I know there is much overlap, especially with projects like Irwins Getty gardens, but whats the defining difference in your opinions. Where do you feel something like a memorial would fall? Why?
drums please, Fab?
Aug 17, 16 1:35 am
Memorials are never landscape architecture. NEVER!
and the difference is: if there's a lot of bullSHIT, concept, and intent(s) it's ahhhhrt ... if there is an irrigation plan anywhere it's landscape ahhhhhrchitecure.
archietechie
May 18, 17 5:23 pm
Maya Lin would like to have a word with you at the Vietnam Memorial.
Marc Miller
Aug 17, 16 4:46 pm
Personally, I've never been thrilled with the Getty, especially after seeing it in the winter. He designs for color and shapes, but forgets season- his parking lot at DIA Beacon is really mundane.
IMO Piet Oudolf is better at using landscape material (read: woody shrubs and trees) to craft spaces that are seasonally responsive and honest with respect to plant form.
And I'll add to the mix. Beuy's 7000 Oaks project(s)?
x-jla
May 18, 17 2:00 pm
Ill bump this since art vs architecture is a trending topic...
Kind of relevant to this topic. I think all of the entries are pretty bland attempts to score a 3mil project while not offending anyone or saying anything meaningful about the monument's purported raison d'etre. Neither art, nor architecture. Definitely something landscape. Going to re-read 'the expanded field' by R. Krauss tonight because of this comeptition + thread
x-jla
May 18, 17 8:45 pm
Id say any of those can be either art or architecture. Doesn't have to be good to qualify.
I'd say the heavy reliance on a plinth in all these projects disqualify them as forms of land art. These are sculptural objects with little to no connection to the site or place. I'm not suggesting that they have no merit, just that they are landscape engaged.
S W
May 18, 17 9:21 pm
That's an interesting competition, does soviet public art/realm (for instance) quantify the opposite?
S W
May 19, 17 12:13 am
An edit for clarity: my response was to threadkilla's link to the competition for victims of communism.
I know there is much overlap, especially with projects like Irwins Getty gardens, but whats the defining difference in your opinions. Where do you feel something like a memorial would fall? Why?
Memorials are never landscape architecture. NEVER!
and the difference is: if there's a lot of bullSHIT, concept, and intent(s) it's ahhhhrt ... if there is an irrigation plan anywhere it's landscape ahhhhhrchitecure.
Maya Lin would like to have a word with you at the Vietnam Memorial.
Personally, I've never been thrilled with the Getty, especially after seeing it in the winter. He designs for color and shapes, but forgets season- his parking lot at DIA Beacon is really mundane.
IMO Piet Oudolf is better at using landscape material (read: woody shrubs and trees) to craft spaces that are seasonally responsive and honest with respect to plant form.
And I'll add to the mix. Beuy's 7000 Oaks project(s)?
Ill bump this since art vs architecture is a trending topic...
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/ottawa/victims-of-communism-memorial-1.4119012
Kind of relevant to this topic. I think all of the entries are pretty bland attempts to score a 3mil project while not offending anyone or saying anything meaningful about the monument's purported raison d'etre. Neither art, nor architecture. Definitely something landscape. Going to re-read 'the expanded field' by R. Krauss tonight because of this comeptition + thread
Id say any of those can be either art or architecture. Doesn't have to be good to qualify.
Also consider reading Elizabeth Meyer's "Expanded Field of Landscape Architecture" and Karen Wilson Baptist's "Shades of Grey.
I'd say the heavy reliance on a plinth in all these projects disqualify them as forms of land art. These are sculptural objects with little to no connection to the site or place. I'm not suggesting that they have no merit, just that they are landscape engaged.
That's an interesting competition, does soviet public art/realm (for instance) quantify the opposite?
An edit for clarity: my response was to threadkilla's link to the competition for victims of communism.
To me that was clear, and a good question.