So I just graduated a couple of months ago, and I'm putting together my portfolio for a master's degree submission. My worry lies in the fact both universities I'm submitting to are among the highest ranked globally. I'm assuming this means a higher level of scrutiny of each portfolio.
Which brings me to my question: Could using a pirated version of Lumion cause problems at such institutions? I would've used the educational version, but the problem is individuals aren't eligible for the license. I also can't lie about this because the edu license adds a watermark to each render. If they figure out it's Lumion they'll know it's pirated.
In case I shouldn't use it, are there any free alternatives? Thanks in advance.
10974ks---
Sep 9, 18 10:48 am
don’t use it schools use an algorithm that scans images for plagiarism and pirated softwares. If your images are found out, and they will be, your application will be thrown out. Or worse, you will be arrested, especially because by posting this thread you are leaving proof of your intent to use illegally obtained software.
somekiwi
Sep 9, 18 1:21 pm
Thanks for the advice. I've been searching for other options and learned about an affordable vray license. Do you know of any better affordable options or is vray sufficient?
Non Sequitur
Sep 9, 18 3:35 pm
This is true. I can now almost always spot the images in folios that were made using pirated software. You gota pay to play so if you can't afford the licensing, don't bother applying.
inf.pln
Mar 8, 20 4:55 pm
this is the dumbest comment I have ever read. Admissions boards to universities have no stake or incentive to report students or applicants to corporations for using pirated software. The corporations that produce these softwares have no incentive to prosecute students for using these softwares. The "You gota pay to play so if you can't afford the licensing, don't bother applying" comment is possibly the most infuriating thing I have ever read.
Non Sequitur
Mar 8, 20 5:29 pm
so, is that why you brought back this dumb thread from the dead?
Non Sequitur
Sep 16, 22 9:15 pm
^you're not particularly bright, are you yourmom? Hear that? That's the sound of satire passing over your empty head.
b3tadine[sutures]
Sep 16, 22 9:29 pm
You know who cares about a thread that is four years old, his mom. Dopey dipshit.
randomised
Sep 9, 18 2:05 pm
Just use a pirated version and photoshop the watermark in it ;)
Bloopox
Sep 10, 18 12:48 pm
You say you're applying to the highest ranked universities. If so, this Lumion vs. vray thing is a non-issue, as those schools tend not to like or care about slick renderings anyway. They don't care about your digital modeling and rendering skills or about what software you know. You could do your whole portfolio with free Sketchup or with Microsoft Paint for that matter, and it wouldn't hurt your chances and might help them. What admissions committees care about most is visual evidence of your thought process and a sense that you don't give up easily and will obsessively iterate. To that end a portfolio full of 20 hand-doodled views or crumpled-paper models of the same thing, with slight variations, is much better than one beautiful rendering. Reworking all your undergrad projects is probably unnecessary - and if you are going to do that you'd be better off recreating the "getting there" design process artifacts than reworking the end product.
joseffischer
Sep 12, 18 7:38 am
While I agree, I do think it's funny. The advice is to NOT do another iteration of your project (which is the intent of what the schools want to see) but to focus on documenting as many iterations of the most flavorful part of your process (what the schools will actually look at). Imagine trying to actually document your process, not only would the portfolio be over 100 pages for each project, but 90% of it would be garbage... duh, that's why it didn't make the cut and that's why it's called trash paper. It's all about post-rationalization and curating the cream of the crop to look like you had a plan all along and were doggedly exploring the iterations of said vision.
sameolddoctor
Sep 11, 18 2:09 am
Get sketchup and so some stupid lazy "millennial renderings". School lap up that shit, especially if you wax some nice poetic with it.
archiwutm8
Sep 11, 18 2:51 am
Wait, schools care about this shit?
AlinaF
Sep 11, 18 4:15 pm
Can you not send them a hard copy? Schools I applied to for my MArch offered that option.
designerwriterbuilder
Sep 11, 18 8:52 pm
Please, lets not scare the young people here. Schools do not have the capabilities to check for work done on pirated software, nor do they wish to spend the time and effort it takes to find that out. They already spend so little time on each portfolio submission as it is.
With that being said, however, please don't use images taken from Lumion. They're more times than not ugly and sterile. While these may work for commercial firms that care about the bottom line, you as a student should spend the effort to create images that are personalized to your design sense. You're better off taking screens from your model and desaturating the image and then overlaying that with make2d linework.
I suggest you take a look at the successful portfolios for GSD and Yale SOA on issuu. How many Lumion renders do they contain?
Non Sequitur
Sep 12, 18 8:05 am
Hey, don't ruin our fun.
SneakyPete
Sep 12, 18 11:52 am
I don't wish to start an argument, however I'd like to suggest an alternative view which is to bring school work in line with real life. While the bottom line of a financially sound firm is profit, the bottom line of a student should be health. If beautiful, artful, personal renders going the way of the dodo would allow arch schools to become more healthy experiences for the students AND allow them to learn the ACTUAL SKILLS they will be using during their careers, I'd call that a win.
Don't listen to some ppl above, they just made up something scares you. The cracked version softwares are not good to use, if you are not experienced computer user, may just get you computer infected by virus.
Besides that, as a student, you could use it privately, in your personal computer, and do NOT share it with your friends or mates. Do NOT use it for commercial purpose. These 2 are the baselines. As a previous member of portfolio review board in Univ. , I can tell you we will not to, not need to and do not have time to check what software you use, nor if you are using them with legit lisences. We are more caring about how you use those tools to express and represent your idea.
archi_gram
Mar 9, 20 10:24 pm
lol sorry but everyone at my school use pirate software, even some faculty members. There is no way pirate lumion or rhino to make any difference from the real software. You have to think that the software engineers who cracked the software has to write extra code to make it produce different image, like who has time to do that? the registration mechanism of software is completely separated from the actual functions from the software. they are just different files with code
archi_gram
Mar 9, 20 10:29 pm
its kind of unfortunately but school do not use any mechanisms to detect plagiarisms in college applications, besides eyes. That means if you used stock image and the professors reviewing your application on an ipad can't recognize copyright issues, then nothing will happen. Not the case if you put a le corbusier building in there and claim your own because that's common knowledge. I don't endorse it, but unfortunately it all depends on if the professor looking at your portfolio thinks he or she has seem the artwork before
Hi guys,
So I just graduated a couple of months ago, and I'm putting together my portfolio for a master's degree submission. My worry lies in the fact both universities I'm submitting to are among the highest ranked globally. I'm assuming this means a higher level of scrutiny of each portfolio.
Which brings me to my question: Could using a pirated version of Lumion cause problems at such institutions? I would've used the educational version, but the problem is individuals aren't eligible for the license. I also can't lie about this because the edu license adds a watermark to each render. If they figure out it's Lumion they'll know it's pirated.
In case I shouldn't use it, are there any free alternatives? Thanks in advance.
don’t use it schools use an algorithm that scans images for plagiarism and pirated softwares. If your images are found out, and they will be, your application will be thrown out. Or worse, you will be arrested, especially because by posting this thread you are leaving proof of your intent to use illegally obtained software.
Thanks for the advice. I've been searching for other options and learned about an affordable vray license. Do you know of any better affordable options or is vray sufficient?
This is true. I can now almost always spot the images in folios that were made using pirated software. You gota pay to play so if you can't afford the licensing, don't bother applying.
this is the dumbest comment I have ever read. Admissions boards to universities have no stake or incentive to report students or applicants to corporations for using pirated software. The corporations that produce these softwares have no incentive to prosecute students for using these softwares. The "You gota pay to play so if you can't afford the licensing, don't bother applying" comment is possibly the most infuriating thing I have ever read.
so, is that why you brought back this dumb thread from the dead?
^you're not particularly bright, are you yourmom? Hear that? That's the sound of satire passing over your empty head.
You know who cares about a thread that is four years old, his mom. Dopey dipshit.
Just use a pirated version and photoshop the watermark in it ;)
You say you're applying to the highest ranked universities. If so, this Lumion vs. vray thing is a non-issue, as those schools tend not to like or care about slick renderings anyway. They don't care about your digital modeling and rendering skills or about what software you know. You could do your whole portfolio with free Sketchup or with Microsoft Paint for that matter, and it wouldn't hurt your chances and might help them. What admissions committees care about most is visual evidence of your thought process and a sense that you don't give up easily and will obsessively iterate. To that end a portfolio full of 20 hand-doodled views or crumpled-paper models of the same thing, with slight variations, is much better than one beautiful rendering. Reworking all your undergrad projects is probably unnecessary - and if you are going to do that you'd be better off recreating the "getting there" design process artifacts than reworking the end product.
While I agree, I do think it's funny. The advice is to NOT do another iteration of your project (which is the intent of what the schools want to see) but to focus on documenting as many iterations of the most flavorful part of your process (what the schools will actually look at). Imagine trying to actually document your process, not only would the portfolio be over 100 pages for each project, but 90% of it would be garbage... duh, that's why it didn't make the cut and that's why it's called trash paper. It's all about post-rationalization and curating the cream of the crop to look like you had a plan all along and were doggedly exploring the iterations of said vision.
Get sketchup and so some stupid lazy "millennial renderings". School lap up that shit, especially if you wax some nice poetic with it.
Wait, schools care about this shit?
Can you not send them a hard copy? Schools I applied to for my MArch offered that option.
Please, lets not scare the young people here. Schools do not have the capabilities to check for work done on pirated software, nor do they wish to spend the time and effort it takes to find that out. They already spend so little time on each portfolio submission as it is.
With that being said, however, please don't use images taken from Lumion. They're more times than not ugly and sterile. While these may work for commercial firms that care about the bottom line, you as a student should spend the effort to create images that are personalized to your design sense. You're better off taking screens from your model and desaturating the image and then overlaying that with make2d linework.
I suggest you take a look at the successful portfolios for GSD and Yale SOA on issuu. How many Lumion renders do they contain?
Hey, don't ruin our fun.
I don't wish to start an argument, however I'd like to suggest an alternative view which is to bring school work in line with real life. While the bottom line of a financially sound firm is profit, the bottom line of a student should be health. If beautiful, artful, personal renders going the way of the dodo would allow arch schools to become more healthy experiences for the students AND allow them to learn the ACTUAL SKILLS they will be using during their careers, I'd call that a win.
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Don't listen to some ppl above, they just made up something scares you. The cracked version softwares are not good to use, if you are not experienced computer user, may just get you computer infected by virus.
Besides that, as a student, you could use it privately, in your personal computer, and do NOT share it with your friends or mates. Do NOT use it for commercial purpose. These 2 are the baselines. As a previous member of portfolio review board in Univ. , I can tell you we will not to, not need to and do not have time to check what software you use, nor if you are using them with legit lisences. We are more caring about how you use those tools to express and represent your idea.
lol sorry but everyone at my school use pirate software, even some faculty members. There is no way pirate lumion or rhino to make any difference from the real software. You have to think that the software engineers who cracked the software has to write extra code to make it produce different image, like who has time to do that? the registration mechanism of software is completely separated from the actual functions from the software. they are just different files with code
its kind of unfortunately but school do not use any mechanisms to detect plagiarisms in college applications, besides eyes. That means if you used stock image and the professors reviewing your application on an ipad can't recognize copyright issues, then nothing will happen. Not the case if you put a le corbusier building in there and claim your own because that's common knowledge. I don't endorse it, but unfortunately it all depends on if the professor looking at your portfolio thinks he or she has seem the artwork before