How do I decide between pursuing a career as an architect, or a career in urban planning?
I am an upperclassman in an undergrad architecture program in the US- and I am approaching time to choose grad school.
I always thought I'd be an architect ever since I was 11. I have worked in a handful of smaller architecture firms, been in the undergrad scene of architecture for 6 years (was part time for a while so I could work, hence the extended time period), and suddenly I am finding myself wondering if being an architect isn't for me.
I feel pretty worn out, I despise hand-making models in class, and I never feel like putting in insane amount of work into my projects like my peers. I also feel discouraged by working in the real world firms: the architects I have seen have always seemed overworked, underpaid, and somewhat cynical.
On the other hand, I love architectural history and political science (I am working on two minors in these). I like reading Jane Jacobs, theories about The Radiant City, etc. I am very interested in the idea of architecture changing society and making places safer and developing places into better versions of themselves. This makes me wonder if I would like Urban Planning.
Here are my concerns though:
-I've been in school a long time. Maybe I just feel burned out because it's been a long time. Then again, this doesn't even compare to doing this for my whole LIFE. I'm tired after 6 years, but then expect to be passionate for 50?
-I have wanted to be an architect since I was 11. After so many years, I'm going to run off of a total whim in my last years of undergrad?
-Urban Planning isn't really "design". Will I miss it? It's hard to tell with my current feelings of fatigue.
-Isn't it hard to find a career as an Urban Planner? As an architect, I feel I could go anywhere. But Urban Planners are often limited to major cities, and there can't be more than a handful in each place, right?
-I've been spoiled by paid architecture internships; will I have to go half a decade as an unpaid, coffee-retrieving lackey if I pursue Urban Planning?
Thank you to anyone who can offer me advice. I am aware that I am the only one who truly can know the answer, but I am quite lost at the moment and appreciate any comments that can help me out of this maze.
starrchitect
Mar 3, 17 8:48 pm
You answered your own inquiry. You are the only who one truly can know the answer.
randomised
Mar 4, 17 7:49 am
Do both and cross-fertilise.
geezertect
Mar 4, 17 9:48 am
If you want to "change the society", architecture is not the way to do it. Common delusion in this profession.
Try to be a builder/developer: Those with the gold make the rules.
starrchitect
Mar 4, 17 10:53 am
This. AKA...The Golden Rule.
hellion
Nov 15, 17 7:01 am
Preach! Being an architect is never enough.
Colby Cline
Feb 23, 19 4:57 pm
Agreed. Masters of Urban Design programs have been trying to bridge this divide, but sadly don't set you up for any sort of licensure. The professions really have gone two different ways over the last half century a
citizen
Mar 4, 17 3:13 pm
A couple of items:
First and most obvious: consider urban design. You've already got an architecture degree, which is critical. A masters in planning or UD should prepare you nicely. UD practice is still very much about design, but often without the crazy hours.
Lots of "planning" (as well as UD) gets done in private firms consulting for local governments whose planning departments are small. So you're not necessarily tied to public agency employment.
cipyboy
Mar 8, 17 1:25 pm
take an M.Arch linked with a specialization in Urban Design. That way you can be both architect and urban designer/planner.I have always considered both as similar, as they're both dealing with built environment and cross paths once in a while , plus taking both will make a stronger profile for your resume.
sameolddoctor
Mar 8, 17 1:32 pm
NEITHER
kaplantom23
Jul 14, 17 2:30 pm
I agree with citizen above. Urban design can be so interdisciplinary and allow you do to all kinds of different things while designing.
randomised
Jul 14, 17 3:14 pm
Hi Steven!
citizen
Nov 15, 17 3:54 pm
That is FANTASTIC! I'd never seen it before.
"Isn't an architect just an art school dropout with a tilty table and a big ruler?"
novinsystem20
Nov 15, 17 6:13 am
take an M.Arch linked with a specialization in Urban Design. That way you can be both architect and urban designer/planner.I have always considered both as similar, as they're both dealing with built environment and cross paths once in a while , plus taking both will make a stronger profile for your resume
Looks like you like both, can't you somehow mix them?
fogrider
Jul 16, 19 12:21 pm
We recently published a "Planner Profile" here at APA with Amit Price Patel, AICP, AIA, who is both a planner and an architect! You might find some value in his perspective. Best of luck to you!
How do I decide between pursuing a career as an architect, or a career in urban planning?
I am an upperclassman in an undergrad architecture program in the US- and I am approaching time to choose grad school.
I always thought I'd be an architect ever since I was 11. I have worked in a handful of smaller architecture firms, been in the undergrad scene of architecture for 6 years (was part time for a while so I could work, hence the extended time period), and suddenly I am finding myself wondering if being an architect isn't for me.
I feel pretty worn out, I despise hand-making models in class, and I never feel like putting in insane amount of work into my projects like my peers. I also feel discouraged by working in the real world firms: the architects I have seen have always seemed overworked, underpaid, and somewhat cynical.
On the other hand, I love architectural history and political science (I am working on two minors in these). I like reading Jane Jacobs, theories about The Radiant City, etc. I am very interested in the idea of architecture changing society and making places safer and developing places into better versions of themselves. This makes me wonder if I would like Urban Planning.
Here are my concerns though:
-I've been in school a long time. Maybe I just feel burned out because it's been a long time. Then again, this doesn't even compare to doing this for my whole LIFE. I'm tired after 6 years, but then expect to be passionate for 50?
-I have wanted to be an architect since I was 11. After so many years, I'm going to run off of a total whim in my last years of undergrad?
-Urban Planning isn't really "design". Will I miss it? It's hard to tell with my current feelings of fatigue.
-Isn't it hard to find a career as an Urban Planner? As an architect, I feel I could go anywhere. But Urban Planners are often limited to major cities, and there can't be more than a handful in each place, right?
-I've been spoiled by paid architecture internships; will I have to go half a decade as an unpaid, coffee-retrieving lackey if I pursue Urban Planning?
Thank you to anyone who can offer me advice. I am aware that I am the only one who truly can know the answer, but I am quite lost at the moment and appreciate any comments that can help me out of this maze.
You answered your own inquiry. You are the only who one truly can know the answer.
Do both and cross-fertilise.
If you want to "change the society", architecture is not the way to do it. Common delusion in this profession.
Try to be a builder/developer: Those with the gold make the rules.
This. AKA...The Golden Rule.
Preach! Being an architect is never enough.
Agreed. Masters of Urban Design programs have been trying to bridge this divide, but sadly don't set you up for any sort of licensure. The professions really have gone two different ways over the last half century a
A couple of items:
take an M.Arch linked with a specialization in Urban Design. That way you can be both architect and urban designer/planner.I have always considered both as similar, as they're both dealing with built environment and cross paths once in a while , plus taking both will make a stronger profile for your resume.
NEITHER
I agree with citizen above. Urban design can be so interdisciplinary and allow you do to all kinds of different things while designing.
Hi Steven!
That is FANTASTIC! I'd never seen it before.
"Isn't an architect just an art school dropout with a tilty table and a big ruler?"
take an M.Arch linked with a specialization in Urban Design. That way you can be both architect and urban designer/planner.I have always considered both as similar, as they're both dealing with built environment and cross paths once in a while , plus taking both will make a stronger profile for your resume
http://www.ariantiss.com/%D9%8...
Looks like you like both, can't you somehow mix them?
We recently published a "Planner Profile" here at APA with Amit Price Patel, AICP, AIA, who is both a planner and an architect! You might find some value in his perspective. Best of luck to you!
https://planning.org/plannerpr...