More thinking about scientific subjects like: Math, Physics, Chemistry?
Should an architect have them? If so, how high a level of expertise should they have at their disposal? Basic? Intermediate? Expert?
thanks for an answer
Non Sequitur
Oct 13, 16 4:12 am
Business.
archiwutm8
Oct 13, 16 5:19 am
How to lick shoes.
archietechie
Oct 13, 16 6:41 am
There's a thread about this very same topic recently...search for it
Non Sequitur
Oct 13, 16 7:59 am
^ ability to do basic research is not a bad idea either.
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 9:29 am
Everything you need to know you learned in kindergarten. The rest is superfluous.
Non Sequitur
Oct 13, 16 9:39 am
^ I spent most of my kindergarten years stealing toys from the classrooms.
curtkram
Oct 13, 16 9:45 am
now it's spent stealing revit families?
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 9:47 am
That's supposed to say 10th grade. Everything you need to know you learned in 10th grade.
Non Sequitur
Oct 13, 16 9:49 am
all the revit families I need I stole in my first week on the project...
That's not true, I have technologists who steal for me. Ah, the times we live in.
chigurh
Oct 13, 16 12:23 pm
nuclear physics, thermodynamics, rocket science, molecular biology, differential equations, linear algebra, organic chemistry, astronomy. You should be able to solve the hardest geometry problem in the world.
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 1:01 pm
and you better know your medieval British literature...
3tk
Oct 13, 16 1:27 pm
Mostly the applied sciences - at least to mid level collegiate (200 to 300 level coursework) - best to be able to discuss with engineers, particularly for permit approvals.
Other subjects: enough to have conversation with clients on topics of interest to them (depends on client demographic, but ability to discuss art/literature/music at a college educated level has been a base standard in my experience). Law is another topic that is helpful to know to understand code and permits.
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 1:33 pm
You know the answer to solve all the problems of the physical world: griege (beige+gray). But do you know why?
chigurh
Oct 13, 16 1:49 pm
yes - I have extensive knowledge in colorimetry, electromagnetic radiation, and color theory, how else could an architect pick a color? One needs to know the inner workings of the eye and all of the hard sciences to even begin to select an appropriate color for a given application. Anything else would be purely amateur.
,,,,
Oct 13, 16 1:53 pm
The same as for any other educated individual.
At a minimum: general knowledge of the sciences and the humanities with deep knowledge of at least one or two subject areas.
my 2 cents
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 3:37 pm
Of course it isn't necessary, but I've taken several biology and psychology classes focused on sense and perception and I would definitely recommend them to any designer.
awaiting_deletion
Oct 13, 16 8:58 pm
beer
Wilma Buttfit
Oct 13, 16 11:26 pm
Olaf, why did you change your last and middle names?
awaiting_deletion
Oct 14, 16 7:03 am
philosophical reasons. philosophy is key to architecture. you could have mental problems otherwise. Plato and Deleuze for starters. I am killing the concept to rebuild it.
charlesarnot
Oct 14, 16 7:07 am
An architect need to have good knowledge in mathematics and physics rather than chemistry. But more than that, he or she need to be excellent in mechanics.
But Olaf, what about the business cards and all those hats and frisbee you already ordered?
awaiting_deletion
Oct 14, 16 8:25 am
NS. grabbed a laborer the other day wearing a Olaf Design Ninja Vuuve Challenge t-shirt, wrestled him to the ground, grabbed his carpenters knife and cut the Design Ninja out from his t-shirt. He wanted to the call the cops but I paid him off in beer.
learn a bit of everything, then acquire a great deal of common sense
geezertect
Mar 1, 18 7:00 am
Not necessarily in that order.
Volunteer
Mar 1, 18 7:54 am
Since the history, music, art, and architecture of each age have common threads running through them those are the subjects you need to study. Studying a language like French or Italian would not hurt either.
accesskb
Mar 1, 18 10:31 am
Just be good at problem solving simple things and working through it. Architecture ain't rocket science. Most things we do is pretty common sense if you think about it.
Peter Normand
Mar 1, 18 2:15 pm
Know some chemistry, alkalinity and how different metals react. Know how hydration occurs in cement. Know some biology regarding mold growth bacteria. Having some understanding of real-estate law and contract law is good. Understand how politics works at the local level (this is not always academic). Ethics is useful even if it is an aspiration. Know how to read and use the census and take a few demography classes, can be especially helpful if you design housing or retail.
Just some ideas, I think another key thing is to have knowledge and some interest/connections outside of architecture and construction because that is where you may find clients.
Over and OUT
Peter N
S W
Mar 1, 18 8:07 pm
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.”
Robert A. Heinlein
randomised
Mar 2, 18 10:44 am
Common sense, creativity and knowing when to call in an expert.
More thinking about scientific subjects like: Math, Physics, Chemistry?
Should an architect have them? If so, how high a level of expertise should they have at their disposal? Basic? Intermediate? Expert?
thanks for an answer
Business.
How to lick shoes.
There's a thread about this very same topic recently...search for it
^ ability to do basic research is not a bad idea either.
Everything you need to know you learned in kindergarten. The rest is superfluous.
^ I spent most of my kindergarten years stealing toys from the classrooms.
now it's spent stealing revit families?
That's supposed to say 10th grade. Everything you need to know you learned in 10th grade.
all the revit families I need I stole in my first week on the project...
That's not true, I have technologists who steal for me. Ah, the times we live in.
nuclear physics, thermodynamics, rocket science, molecular biology, differential equations, linear algebra, organic chemistry, astronomy. You should be able to solve the hardest geometry problem in the world.
and you better know your medieval British literature...
Mostly the applied sciences - at least to mid level collegiate (200 to 300 level coursework) - best to be able to discuss with engineers, particularly for permit approvals.
Other subjects: enough to have conversation with clients on topics of interest to them (depends on client demographic, but ability to discuss art/literature/music at a college educated level has been a base standard in my experience). Law is another topic that is helpful to know to understand code and permits.
You know the answer to solve all the problems of the physical world: griege (beige+gray). But do you know why?
yes - I have extensive knowledge in colorimetry, electromagnetic radiation, and color theory, how else could an architect pick a color? One needs to know the inner workings of the eye and all of the hard sciences to even begin to select an appropriate color for a given application. Anything else would be purely amateur.
The same as for any other educated individual.
At a minimum: general knowledge of the sciences and the humanities with deep knowledge of at least one or two subject areas.
my 2 cents
Of course it isn't necessary, but I've taken several biology and psychology classes focused on sense and perception and I would definitely recommend them to any designer.
beer
Olaf, why did you change your last and middle names?
philosophical reasons. philosophy is key to architecture. you could have mental problems otherwise. Plato and Deleuze for starters. I am killing the concept to rebuild it.
An architect need to have good knowledge in mathematics and physics rather than chemistry. But more than that, he or she need to be excellent in mechanics.
Charles
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learn a bit of everything, then acquire a great deal of common sense
Not necessarily in that order.
Since the history, music, art, and architecture of each age have common threads running through them those are the subjects you need to study. Studying a language like French or Italian would not hurt either.
Just be good at problem solving simple things and working through it. Architecture ain't rocket science. Most things we do is pretty common sense if you think about it.
Know some chemistry, alkalinity and how different metals react. Know how hydration occurs in cement. Know some biology regarding mold growth bacteria. Having some understanding of real-estate law and contract law is good. Understand how politics works at the local level (this is not always academic). Ethics is useful even if it is an aspiration. Know how to read and use the census and take a few demography classes, can be especially helpful if you design housing or retail.
Just some ideas, I think another key thing is to have knowledge and some interest/connections outside of architecture and construction because that is where you may find clients.
Over and OUT
Peter N
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.”
Robert A. Heinlein
Common sense, creativity and knowing when to call in an expert.