Hired a general Contractor. No signed contract between. (Friend) Gave him $ to file permit and handle all issues at county level. Gave him $ to choose steel company of his choice and handle everything- complete engineered plans and get them stamped. Been since May trying to get permit. Says he did file but county lost paperwork. I have been trying to get an electronic set of engineered plans from GenSteel so I can just go file permit myself! My GC authorized plans to be released to me. I have been in contact with GenSteel. Been 4 days. They will not answer calls or give me the stamped plans. Why? I just want my stamped plans. What do I need to do? Any advice?
( o Y o )
Sep 7, 18 9:56 pm
Error #1: Hired a friend. Error #2: No written agreement. Error #3: No architect. Error #4: Impatient. Error #5: Assuming that anyone here can sort out your situation.
If the GC is truly your friend he will take care of the situation. If not at least you will know where you stand.
Fendi
Sep 8, 18 12:02 am
Thank you
Non Sequitur
Sep 7, 18 10:53 pm
error #6: asking anonymous online forum members for help with adult decisions.
How much did you pay this friend of yours?
Fendi
Sep 8, 18 12:03 am
$8500 to get things started
Non Sequitur
Sep 8, 18 12:05 am
daaaamn
archi_dude
Sep 7, 18 11:00 pm
Because “Gensteel” probably is providing shop drawings not an engineered building set?
Fendi
Sep 8, 18 12:06 am
Correct. Gen Steel does provide GC with an electronic complete engineered set.
Flatfish
Sep 7, 18 11:01 pm
Are you sure your friend the GC ever actually paid for steel plans? Or did they "lose the plans", in the same way that the county "lost the paperwork"? I bet your GC also "lost the receipts" from paying for these things, right?
Fendi
Sep 8, 18 12:10 am
I have not been able to get copy of the ACH transaction to GenSteel . Correct, Has not been able to provide receipt of check written for application fee to county.
Flatfish
Sep 8, 18 12:36 am
So find out what your state's limit is for small claims court and sue your friend for the $8k or whatever portion is allowed. And are you in a state that licenses GC's? If so then report the theft of the $8k, and the not getting a signed contract, to the appropriate state board. It doesn't sound like the steel company was ever paid (and possibly never even actually contacted in the first place by this GC), so naturally they're not going to give you files.
Fendi
Sep 8, 18 10:38 am
Thank you for you advice. I appreciate it. The GC is licensed. GenSteel sent me email stating a contract was signed, but still not willing to forward me any documentation or proof. (Even after email with GC authorization form). Basically I’m wondering What is appropriate way to General Steel ?
Flatfish
Sep 8, 18 2:26 pm
If the steel company has confirmed that there's a contract, then there are a few possibilities: 1. The most likely reason you're having difficulty is because you're not a party to that contract. The contract is between your GC and the steel company, so your GC is the only one to whom they owe drawings. They have no legal obligation to give you the drawings. Your GC would need to get the drawings from the steel company and deliver them to you. 2. It's possible the steel company hasn't been paid yet. In that case they're not going to cooperate unless either you or your GC pay them. 3. They may not have done the work yet, so are being evasive and stalling because they've got nothing to give you. 4. As someone else suggested, it's possible that your GC's contract with them was for shop drawings, not delegated engineering. You don't have a copy of the contract so you can't determine that.
archinine
Sep 8, 18 12:16 pm
Can I have $8500? I can get things started for you...
Hired a general Contractor. No signed contract between. (Friend) Gave him $ to file permit and handle all issues at county level. Gave him $ to choose steel company of his choice and handle everything- complete engineered plans and get them stamped. Been since May trying to get permit. Says he did file but county lost paperwork. I have been trying to get an electronic set of engineered plans from GenSteel so I can just go file permit myself! My GC authorized plans to be released to me. I have been in contact with GenSteel. Been 4 days. They will not answer calls or give me the stamped plans. Why? I just want my stamped plans. What do I need to do? Any advice?
Error #1: Hired a friend.
Error #2: No written agreement.
Error #3: No architect.
Error #4: Impatient.
Error #5: Assuming that anyone here can sort out your situation.
If the GC is truly your friend he will take care of the situation. If not at least you will know where you stand.
Thank you
error #6: asking anonymous online forum members for help with adult decisions.
How much did you pay this friend of yours?
$8500 to get things started
daaaamn
Because “Gensteel” probably is providing shop drawings not an engineered building set?
Correct. Gen Steel does provide GC with an electronic complete engineered set.
Are you sure your friend the GC ever actually paid for steel plans? Or did they "lose the plans", in the same way that the county "lost the paperwork"? I bet your GC also "lost the receipts" from paying for these things, right?
I have not been able to get copy of the ACH transaction to GenSteel . Correct, Has not been able to provide receipt of check written for application fee to county.
So find out what your state's limit is for small claims court and sue your friend for the $8k or whatever portion is allowed. And are you in a state that licenses GC's? If so then report the theft of the $8k, and the not getting a signed contract, to the appropriate state board. It doesn't sound like the steel company was ever paid (and possibly never even actually contacted in the first place by this GC), so naturally they're not going to give you files.
Thank you for you advice. I appreciate it. The GC is licensed. GenSteel sent me email stating a contract was signed, but still not willing to forward me any documentation or proof. (Even after email with GC authorization form). Basically I’m wondering What is appropriate way to General Steel ?
If the steel company has confirmed that there's a contract, then there are a few possibilities: 1. The most likely reason you're having difficulty is because you're not a party to that contract. The contract is between your GC and the steel company, so your GC is the only one to whom they owe drawings. They have no legal obligation to give you the drawings. Your GC would need to get the drawings from the steel company and deliver them to you. 2. It's possible the steel company hasn't been paid yet. In that case they're not going to cooperate unless either you or your GC pay them. 3. They may not have done the work yet, so are being evasive and stalling because they've got nothing to give you. 4. As someone else suggested, it's possible that your GC's contract with them was for shop drawings, not delegated engineering. You don't have a copy of the contract so you can't determine that.
Can I have $8500? I can get things started for you...
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