in my country we have an organization named "CODIA" and they take care of regulate and publish the document, about the minimum fee of the profesion, either per hour, per porcentage of the cost for construction, etc... i need something like that, in different countries focused in BIM methodology
b3tadine[sutures]
Jan 31, 18 7:37 am
Look to our friends in Canada, they have great documents on the internet about how to think about fees.
Non Sequitur
Jan 31, 18 7:48 am
Yes, yes we do.
b3tadine[sutures]
Jan 31, 18 10:09 am
I use it, as a "guide" and it helps me consider basic services, so I don't miss anything. It really demonstrates a clearer sense of our value.
bowling_ball
Jan 31, 18 10:26 am
You can cut those fees by 1/3 at least to get a real sense of what it takes to be competitive.
Wilma Buttfit
Jan 31, 18 10:33 am
I've checked out those Canadian resources too. Yup, illegal in the states. Can I suggest we stop using the word fees? Fees implies there is no work done, just a price to get past the gate. Let's start calling it compensation.
Miles Jaffe
Jan 31, 18 11:54 am
com·pen·sa·tion noun
something, typically money, awarded to someone as a recompense for loss, injury, or suffering.
"seeking compensation for injuries suffered at work"
Yes, that is much more accurate.
geezertect
Jan 31, 18 11:58 am
I like fee better because it's directly associated with money. Compensation is any benefit. "Isn't the thrill of design compensation enough?", says the incredulous client.
Wilma Buttfit
Jan 31, 18 1:02 pm
I'd say, sure the design is free which means the compensation is for the drawing and coordinating of the plans, obtaining a building permit, creating a scope of work for a bidder, etc.
bowling_ball
Jan 31, 18 1:39 pm
To be very clear, the Canadian guidelines are just that - guidelines. Just like in the US, price fixing is illegal here too. The only time we really refer to the guidelines is to show clients that they're getting good value for their fees - because we always, always charge much less than the guideline fees
The AIA has been part of the history of the problem.
James Petty
Jan 31, 18 11:16 pm
Money shouldn't be a 4-letter word.... but for some reason in our education it is. This is a fantastic journal that every architecture student should read before entering the real profession: Amazon: Perspecta 47: Money
geezertect
Feb 1, 18 7:48 am
Architects have always been in love with the romance of the suffering and starving artist. Either that, or the rich scion who is doing it as a hobby. Neither vision is very suitable for a middle class schlub living in the real world.
Wilma Buttfit
Feb 1, 18 10:03 am
If money is a dirty word, call it currency. (looks like a good book).
Hi, from Dom. Rep.
in my country we have an organization named "CODIA" and they take care of regulate and publish the document, about the minimum fee of the profesion, either per hour, per porcentage of the cost for construction, etc...
i need something like that, in different countries focused in BIM methodology
Look to our friends in Canada, they have great documents on the internet about how to think about fees.
Yes, yes we do.
I use it, as a "guide" and it helps me consider basic services, so I don't miss anything. It really demonstrates a clearer sense of our value.
You can cut those fees by 1/3 at least to get a real sense of what it takes to be competitive.
I've checked out those Canadian resources too. Yup, illegal in the states. Can I suggest we stop using the word fees? Fees implies there is no work done, just a price to get past the gate. Let's start calling it compensation.
com·pen·sa·tion noun
something, typically money, awarded to someone as a recompense for loss, injury, or suffering. "seeking compensation for injuries suffered at work"
Yes, that is much more accurate.
I like fee better because it's directly associated with money. Compensation is any benefit. "Isn't the thrill of design compensation enough?", says the incredulous client.
I'd say, sure the design is free which means the compensation is for the drawing and coordinating of the plans, obtaining a building permit, creating a scope of work for a bidder, etc.
To be very clear, the Canadian guidelines are just that - guidelines. Just like in the US, price fixing is illegal here too. The only time we really refer to the guidelines is to show clients that they're getting good value for their fees - because we always, always charge much less than the guideline fees
http://entrearchitect.com/2017...
The AIA has been part of the history of the problem.
Money shouldn't be a 4-letter word.... but for some reason in our education it is. This is a fantastic journal that every architecture student should read before entering the real profession: Amazon: Perspecta 47: Money
Architects have always been in love with the romance of the suffering and starving artist. Either that, or the rich scion who is doing it as a hobby. Neither vision is very suitable for a middle class schlub living in the real world.
If money is a dirty word, call it currency. (looks like a good book).