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bentropy

hi everyone

i am designing a staircase and would like the landing to "float", like the staircase at the "Stadthaus Scharnhauser Park
und Marktplatz" by jurgen mayer.


http://www.jmayerh.de/home.htm

picture #4....

any other examples? we will likely engineer it ourselves, but just looking for inspiration right now

thanks y'all! (and its friday, woohoo!!)

 
Jul 11, 08 1:22 pm
xtbl
Jul 11, 08 1:31 pm
holz.box

tom kundig. chicken point cabin

Jul 11, 08 1:36 pm
phuyaké

damn holz... beat me to it, tried to find a view from the kitchen out, really gives the "floating" feel.

also, zumthor's shelter for the roman ruins:

Jul 11, 08 1:44 pm
vado retro

sorry to be a buzzkill but if you're in the states that stair doesn't meet code.

Jul 11, 08 1:53 pm
bentropy

really vado? what part does it not meet? and thanks for posting everyone! that zumthor one is great

Jul 11, 08 2:43 pm
phuyaké

two more

from the recent news article, MVRDV's Didden Village



Blencowe-Levine's Battersea House

Jul 11, 08 3:28 pm
vado retro

section 1012 and 1013 of the ibc for starters.

Jul 11, 08 4:09 pm
holz.box

oooh, nice call on the zumthor. damn, its easy to forget that one...

several detail issues focus on stairs... could make a nice book out of them all, actually...





carlos ferrater's office




aix, scara domkyrka (cathedral)


becker architekten

Jul 11, 08 4:21 pm
holz.box

don't houses fall under IRC?

Jul 11, 08 4:26 pm
won and done williams


gm tech center

Jul 11, 08 5:16 pm
Apurimac

A good stair can seriously make or break a project

Jul 11, 08 5:20 pm
won and done williams

toshiko mori

Jul 11, 08 5:21 pm
won and done williams

siza

Jul 11, 08 5:24 pm
won and done williams

more siza

Jul 11, 08 5:25 pm
fulcrum

Mini House by Hiroaki Ohtani

Jul 11, 08 5:55 pm
Emilio

the last three stairs are knockout beautiful...but if you slip walking on them you better pray you fall on the wall side.

Jul 11, 08 6:03 pm
Atom

Really nice posts! I would like to know the specific application you are asking about. Is it for single family residential?

Jul 11, 08 11:44 pm
curtkram

I recently helped design this one. Might not be quite as dramatic, but I like it and it meets code...

Jul 12, 08 10:27 am
knock

hmm ... correct me if I'm wrong but most of these are not really floating landings per say ... lots of beautiful floating stairs though.

Jul 12, 08 6:21 pm
Medit

UN Studio, Villa NM (now destroyed by a fire I think)





Jul 13, 08 7:26 am
bentropy

the stair would be in a restaurant, high traffic, high exposure...

Jul 14, 08 2:11 pm
phuyaké

mvrdv's gemini residence sort of has floating/cantilevered landings as well

Jul 14, 08 3:31 pm
holz.box

to revive...

some niemeyer goodness...




and lewerentz...

















Jul 16, 08 4:09 pm
holz.box
Jul 16, 08 5:13 pm
holz.box

and a touch more cos i'm needing a break...




















Jul 17, 08 12:52 am
holz.box


















Jul 17, 08 3:12 am
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Jul 17, 08 3:32 am
Medit

er.. where's the 'floating staircase landing' in that pic of the workers of the Empire St Building?

Jul 17, 08 5:33 am
Medit

someone change this thread's title to "Extensive collection of cool pics of floating stairs" instead... Holz, you're the definitive architectural-photo-junkie

Jul 17, 08 5:38 am

i think some of these would give me motion sickness...and i don't usually get motion sickness. the first one at 7/16, 21:52 especially.

Jul 17, 08 7:49 am
Synergy

Steven, I agree, also some of the look especially dangerous. None the less I think this a really great collection you guys have put together. Good job. Special Nod to Holz.

Jul 17, 08 2:34 pm
holz.box

i think danger is what makes it look more interesting... actually, i'm really into the minimal (almost nothing) aesthetic.

but i ascribe to the theory that if you make it look more dangerous, people will be more cautious...

or they'll just run into the 100mm steel tread and gouge their eye out :)

Jul 17, 08 3:53 pm
holz.box

and i posted the charles ebbets foto of the construction workers eating lunch because i wanted to emphasize the floating nature of the conversation, what constitutes floating? is it a visual lightness? separation? does the suspended stair seem to float more than a cantilevered stair?

and i think it's a great photo...

Jul 17, 08 3:54 pm
ether

holz, - 07/17/08 0:32 fourth picture (brick staircase). what is it?

Jul 18, 08 1:20 pm
Emilio

yea, all those open-on-one-side-with-no-railing stairs give me the willies (as i've stated above)

"i think danger is what makes it look more interesting..."

holz, i struggle with this too, cause i like the purity of those stairs, but do you really want to use danger as a design approach? (maybe the aswer is yes, i'm just asking)

Jul 18, 08 2:03 pm
phuyaké

ether, that's Eladio Dieste's Cristo Obrero Church

Jul 18, 08 2:38 pm
ether

thanks phuyake!

Jul 18, 08 2:48 pm
liberty bell

holz, you wear me out!

I'm not a fan of structural trickery and things floating, but there is some drop-dead gorgeous detailing in some of those images!

The first one at 21:52, the bent metal plates, is a nice twist.

Jul 18, 08 2:54 pm
Apurimac

Gorgeous stuff holz.

Jul 18, 08 3:12 pm
holz.box

a little danger doesn't bother me.

if the client is ok with taking on the added risk for a purer aesthetic, that's awesome.

sometimes a bit of a fright can be quite healthy and invigorating (unless you are over 40 or have heart issues)

speaking of structural trickery...
i found this diagram of the structure (hidden) for the jordi vayreda stair... (which i'll repost since it's so awesome)


Jul 18, 08 4:55 pm
fays.panda

eva jiricna is well known for her stairs, very well detailed

http://www.ejal.com/

Jul 18, 08 5:00 pm
idiotwind

this is a beautiful thread. so many great ideas.

Sep 19, 08 12:35 am

I wonder how many of these stairs are legal in your respective countries

Sep 19, 08 8:39 am
farwest1

I know that many or most of these examples are from outside of the US.

You can't really build stairs like this in the US, can you? with the rules regarding no more than 4" gaps in the guardrails, and no more than 4" gaps in the rises of the treads.

Oct 30, 08 12:33 pm
strlt_typ
addendum:
"As an architecture discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving building codes approaches one."

Oct 30, 08 12:57 pm
holz.box

ok...

those that are done in the states, how is that accomplished?

are crappy stairs installed, then after CO, replaced w/ the nice, clean and non-conforming stair?

Oct 30, 08 1:17 pm

the stairs in my boss's new house ain't too bad either


Oct 30, 08 1:25 pm

is it me or is that ridiculously steep?

Oct 30, 08 2:17 pm

techno, my boss is dutch...he has designed/used alot worse

Oct 30, 08 2:29 pm
usernametaken

P2an, are you working for "claus" or for "kaan"?

Oct 30, 08 2:59 pm

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