curious question... has anyone smoked weed while like designing? Since it’s legal now and everything in the North... I’ve been thinking about coming into work alittle high to get the creative juices flowing. Maybe my boss will give me a raise for the extra creativity? Or I get fired not sure which will happen first. So anyways I come from a strict family no drugs or alcholol... and I’ve never smoked weed before... what is it like? Should I eat gummies or smoke during lunch break?
Koww
Oct 17, 18 11:06 pm
a lot of good musicians have done heroin
Non Sequitur
Oct 17, 18 11:46 pm
Going into an office high is the same as going in drunk. Why not just knock back a few shots while you're at it? I have nothing against recreational use, but if I'm paying you or you're on my project, you better be 100% sober because I'm not wasting resources on someone so daft as to think they can work effectively under the influence.
godcomplex
Oct 18, 18 2:57 am
That's the same argument as saying 'its bad cuz its illegal'.
It depends on the use case, some folks can actually increase productivity and focus. There are a lot of variables at play - kind of strain, kind of work etc. Enhanced functionality is certainly possible, though not for all.
Just sayin its not so black and white. Sure if its a rando contractor I'd rather he be sober. If its a coworker and we're working on developing a concept then I have personally seen it enhance the work.
Non Sequitur
Oct 18, 18 7:34 am
Ricky, I suspect the OP is Canadian, hence the “North” reference in the original question and Trudeau word play in the avatar name. Anyways, if that’s the case, recreational use of Cannabis was made 100% legal on Wednesday this week across the entire country. Most jurisdictions do not however permit smoking weed outside in public spaces. Clean air act here is 9m from any building entrance. 10-feet? Ha, what’s the point with that?
Bench
Oct 18, 18 9:31 am
Agree with NS Except for casual Friday lunch beers, because, ya know, its Friday.
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 9, 19 1:14 am
he’s got hypothetical employees now you guys
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 10, 19 12:45 pm
you should look up the word hypothetica
l
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 11, 19 2:29 am
wow.
Non Sequitur
Nov 11, 19 7:45 am
My poor freking inbox.... man.
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 11, 19 3:32 pm
pbts is indeed a licensed and practicing architect, as well as a graduate of two ivy league architecture programs (which were attended on full scholarship), a published author, and a tenure-track assistant professor. I’m telling you this not to brag or flex or make myself sound fancy; it’s just to clarify that when I say you have no fucking standing to give advice, it’s because I do have that standing, and I only do because I put in a lot of fucking work that you haven’t.
Non Sequitur
Nov 11, 19 4:23 pm
So, splines... looks like you're talking to yourself up here. Ricky's posts get nuked?
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 11, 19 4:30 pm
apparently. why that doesn’t happen more often is an absolute fucking mystery.
godcomplex
Oct 18, 18 3:09 am
I can certainly make a case for working under altered states of mind..it's not for everyone sure, I can say that also.
Psychedelics also possess lots of potential as a design aid, having conducted a few sessions where all folks were dosed with an average amount of lsd, focusing on concept development. Lead to some proper unconventional ideas.
Write high edit sober [user discretion for sure]
It is a tool at the end of the day, that's how I look at it
godcomplex
Oct 18, 18 3:27 am
No one is talking about using these substances in an office setting. More like personal work, competitions etc.
godcomplex
Oct 18, 18 3:40 am
And your last statement showcases your narrow point of view rick. I can be sufficiently creative without these substances. Just wanna ask, have you ever had any experience with these substances in a setting other than with party-bois or folks who just wanna trip? Or at all? Maybe you should do some research about how these things affect the neurochemistry and tie in with perception and cognition. You are an architect after all [?], and it always helps to expand our limited understanding of things, free from dogma and pre-conceived notions
placebeyondthesplines
Nov 11, 19 2:30 am
I heard you’re a building designer; what buildings have you designed?
wensla45
Oct 18, 18 3:15 am
Nope man, it's illegal where I am. Don't wanna get in trouble. Better to just follow the law.
RosaBreed
Oct 19, 19 1:01 am
It is better to follow a legal. Do not get stuck in the problem.
randomised
Oct 18, 18 4:44 am
OP, first try it in a non-work environment, at home or somewhere safe and familiar. Different people respond differently to different drugs, I once couldn't stand on my legs after inhaling only once (weed). You wouldn't want that to happen at work, do you? I did play chess once or twice while smoking weed, that went quite alright, never designed high though.
OneLostArchitect
Oct 18, 18 7:06 am
So dumb question... what does if feel like to smoke it? Like... how does it feel? Also can I smoke one before going into work if it’s legal?
Non Sequitur
Oct 18, 18 7:29 am
See my excellent point above.
Bench
Oct 18, 18 9:33 am
Dude, if you live in Canada, its legal now. Give it a try. Just not before work / driving / operating heavy machinery / etc.
Non Sequitur
Oct 18, 18 9:39 am
^it almost seems to me that the question was asked while high... or perhaps it's just me reading it using a cheech & chong voice.
rickrossdaboss
Oct 18, 18 9:55 am
what are you, in high school?
Go try it if you’re so curious, like someone else said it’s legal now
OneLostArchitect
Oct 18, 18 12:53 pm
Ricky I’m Canadian
rickrossdaboss
Oct 18, 18 1:08 pm
My advice go buy some and enjoy. Don’t go to work like that especially if it’s your first time. I’ve found that my productivity increases for irrelevant things, no
t for work. Then again, I’ve always had a short attention span
ArchNyen
Sep 6, 19 1:43 pm
I see what you did there "high" school. hahah good pun
JLC-1
Oct 18, 18 12:47 pm
when you try it for the first time, you won't be able to talk, hopefully you will control the panic rush - after a couple of years of use, you can function and do other things besides just being "stoned", don't do it if you are under 21 I'd say; maturity and the ability to be aware of your surroundings play a big part in your relationship with weed.
on designing while high, yes - it helps with focus and letting go of your own mental barriers - BUT look at it again when sober and re draw it.
and avoid smoking it, there are other forms less carcinogenic to consume
sameolddoctor
Oct 18, 18 1:27 pm
Funny how no one commented on the name.
Non Sequitur
Oct 18, 18 1:33 pm
I did... but it was in response to Balkins, so probably got passed by most.
randomised
Oct 18, 18 1:51 pm
Don't know if smoking weed makes you a better architect, but it helps in learning how to tie a room together.
gibbost
Oct 18, 18 1:59 pm
Long-time functioning cannabis user here. Everyone's already said it, don't be dumb. It's not for office use--it's called 'recreational' for a reason.
That said, pot does have the ability to highten your senses. It opens the third eye. While alcohol generally numbs, pot has the ability to bring awareness--sometimes, too much awareness (paranoia). It can turn mundane activities fun again. Cooking, cleaning, movies, music, yard work, and yes, design can all be transformed by weed.
As an architect, I often find myself thinking three steps ahead. I tend to talk myself out of an idea because I've already thought thru why it won't work. Psychotropics allow you to power thru that and get it down on paper. 'In the zone' I call it. And then--as already pointed out above--come back later and edit when sober.
mightyaa
Oct 18, 18 3:26 pm
Um... I don't know Canadian laws, but I would not recommend it. Basically, designing impaired, because buildings are regulated and the professionals are licensed and there are legal expectations by the public, if discovered could easily lose you your license. So, the ramifications are much worse than just a drone in a business environment.
I've known alcoholics and drug users who've lost their certificates, licenses, etc. for extended periods of times. That doesn't even get into the legal ramifications, loss of insurance coverage, etc.; its like giving everyone but you a get out jail free card to point at the stoned/drunk architect at the helm as irresponsible and negligent.
randomised
Oct 18, 18 3:36 pm
The early conceptual part of a project or competition can certainly benefit from a little intoxication now and then, I've worked late nights on deadlines for competitions and projects where everybody had beers.
mightyaa
Oct 18, 18 6:55 pm
Agreed... less risky if its just a design exercise and not technical or coordination level stuff. Just remember "reasonable and prudent" is sort of how you'll be judged by peers. So... A bar napkin sketch is the stereotype and easier to explain away. The hard part is convincing your peers pot isn't vastly different than alcohol... society norms come into play here.
archinine
Oct 19, 18 5:12 pm
Lolololol
Young people always seem to think drugs make them ‘more creative’
Pro tip that’s not true. You’ll only think that while high but immediately after you’ll see it’s just like being on any other intoxicant, you’re slower and not very productive. Likely to make a bunch of dumb mistakes and be incoherent when interacting with sober people.
And yes if your boss finds out you’re high/drunk on the job they will definitely fire you on the spot.
gibbost
Oct 19, 18 7:04 pm
You seem to speak with authority. Are you reflecting on past experience or just relying on tired stereotypes? I would argue that much of the music, art, & architecture you've enjoyed over the years was produced by folks that found creativity while intoxicated. The OP was specifically about design--which inherently dovetails with an expanded mindset.
randomised
Oct 20, 18 5:43 am
nine, it sounds like you could use a joint or two :)
natematt
Oct 23, 18 12:21 pm
It's not just young people. I know a lot of bosses who use. I think people who use tend to be the ones who think it helps. Maybe that's why they do it, maybe it's just a convenient coincidence that supports their decisions...
archinine
Oct 20, 18 10:22 am
Designing high as a student can be fun...Working in an office that way is a recipe for disaster. It’s sometimes helpful to work through a problem nagging at you AFTER you’ve gone home for the day. But more creative? Bullshit. That’s a placebo. Its that breaking down another step in the problem you were already focused on that makes it useful. But certainly not for the whole process. It’s more a tool which one has to learn how to use, and not to abuse. Much like drinking is a social lubricant which can be useful in certain scenarios. But again don’t go crazy and be drunk all day at work...
emb98
Oct 20, 18 10:30 am
I smoke weed every day. I work for a general and the environment is fast-paced. When I couldn't keep up at first, my red eyes and smoky aroma were all too obvious. Now that my work is valued around the office, no one seems to mind. Everyone (including myself) blamed marijuana for making me dumb when I was actually just plain ol' fashioned stupid
thaliadaniels
Oct 23, 18 11:54 am
I've tried before and I didn't finish what I'm designing that time. :) BECAUSE I GOT HIGH, BECAUSE I GOT HIGH :)
johnseymour
Sep 4, 19 12:53 pm
I work as a LookDev Artist and sometimes dabble with the herb and then sit down and deisgn, although never work, just personal stuff and sometimes, yeah, I will look the at what I'd done under the influence the night before and be quite impressed, trying new techniques, breaking out from my comfort zone...
But then there have been a couple of times, when I've looked the next morning, when I've just thought 'Oh no - that is just abject shite...'
I do know something though, don't do it and watch TV/Film, as plots will mean nothing...
proto
Sep 5, 19 2:35 pm
i learned so much in this thread
I'm "laying down the pattern" right now
Dokuser
Oct 18, 19 9:30 pm
I’ve never smoked in my life, yet I have had many people from my studio class ask me if i’m high. So no, I don’t plan on doing it anytime soon. haha
nabrU
Oct 19, 19 2:16 am
I used to smoke weed when I was younger and still do and design stuff. There's a few associates at ZHA who had plenty bats in the cave, I'd rather work with stoners than coke heads personally, better work gets done in my experience.
citizen
Jul 19, 20 12:27 am
ROFL. That's your choice, pot heads or coke heads? What, no problem gamblers or shoplifters?
Mormolyce
Nov 8, 19 4:17 pm
it's illegal where I`m
tduds
Nov 8, 19 4:43 pm
I prefer a nice scotch.
luigigisolfi
Jul 18, 20 3:47 pm
I actually tried designing the same concept with and without weed: better without.
I've been smoking for 10 years now and yes, the process is funnier when you're high, you quickly get in the flow but honestly - and it might sound controversial - I was a bit more creative as sober.
Then if you do research maybe it could help - let's say it, you see things on a different prospective, but apparently I do less when I'm high. If you are one of those lucky ones who are more proactive when high god bless you, please teach me haha
Yosep
Apr 12, 21 6:05 pm
It's how you use it, not if it's good or not. It definitely increases creativity. But you have to master it and that's the difficult part of the job, and when you reach it the results are more than satisfaying
zonker
Apr 12, 21 8:14 pm
there is a Pot shop just down the street from where I live - I don't smoke a "bowl" while I'm on active duty -
curious question... has anyone smoked weed while like designing? Since it’s legal now and everything in the North... I’ve been thinking about coming into work alittle high to get the creative juices flowing. Maybe my boss will give me a raise for the extra creativity? Or I get fired not sure which will happen first. So anyways I come from a strict family no drugs or alcholol... and I’ve never smoked weed before... what is it like? Should I eat gummies or smoke during lunch break?
a lot of good musicians have done heroin
Going into an office high is the same as going in drunk. Why not just knock back a few shots while you're at it? I have nothing against recreational use, but if I'm paying you or you're on my project, you better be 100% sober because I'm not wasting resources on someone so daft as to think they can work effectively under the influence.
That's the same argument as saying 'its bad cuz its illegal'.
It depends on the use case, some folks can actually increase productivity and focus. There are a lot of variables at play - kind of strain, kind of work etc. Enhanced functionality is certainly possible, though not for all.
Just sayin its not so black and white. Sure if its a rando contractor I'd rather he be sober. If its a coworker and we're working on developing a concept then I have personally seen it enhance the work.
Ricky, I suspect the OP is Canadian, hence the “North” reference in the original question and Trudeau word play in the avatar name. Anyways, if that’s the case, recreational use of Cannabis was made 100% legal on Wednesday this week across the entire country. Most jurisdictions do not however permit smoking weed outside in public spaces. Clean air act here is 9m from any building entrance. 10-feet? Ha, what’s the point with that?
Agree with NS
Except for casual Friday lunch beers, because, ya know, its Friday.
he’s got hypothetical employees now you guys
you should look up the word hypothetica
l
wow.
My poor freking inbox.... man.
pbts is indeed a licensed and practicing architect, as well as a graduate of two ivy league architecture programs (which were attended on full scholarship), a published author, and a tenure-track assistant professor. I’m telling you this not to brag or flex or make myself sound fancy; it’s just to clarify that when I say you have no fucking standing to give advice, it’s because I do have that standing, and I only do because I put in a lot of fucking work that you haven’t.
So, splines... looks like you're talking to yourself up here. Ricky's posts get nuked?
apparently. why that doesn’t happen more often is an absolute fucking mystery.
I can certainly make a case for working under altered states of mind..it's not for everyone sure, I can say that also.
Psychedelics also possess lots of potential as a design aid, having conducted a few sessions where all folks were dosed with an average amount of lsd, focusing on concept development. Lead to some proper unconventional ideas.
Write high edit sober [user discretion for sure]
It is a tool at the end of the day, that's how I look at it
No one is talking about using these substances in an office setting. More like personal work, competitions etc.
And your last statement showcases your narrow point of view rick. I can be sufficiently creative without these substances. Just wanna ask, have you ever had any experience with these substances in a setting other than with party-bois or folks who just wanna trip? Or at all? Maybe you should do some research about how these things affect the neurochemistry and tie in with perception and cognition. You are an architect after all [?], and it always helps to expand our limited understanding of things, free from dogma and pre-conceived notions
I heard you’re a building designer; what buildings have you designed?
Nope man, it's illegal where I am. Don't wanna get in trouble. Better to just follow the law.
It is better to follow a legal. Do not get stuck in the problem.
OP, first try it in a non-work environment, at home or somewhere safe and familiar. Different people respond differently to different drugs, I once couldn't stand on my legs after inhaling only once (weed). You wouldn't want that to happen at work, do you? I did play chess once or twice while smoking weed, that went quite alright, never designed high though.
So dumb question... what does if feel like to smoke it? Like... how does it feel? Also can I smoke one before going into work if it’s legal?
See my excellent point above.
Dude, if you live in Canada, its legal now. Give it a try. Just not before work / driving / operating heavy machinery / etc.
^it almost seems to me that the question was asked while high... or perhaps it's just me reading it using a cheech & chong voice.
what are you, in high school?
Go try it if you’re so curious, like someone else said it’s legal now
Ricky I’m Canadian
My advice go buy some and enjoy. Don’t go to work like that especially if it’s your first time. I’ve found that my productivity increases for irrelevant things, no
t for work. Then again, I’ve always had a short attention span
I see what you did there "high" school. hahah good pun
when you try it for the first time, you won't be able to talk, hopefully you will control the panic rush - after a couple of years of use, you can function and do other things besides just being "stoned", don't do it if you are under 21 I'd say; maturity and the ability to be aware of your surroundings play a big part in your relationship with weed.
on designing while high, yes - it helps with focus and letting go of your own mental barriers - BUT look at it again when sober and re draw it.
and avoid smoking it, there are other forms less carcinogenic to consume
Funny how no one commented on the name.
I did... but it was in response to Balkins, so probably got passed by most.
Don't know if smoking weed makes you a better architect, but it helps in learning how to tie a room together.
Long-time functioning cannabis user here. Everyone's already said it, don't be dumb. It's not for office use--it's called 'recreational' for a reason.
That said, pot does have the ability to highten your senses. It opens the third eye. While alcohol generally numbs, pot has the ability to bring awareness--sometimes, too much awareness (paranoia). It can turn mundane activities fun again. Cooking, cleaning, movies, music, yard work, and yes, design can all be transformed by weed.
As an architect, I often find myself thinking three steps ahead. I tend to talk myself out of an idea because I've already thought thru why it won't work. Psychotropics allow you to power thru that and get it down on paper. 'In the zone' I call it. And then--as already pointed out above--come back later and edit when sober.
Um... I don't know Canadian laws, but I would not recommend it. Basically, designing impaired, because buildings are regulated and the professionals are licensed and there are legal expectations by the public, if discovered could easily lose you your license. So, the ramifications are much worse than just a drone in a business environment.
I've known alcoholics and drug users who've lost their certificates, licenses, etc. for extended periods of times. That doesn't even get into the legal ramifications, loss of insurance coverage, etc.; its like giving everyone but you a get out jail free card to point at the stoned/drunk architect at the helm as irresponsible and negligent.
The early conceptual part of a project or competition can certainly benefit from a little intoxication now and then, I've worked late nights on deadlines for competitions and projects where everybody had beers.
Agreed... less risky if its just a design exercise and not technical or coordination level stuff. Just remember "reasonable and prudent" is sort of how you'll be judged by peers. So... A bar napkin sketch is the stereotype and easier to explain away. The hard part is convincing your peers pot isn't vastly different than alcohol... society norms come into play here.
Lolololol
Young people always seem to think drugs make them ‘more creative’
Pro tip that’s not true. You’ll only think that while high but immediately after you’ll see it’s just like being on any other intoxicant, you’re slower and not very productive. Likely to make a bunch of dumb mistakes and be incoherent when interacting with sober people.
And yes if your boss finds out you’re high/drunk on the job they will definitely fire you on the spot.
You seem to speak with authority. Are you reflecting on past experience or just relying on tired stereotypes? I would argue that much of the music, art, & architecture you've enjoyed over the years was produced by folks that found creativity while intoxicated. The OP was specifically about design--which inherently dovetails with an expanded mindset.
nine, it sounds like you could use a joint or two :)
It's not just young people. I know a lot of bosses who use. I think people who use tend to be the ones who think it helps. Maybe that's why they do it, maybe it's just a convenient coincidence that supports their decisions...
Designing high as a student can be fun...Working in an office that way is a recipe for disaster. It’s sometimes helpful to work through a problem nagging at you AFTER you’ve gone home for the day. But more creative? Bullshit. That’s a placebo. Its that breaking down another step in the problem you were already focused on that makes it useful. But certainly not for the whole process. It’s more a tool which one has to learn how to use, and not to abuse. Much like drinking is a social lubricant which can be useful in certain scenarios. But again don’t go crazy and be drunk all day at work...
I smoke weed every day. I work for a general and the environment is fast-paced. When I couldn't keep up at first, my red eyes and smoky aroma were all too obvious. Now that my work is valued around the office, no one seems to mind. Everyone (including myself) blamed marijuana for making me dumb when I was actually just plain ol' fashioned stupid
I've tried before and I didn't finish what I'm designing that time. :) BECAUSE I GOT HIGH, BECAUSE I GOT HIGH :)
I work as a LookDev Artist and sometimes dabble with the herb and then sit down and deisgn, although never work, just personal stuff and sometimes, yeah, I will look the at what I'd done under the influence the night before and be quite impressed, trying new techniques, breaking out from my comfort zone...
But then there have been a couple of times, when I've looked the next morning, when I've just thought 'Oh no - that is just abject shite...'
I do know something though, don't do it and watch TV/Film, as plots will mean nothing...
i learned so much in this thread
I'm "laying down the pattern" right now
I’ve never smoked in my life, yet I have had many people from my studio class ask me if i’m high. So no, I don’t plan on doing it anytime soon. haha
I used to smoke weed when I was younger and still do and design stuff. There's a few associates at ZHA who had plenty bats in the cave, I'd rather work with stoners than coke heads personally, better work gets done in my experience.
ROFL. That's your choice, pot heads or coke heads? What, no problem gamblers or shoplifters?
it's illegal where I`m
I prefer a nice scotch.
I actually tried designing the same concept with and without weed: better without.
I've been smoking for 10 years now and yes, the process is funnier when you're high, you quickly get in the flow but honestly - and it might sound controversial - I was a bit more creative as sober.
Then if you do research maybe it could help - let's say it, you see things on a different prospective, but apparently I do less when I'm high. If you are one of those lucky ones who are more proactive when high god bless you, please teach me haha
It's how you use it, not if it's good or not. It definitely increases creativity. But you have to master it and that's the difficult part of the job, and when you reach it the results are more than satisfaying
there is a Pot shop just down the street from where I live - I don't smoke a "bowl" while I'm on active duty -