that's part of the curriculum, or go to a seminar or film series that's been approved for AIA learning units, or something like that. But there's no longer a way to just count teaching hours toward AXP.
how can you teach without experience? lol
Better yet, how can anyone teach architecture at a university level without being licensed first?Would a doctor without board certification be permitted to teach at a medical school?
actually you can teach quite well, since a Masters is required for teaching at a university. also being licensed doesn't make for experience that would benefit students, and not all licensed individuals should be teaching
Not many unlicensed individuals should be teaching architecture. Especially studio classes.
No. Bulgar and Star's comments have more to do with one of the larger problems at University. Too many professors themselves are inexperienced. They're academics at heart and go from M.Arch to teaching. OK, that's kind of OK. But it's also perpetuating the profession in a time capsule of what it once was, but not what it is. So students are being taught "what the profession is" by people who themselves don't even know it. They live in a different world. Then, you get a plethora of graduates every year who show up looking for jobs, but struggle to be useful or financially worth much. Then they get upset that the world isn't what their professors promised. It's kind of lazy. And a racket to goto "architecture school" to be taught by... well not architects.
One of my best professor's for studio, was not a licensed architect, and he provided me one the best experiences I've ever had. Critically, esthetically and creatively.
Don’t think any of my undergrad studio profs had licenses but they did have killer teaching chops. You don’t get that anyone from fresh grads jumping straight into teaching without real life experience. Come to think about it, my only design prof with a license was the resident kook. Triple F was a favorite grade of his.
Music school isn't any different... a bunch of people who have never gotten anywhere teach...
Good lord. What a bunch of a-hole answers.
The answers are appropriate.