Has anyone failed a project that had a very good review? Everything was finished on time but I think the professor thinks I didn't spend enough time on it. It was certainly up to par with everyone else but I was the only one in the room who had a good review.
Well archinect, is probably not the place to get an answer for this. If you have an issue with your grade then talk to your professor. And if you don't agree with what he/she has to say then talk to someone above your professor.
If your professor closely followed your work habits over the semester, and s/he doesn't feel you applied yourself enough, then a good review might not push you into a good grade. On the other hand, a student who worked their butt off and overcame significant hurdles (in the work) but had a mediocre review might end up with a better grade.
Grading in studio is very subjective. Meeting presentation requirements is one thing, but coming up with a concept, for good reasons, and applying that concept in a way that works for the project AND forces you to expand your thinking is the goal of it all. Even if the result isn't a stellar project.
There's nothing wrong with asking the professor what his/her reasoning behind your grade is. That's the best way for you to learn anyway, rather than have people who don't know your work speculate!
Once in studio, I got a poor grade after what I thought was a good review. After I approached my professor about it, he said that it was because I could have done more between our last discussion and the final review. Sure, the work might have been good, but since I didn't push myself enough towards the end.
I say this to bolster what liberty bell has said. There can be any number of reasons why you didn't receive the grade. I'd suggest talking to your professor about it. Be calm, specific, and civil...and I'm sure that your professor will be more than happy to speak with you about it.
Grades in studio are a reflection of your entire semester's worth of attitude, rigor, work ethic, depth of critical thinking, depth of creative thinking, and drawing and model quality. A good review is great (although, it's worth noting that what you think may constitute a "good" review may not be what your professor thinks is a good review) but the review is not what you're graded on (thankfully, considering the jury sees your work for 15 minutes and your professor sees it all semester). The jury is almost (not entirely, but almost) more for your own benefit of seeing what other professionals think of your work, and hearing their discussion / thoughts, as well as to serve as a catalyst that forces you to really bring your ideas into sharp and concise focus, tighten up the project, and learn how to present it in a comprehensive and yet succinct manner (and by "present" I mean the whole package -- drawings, models, text, verbal presentation, color choice, diagrams, vignette sketches, etcetera). So, think of the jury as being there to help foster your own personal learning, whereas the total quality of your work over the whole semester is what you are graded by.
I’ve had friends that had awesome reviews but they were hardly there or didn’t produce much work. In short they were bullshitters but the good types. Like good lawyers. They could sell anything. but they lack the materials, the diagrams or models to back it up but used key words in their presentations to trigger a positive reaction to the crits. And it works. I was in the same position one semester. I thought I did well. I had lots of research to back my design, diagrams were awesome, positive feedback from peers, but failed the studio. I met with the instructor a number of times and didn’t have any beef with him. He directed me towards his style of architecture that I wasn’t really fond of but that’s fine. We didn’t see eye to eye but I didn’t care or cared less about what he thought….it’s just a grade in the end. Employers don’t look at gpa anyways. The graduate program doesn’t really think twice about it too. But if you want to do something, you can start slashing some tires.
Slashing tires....Done.
The reason I ask this is because this is an old second year project that, upon recently reviewing, I think would look great in my portfolio if it were brought up to graduate standards. Not sure if a failing project belongs there.
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Has anyone failed a project that had a very good review? Everything was finished on time but I think the professor thinks I didn't spend enough time on it. It was certainly up to par with everyone else but I was the only one in the room who had a good review.
Well archinect, is probably not the place to get an answer for this. If you have an issue with your grade then talk to your professor. And if you don't agree with what he/she has to say then talk to someone above your professor.
If your professor closely followed your work habits over the semester, and s/he doesn't feel you applied yourself enough, then a good review might not push you into a good grade. On the other hand, a student who worked their butt off and overcame significant hurdles (in the work) but had a mediocre review might end up with a better grade.
Grading in studio is very subjective. Meeting presentation requirements is one thing, but coming up with a concept, for good reasons, and applying that concept in a way that works for the project AND forces you to expand your thinking is the goal of it all. Even if the result isn't a stellar project.
There's nothing wrong with asking the professor what his/her reasoning behind your grade is. That's the best way for you to learn anyway, rather than have people who don't know your work speculate!
Once in studio, I got a poor grade after what I thought was a good review. After I approached my professor about it, he said that it was because I could have done more between our last discussion and the final review. Sure, the work might have been good, but since I didn't push myself enough towards the end.
I say this to bolster what liberty bell has said. There can be any number of reasons why you didn't receive the grade. I'd suggest talking to your professor about it. Be calm, specific, and civil...and I'm sure that your professor will be more than happy to speak with you about it.
Grades in studio are a reflection of your entire semester's worth of attitude, rigor, work ethic, depth of critical thinking, depth of creative thinking, and drawing and model quality. A good review is great (although, it's worth noting that what you think may constitute a "good" review may not be what your professor thinks is a good review) but the review is not what you're graded on (thankfully, considering the jury sees your work for 15 minutes and your professor sees it all semester). The jury is almost (not entirely, but almost) more for your own benefit of seeing what other professionals think of your work, and hearing their discussion / thoughts, as well as to serve as a catalyst that forces you to really bring your ideas into sharp and concise focus, tighten up the project, and learn how to present it in a comprehensive and yet succinct manner (and by "present" I mean the whole package -- drawings, models, text, verbal presentation, color choice, diagrams, vignette sketches, etcetera). So, think of the jury as being there to help foster your own personal learning, whereas the total quality of your work over the whole semester is what you are graded by.
I’ve had friends that had awesome reviews but they were hardly there or didn’t produce much work. In short they were bullshitters but the good types. Like good lawyers. They could sell anything. but they lack the materials, the diagrams or models to back it up but used key words in their presentations to trigger a positive reaction to the crits. And it works. I was in the same position one semester. I thought I did well. I had lots of research to back my design, diagrams were awesome, positive feedback from peers, but failed the studio. I met with the instructor a number of times and didn’t have any beef with him. He directed me towards his style of architecture that I wasn’t really fond of but that’s fine. We didn’t see eye to eye but I didn’t care or cared less about what he thought….it’s just a grade in the end. Employers don’t look at gpa anyways. The graduate program doesn’t really think twice about it too. But if you want to do something, you can start slashing some tires.
Slashing tires....Done.
The reason I ask this is because this is an old second year project that, upon recently reviewing, I think would look great in my portfolio if it were brought up to graduate standards. Not sure if a failing project belongs there.
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