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UBC vs U of T (M.arch)

passerby1ce

At the risk of creating another annoying which school should I go to thread, I thought this might be worth a shot.

I've read the Canadian Schools thread but that discussion dealt with all the schools in Canada. Interested to know more specifics about these two schools.

I've heard a little about UBC but not too much about U of T.

What do you guys think U of T's M.arch offers better than UBC? Vice Versa.

What are the disadvantages of U of T's program? and UBC's?

My primary objective is to be able to be a working architect afterwards, not a starving artist. I realize every education is what you make of it etc..etc..But all things being equal which program would provide MORE opportunity to achieve this goal? with connections to the industry within the city and around the world? Which is more internationally well known for their program? And which would provide opportunities to take subjects outside architecture program to better prepare for the profession, like some business courses etc..

What type of person would benefit from an education from U of T? and from UBC?

With regards to design objectives, since I didn't come from an architecture background that's yet to be determined.

Any other insights into these programs greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 
Apr 10, 10 10:22 am
discordantsystem

Don't you only have until the 15th to send UBC a confirmation?

Apr 10, 10 2:55 pm  · 
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Bench
http://www.archsoc.com/kcas/researchschool5.html

UBC was ranked significantly higher than U of T in that school ranking. Other than that I dont really have any information.

Apr 10, 10 3:49 pm  · 
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barefoot

ubc

Apr 11, 10 3:36 am  · 
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bowling_ball

That archsoc website is laughable at best, just take a look around it for a while and you'll see what I mean.

I know this doesn't really help answer the question.

Apr 13, 10 1:27 am  · 
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passerby1ce

lol i kind of predicted it. Dustin, you're in U of M for arch, have you heard anything about these two schools from profs, being around architecture world? I'm in Winnipeg too by the way. Go Winterpeg!

Apr 13, 10 8:05 am  · 
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Bench

Hey Dustin, just wondering why the site is unreliable? (Sorry, Im not trying to come off as a dick or to challenge you, Im new here and Im just legitimately curious since I had thought previously that it was a good source)

Apr 13, 10 12:48 pm  · 
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IamGray

BenC, as Dustin mentions you really just need to read the criteria.

Well respected schools are entirely omitted for a variety of reasons; some of them reasonable (such as Universite de Laval, or UdeM for being French language institutions) while others are simply laughable (BAC or SCIARC failing to make the cut because they operate outside of the university system, or East London, WashU, and Parsons for being unable to 'indentify countable academics')

And that doesn't even begin to address the issue that the ammount of work published by faculty hardly correlates evenly to 'quality of education' (or even quality of research!).

Apr 13, 10 5:58 pm  · 
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st1tch

@passerby1ce,

where did you ultimately decide on going?

Apr 16, 10 2:56 pm  · 
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C-anad

I knew a woman with a really funny background goin to UofT! So, I believe that it's kinda easy to be accepted there. But, as Ive heard of UBC, it is not like that!

Apr 18, 10 4:39 pm  · 
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rankled

Many blogs and forums across the web make reference to the ranking of architecture schools posted on the Archsoc website on the assumption that this is an authoritative resource.

The ArchSoc website referenced above by BenC is run by disgruntled ex-academic Garry Stevens. His unprofessional comments are littered across the site. It has no credibility as a ranking of architecture schools. His solely quantitative criteria to rank the “Best Architecture Schools” is to count up the number of publications by academics that are held in libraries such as the RIBA. This is a limited and arbitrary measure that will tell a prospective student next to nothing about the quality of teaching and research in any particular school. The site is entirely unreliable as a guide and should be avoided.

Prospective students deciding which Architecture school to apply for should carefully investigate the research culture and teaching outcomes of any particular school they are interested in.

May 11, 10 12:17 am  · 
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