I passed the AREin 1998 but it didn't meet the NCARB requirements to transfer to my home state (NM) from Hawaii - a whole career in Architecture using architects-of-record (my licensed associates) - Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) Master of Architecture | Online offers this program - has anyone completed this RIT program or one like it? - I live in NM with home responsibilities (woman & many dogs) so I can't attend a traditional program - thank you ...
There are a number of options and they vary from requiring periodic on-campus "intensive" charrette like session to ones that can be done almost if not entirely online.
Check out Academy of Arts University's online M.Arch as an option. There are other online or some sort of hybrid distance learning based M.Arch. You can google search those and check if they are NAAB accredited (which you'll want to check). Some feedback from those who completed such degrees would be good info. I think any online degree program requires a person who is more self-disciplined and self-driven because you aren't going to necessarily get the in person support.
RB - thank you - I will look into this school - I am the definition of "self-disciplined and self-driven", but it's always nice to write your own reviews ...
That’s not an NAAB-accredited program, so is unlikely to meet some states’ education requirements. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re trying to accomplish: what exactly is it that NM says you’re lacking?
Dec 28, 24 10:45 pm ·
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Brightbury
It seems like you’d need to select a different track than the one you linked to, as that one specifically notes it’s not NAAB-accredited.
Dec 28, 24 10:47 pm ·
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BluecornGroup
Bright - you are right - the website says NAAB accredited, whatever that is - if a college masters program isn't NCARB accredited it is basically worthless, at least in NM ...
The Academy of Arts University M.Arch is NAAB accredited including online. NAAB accredited is the required accreditation for it to be deemed an accredited architecture degree recognized by architecture licensing boards.
NCARB doesn't accredit programs. NCARB is not an accreditation body. That is the role of the NAAB (National Architecture Accreditation Board). There is no such thing as NCARB accredited.
NOTE: M.Arch 1 & M.Arch 2 and M.Arch - IPAL and the B.Arch are NAAB accredited. MA-ARH programs are basically post-professional degrees like any 1 year Masters degree in Architecture post B.Arch. The accredited M.Arch are for those who either have a non-accredited bachelors degree in architecture or a non-architecture degree.
Dec 29, 24 7:52 am ·
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BluecornGroup
I went to the list of NAAB accredited schools and UNM is not on that list - there are many Mountain states that aren't - I do believe that NCARB sanctions arch. schools in some fashion - do you know when a masters degree was required to get licensed? - some engineering fields were looking to require an advanced degree but thankfully shot it down - I believe architects should never have been required to have an advanced degree to practice their trade ...
online M.Arch at AAU is NAAB accredited. I don't know where you see it is not. M.Arch's that are not NAAB accredited is not permitted to be referred to as M.Arch in U.S. schools. Are you referring to the RIT program from Rochester? Only 2 year and 3+ year M.Arch's are NAAB accredited. NAAB requires universities that runs NAAB accredited programs that have masters degrees in architecture that is 1 year and for those who already have an NAAB accredited B.Arch degree to label those masters degrees distinctive so they are not confusing and misleading. NAAB had started doing that over the past 10 or so years.
NS, Bluecorn is in NM. He has to meet his own state's requirements for licensure if he wants to practice in his state. It may be important to him for personal reasons.
In general, an M.Arch is not required to get licensed. An NAAB accredited degree that is either a B.Arch (5 year) program or an M.Arch (2 or 3+ year) programs. The 2 year M.Arch is generally for those with a 4 year BA/BS degree (4 year) in Architecture that needs to go two more years in the M.Arch to get an NAAB accredited degree. Usually, you don't go from BA/BS in Architecture to B.Arch once the degree is conferred. NAAB accreditation is key for the degree to be most widely accepted throughout the states. Bluecorn, I was namely suggesting M.Arch in your case assuming you already have some sort of bachelors degree in something. AAU has both B.Arch and M.Arch options that is NAAB accredited. AAU has online delivery so you have option to pursue if you so choose. Otherwise, on-campus degrees, you have to find in your state. This can be inconvenient if you have to drive some distance.
NS, Consider where Bluecorn is. Licensing in New Mexico matters to him because he doesn't plan to move to another state. So lets consider helpful solutions if we can, okay?
Dec 29, 24 4:50 pm ·
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Non Sequitur
I'm aware RB. Just can't remember NM ever being discussed in any forums in the past. Not under education, not under pro-practice, nothing.
Dec 29, 24 5:49 pm ·
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bowling_ball
BG, generally most people don't love it when a know-nothing comes to a forum and tells everybody how to do their jobs, and then asks basic-ass questions that a 10 year old child answer.
You'd probably gain some goodwill if you either toned down your crappy attitude, and/or just lurked here for a few months to learn how to interact with other human beings. Either that, or just go away already, you're exhausting.
I was tailoring my response to the original poster of THIS thread. We know other people it may serve be different advice as it relates to them. As to BB's response above, I agree but didn't want to go down the being an asshole mode of response but that is a fair response to BluecornGroup if you look at the broader context of the user. I'm just taking a civil approach to my response at hand.
UNM is NAAB accredited and is a good architecture school in ABQ. There is a lot of great architecture in New Mexico from centuries old to current. Why is it said that NM is not relevant? I don't know what nonseq means.
Dec 29, 24 9:09 pm ·
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Non Sequitur
Because BG is asking basic questions assuming NM is the centre of the arch world. See BB's reply above.
Dec 29, 24 9:44 pm ·
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BluecornGroup
NS - I never ask anything of you - my question simply was had anyone got their Masters in Architecture online - if you want to see architecture tied to centuries old vibrant living cultures visit Santa Fe, Taos and Taos Pueblo, Chaco Canyon, Las Alamos, Acoma Pueblo (Sky City) - sorry we aren't the white guys center of architecture - this is something you will never understand - also I checked the NAAB list and there are no NM or CO universities listed - feel free to do this yourself ...
Dec 29, 24 11:41 pm ·
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BluecornGroup
BB - where have I ever told anyone how to do their job? - this is an open Archinect forum where anyone can say their piece - right? ...
Dec 30, 24 12:15 am ·
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bowling_ball
You're absolutely welcome to say whatever you'd like. As I tried to explain, you've come across as a know-it-all while on the other hand asking questions that betray your apparent experience level.
Dec 30, 24 7:52 pm ·
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bowling_ball
The question is idiotic because it asks for a recommendation for an online program - what relevance is NM at that point?
Dec 30, 24 7:53 pm ·
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BluecornGroup
"Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) Master of Architecture | Online offers this program - has anyone completed this RIT program or one like it?" - that was my question - I never ask for a recommendation - NM is relevant to me because it is my home State and this is where I would like to be licensed - why is this an idiotic question? - please explain that to me ...
Dec 31, 24 12:23 am ·
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BluecornGroup
I think you are just a Russian troll trying to destroy the American practice of architecture as we know it ...
Dec 31, 24 12:41 am ·
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Non Sequitur
BB is a dirty Canadian communist. Anyways, why spend all these years as a pretend architect without knowing the rules of your backyard? Seems pretty lazy.
Dec 31, 24 8:33 am ·
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BluecornGroup
NS - Again, why won't you explain to me why my question is "idiotic"? - is it because you can't? - I am not a "pretend" anything - I will gladly match wits with you any day - Happy New Year ...
Dec 31, 24 10:03 am ·
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Non Sequitur
You won’t. Remember, steel is fireproof? Come on now.
Dec 31, 24 10:25 am ·
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BluecornGroup
Steel is fireproof - it will however soften or melt without fireproofing encapsulation to preserve its inherent structural strength ...
Dec 31, 24 11:57 am ·
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BluecornGroup
when was the last time you tried to light a piece of steel on fire? ...
Dec 31, 24 12:22 pm ·
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bowling_ball
It is not fireproof - but it can be non-combustible, which is what you two are arguing without using the proper definitions/descriptors....
perhaps hour fire-rated assemblies per building codes - six of one, half dozen of the other - who really cares? ...
Dec 31, 24 1:23 pm ·
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BluecornGroup
BB - you are correct - Definitions of fireproof. adjective. impervious to damage by fire. incombustible, noncombustible. not capable of igniting and burning - I stand corrected ...
Nothing is impervious. That key part "-proof" doesn't exist in the real world. Only exists in imagination. Everything is some level of "resistance". The word fireproof and like words should stop being used and be dropped from the english language.
I believe Lawrence Technological University in Southfield Michigan has an online accredited masters degree that requires you to be there for a grand total of one week.
Let me clarify information about the online AAU's (Academy of Art University) MArch program. It is NAAB accredited. This pioneering online program was established more than 15 years ago and has made great strides to establish one of the top online schools anywhere. The quality of work and level of competency from graduates rivals top traditional programs nationally. Students study asynchronously however, have options to meet weekly in group or one on one sessions with committed faculty members via Zoom.
Recent student/ design studio highlights include:
-Invitation to exhibit sustainable projects at the AIA Center for Architecture + Design, San Francisco
-Thesis student wins AIA East Bay Award for unbuilt student work
-Graduate studio invited to the 2023 4th Annual Seoul Biennale of Architecture + Urbanism Global Studios exhibition and publication
-Thesis student wins 2024 studio award through the Texas Architectural foundation for a community design proposal in Uvalde, Texas.
Keep in mind, like most programs there is a range of dedication from students and demands a very high level of commitment.
online college requires more dedication and self-discipline and commitment to do the work than you might have in an in-person college setting. You need general supporting conditions with family because your classroom is in many respects may be your home. You need a place to do this without distractions competing for attention. Family tends to try to demand your attention because subconsciously, they get jealous of the attention not being on them. If that happens, that can be a challenge. That is important with online learning.
Dec 30, 24 4:43 am ·
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natematt
Not sure if this really matters, but on the surface I'm always a bit skeptical of for-profit schools.
For profit colleges are not necessarily diploma mills as the colloquial implies. In order for architecture school degree programs to be accredited, NAAB requires the institution to be accredited. AAU --> https://www.academyart.edu/about-us/accreditation/
The school's institutional accreditation is WSCUC. This means the tuition is accredited and potentially transferable. This is important to consider as you can use grants and student loans (especially federal) to help finance the classes and also means the degree would be worth the paper it is written on from a licensing point of view being both NAAB accredited architecture degree and also institutionally accredited. It is not one of those "Trump University" diploma mills. This is why the notion and unreasonable prejudice against the program because it is a for-profit organization is unfounded when it is insinuated as not accredited.
Quality of the program can be and should be evaluated on its own merits so do that analysis, first. I am not suggesting BG go to that school. It should be an option on a list of possible schools from which he can evaluate and decide from to meet his goal.
Don't call something a diploma mill because that term is colloquial to referring to UNACCREDITED educational institution. That term has judicial and legal meaning in case law. It is not for accredited colleges & universities. Privately owned colleges in United States are legal to be established as long as they are accredited they can legally confer degrees. Diploma mills refers to fraudulent so called colleges or schools that don't have accreditation and legally can not confer degrees and the credits are not transferable at all and you can't get financial aid or student loans from FAFSA for those fake colleges. In other words, they are fraudulent educational institution. By calling Academy of Arts University a diploma mill, you are calling the college a fraudulent criminal organization ripping people off of money.
You better stop with that before they send lawyers to sue you for defamation of character.... forget if that is slander or libel. I'm suggesting back off on that tone before you step your butt into a legal situation that can cost you a fortune. Calling that college a diploma mill is tantamount to calling them criminal organization engaged in massive fraud. That is what you are saying by using the words "diploma mill".
All the Ivy League colleges are private colleges. So are you calling all of them criminal organizations? Free speech goes only so far but that is not a blatant right to commit defamation of character (slander / libel). You can have other fair or legitimate gripes. Maybe you might think they cost too much for what they offer. That's fine. That's an opinion.
Do you want to have a Rudy Giuliani fate? You're not financially deep pocket like Fox News. They don't need to sue for hundreds of millions of dollars to put you in financial ruins for decades. Change the tone on that, okay... before you push it to far.
Dec 31, 24 10:42 am ·
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Non Sequitur
Cash for degree is a mill. Yes, your elite schools are in the same bunch. USA USA! Give us 100k for a shiny arts degree! USA!
NS, WTF is your malfunction? There's no getting everything free in this world. This isn't star trek. You can't get full blown architecture degree for free... ANYWHERE. Instructors at any college isn't working for nothing. We don't do slavery, man. That was outlawed in the U.S. a long time ago. Canada requires a masters degree in order to become licensed architect. That's not free. Sure the hell wouldn't be for us foreigners south of the border. You know... international student tuition rate. FFS, if you aren't even interested in even attempting to provide any useful information to the OP, why post comments/replies? There's no such thing a free college education for four years of undergraduate studies and any masters/doctorate level college. That's fantasy. No country makes college as free as K-12. Even that comes at a cost that is paid for from somewhere whether that be from sales tax, income tax, property taxes, etc. It's not entirely free.
I knew we were the center of something - easiest commission an "artist" ever made - I have walked through it many times - it has a metal grate in the center over the leg that goes down the same depth as the one that goes up - saw President Clinton about 200 feet from there - thank you Orhan for researching this - I didn't know its title - Happy New Year my friend - I worked in Phoenix and have been to ASU's School of Architecture many times - their AIA was extremely active with many training events in the coolest of buildings located Downtown Phoenix ...
Online M. Arch. Programs
I passed the ARE in 1998 but it didn't meet the NCARB requirements to transfer to my home state (NM) from Hawaii - a whole career in Architecture using architects-of-record (my licensed associates) - Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) Master of Architecture | Online offers this program - has anyone completed this RIT program or one like it? - I live in NM with home responsibilities (woman & many dogs) so I can't attend a traditional program - thank you ...
There are a number of options and they vary from requiring periodic on-campus "intensive" charrette like session to ones that can be done almost if not entirely online.
Check out Academy of Arts University's online M.Arch as an option. There are other online or some sort of hybrid distance learning based M.Arch. You can google search those and check if they are NAAB accredited (which you'll want to check). Some feedback from those who completed such degrees would be good info. I think any online degree program requires a person who is more self-disciplined and self-driven because you aren't going to necessarily get the in person support.
RB - thank you - I will look into this school - I am the definition of "self-disciplined and self-driven", but it's always nice to write your own reviews ...
Looks very promising - here's the link for anyone interested in this CA program - https://www.academyart.edu/art-degree/architecture-m-arch-2/
That’s not an NAAB-accredited program, so is unlikely to meet some states’ education requirements. Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re trying to accomplish: what exactly is it that NM says you’re lacking?
It seems like you’d need to select a different track than the one you linked to, as that one specifically notes it’s not NAAB-accredited.
Bright - you are right - the website says NAAB accredited, whatever that is - if a college masters program isn't NCARB accredited it is basically worthless, at least in NM ...
The Academy of Arts University M.Arch is NAAB accredited including online. NAAB accredited is the required accreditation for it to be deemed an accredited architecture degree recognized by architecture licensing boards.
NCARB doesn't accredit programs. NCARB is not an accreditation body. That is the role of the NAAB (National Architecture Accreditation Board). There is no such thing as NCARB accredited.
NOTE: M.Arch 1 & M.Arch 2 and M.Arch - IPAL and the B.Arch are NAAB accredited. MA-ARH programs are basically post-professional degrees like any 1 year Masters degree in Architecture post B.Arch. The accredited M.Arch are for those who either have a non-accredited bachelors degree in architecture or a non-architecture degree.
I went to the list of NAAB accredited schools and UNM is not on that list - there are many Mountain states that aren't - I do believe that NCARB sanctions arch. schools in some fashion - do you know when a masters degree was required to get licensed? - some engineering fields were looking to require an advanced degree but thankfully shot it down - I believe architects should never have been required to have an advanced degree to practice their trade ...
Since when is New Mexico important?
Balkins my point was just that the specific track to which the OP posted the link states that it’s not NAAB accredited.
online M.Arch at AAU is NAAB accredited. I don't know where you see it is not. M.Arch's that are not NAAB accredited is not permitted to be referred to as M.Arch in U.S. schools. Are you referring to the RIT program from Rochester? Only 2 year and 3+ year M.Arch's are NAAB accredited. NAAB requires universities that runs NAAB accredited programs that have masters degrees in architecture that is 1 year and for those who already have an NAAB accredited B.Arch degree to label those masters degrees distinctive so they are not confusing and misleading. NAAB had started doing that over the past 10 or so years.
NS, Bluecorn is in NM. He has to meet his own state's requirements for licensure if he wants to practice in his state. It may be important to him for personal reasons.
In general, an M.Arch is not required to get licensed. An NAAB accredited degree that is either a B.Arch (5 year) program or an M.Arch (2 or 3+ year) programs. The 2 year M.Arch is generally for those with a 4 year BA/BS degree (4 year) in Architecture that needs to go two more years in the M.Arch to get an NAAB accredited degree. Usually, you don't go from BA/BS in Architecture to B.Arch once the degree is conferred. NAAB accreditation is key for the degree to be most widely accepted throughout the states. Bluecorn, I was namely suggesting M.Arch in your case assuming you already have some sort of bachelors degree in something. AAU has both B.Arch and M.Arch options that is NAAB accredited. AAU has online delivery so you have option to pursue if you so choose. Otherwise, on-campus degrees, you have to find in your state. This can be inconvenient if you have to drive some distance.
Non Sequitur - what the hell is your problem? - you seem very unhappy for some reason ...
Why do you keep assuming New Mexico is relevant?
NS, Consider where Bluecorn is. Licensing in New Mexico matters to him because he doesn't plan to move to another state. So lets consider helpful solutions if we can, okay?
I'm aware RB. Just can't remember NM ever being discussed in any forums in the past. Not under education, not under pro-practice, nothing.
BG, generally most people don't love it when a know-nothing comes to a forum and tells everybody how to do their jobs, and then asks basic-ass questions that a 10 year old child answer.
You'd probably gain some goodwill if you either toned down your crappy attitude, and/or just lurked here for a few months to learn how to interact with other human beings. Either that, or just go away already, you're exhausting.
I was tailoring my response to the original poster of THIS thread. We know other people it may serve be different advice as it relates to them. As to BB's response above, I agree but didn't want to go down the being an asshole mode of response but that is a fair response to BluecornGroup if you look at the broader context of the user. I'm just taking a civil approach to my response at hand.
UNM is NAAB accredited and is a good architecture school in ABQ. There is a lot of great architecture in New Mexico from centuries old to current. Why is it said that NM is not relevant? I don't know what nonseq means.
Because BG is asking basic questions assuming NM is the centre of the arch world. See BB's reply above.
NS - I never ask anything of you - my question simply was had anyone got their Masters in Architecture online - if you want to see architecture tied to centuries old vibrant living cultures visit Santa Fe, Taos and Taos Pueblo, Chaco Canyon, Las Alamos, Acoma Pueblo (Sky City) - sorry we aren't the white guys center of architecture - this is something you will never understand - also I checked the NAAB list and there are no NM or CO universities listed - feel free to do this yourself ...
BB - where have I ever told anyone how to do their job? - this is an open Archinect forum where anyone can say their piece - right? ...
You're absolutely welcome to say whatever you'd like. As I tried to explain, you've come across as a know-it-all while on the other hand asking questions that betray your apparent experience level.
The question is idiotic because it asks for a recommendation for an online program - what relevance is NM at that point?
"Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT) Master of Architecture | Online offers this program - has anyone completed this RIT program or one like it?" - that was my question - I never ask for a recommendation - NM is relevant to me because it is my home State and this is where I would like to be licensed - why is this an idiotic question? - please explain that to me ...
I think you are just a Russian troll trying to destroy the American practice of architecture as we know it ...
BB is a dirty Canadian communist. Anyways, why spend all these years as a pretend architect without knowing the rules of your backyard? Seems pretty lazy.
NS - Again, why won't you explain to me why my question is "idiotic"? - is it because you can't? - I am not a "pretend" anything - I will gladly match wits with you any day - Happy New Year ...
You won’t. Remember, steel is fireproof? Come on now.
Steel is fireproof - it will however soften or melt without fireproofing encapsulation to preserve its inherent structural strength ...
when was the last time you tried to light a piece of steel on fire? ...
It is not fireproof - but it can be non-combustible, which is what you two are arguing without using the proper definitions/descriptors....
perhaps hour fire-rated assemblies per building codes - six of one, half dozen of the other - who really cares? ...
BB - you are correct - Definitions of fireproof. adjective. impervious to damage by fire. incombustible, noncombustible. not capable of igniting and burning - I stand corrected ...
Nothing is impervious. That key part "-proof" doesn't exist in the real world. Only exists in imagination. Everything is some level of "resistance". The word fireproof and like words should stop being used and be dropped from the english language.
I believe Lawrence Technological University in Southfield Michigan has an online accredited masters degree that requires you to be there for a grand total of one week.
thank you ...
I was going to mention them. A friend just graduated from that program and thought it was good. A professional acquaintance is an associate professor there. I've looked into it myself as a result. https://onlinedegrees.ltu.edu/colleges/college-of-architecture-and-design/
Thank you - Happy New Year ...
Let me clarify information about the online AAU's (Academy of Art University) MArch program. It is NAAB accredited. This pioneering online program was established more than 15 years ago and has made great strides to establish one of the top online schools anywhere. The quality of work and level of competency from graduates rivals top traditional programs nationally. Students study asynchronously however, have options to meet weekly in group or one on one sessions with committed faculty members via Zoom.
Recent student/ design studio highlights include:
-Invitation to exhibit sustainable projects at the AIA Center for Architecture + Design, San Francisco
-Thesis student wins AIA East Bay Award for unbuilt student work
-Graduate studio invited to the 2023 4th Annual Seoul Biennale of Architecture + Urbanism Global Studios exhibition and publication
-Thesis student wins 2024 studio award through the Texas Architectural foundation for a community design proposal in Uvalde, Texas.
Keep in mind, like most programs there is a range of dedication from students and demands a very high level of commitment.
See more at https://architecture.academyar...
online college requires more dedication and self-discipline and commitment to do the work than you might have in an in-person college setting. You need general supporting conditions with family because your classroom is in many respects may be your home. You need a place to do this without distractions competing for attention. Family tends to try to demand your attention because subconsciously, they get jealous of the attention not being on them. If that happens, that can be a challenge. That is important with online learning.
Not sure if this really matters, but on the surface I'm always a bit skeptical of for-profit schools.
Say no to for profit schools. Nothing but diploma mills regardless of the marketing
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Agreed - thank you ...
For profit colleges are not necessarily diploma mills as the colloquial implies. In order for architecture school degree programs to be accredited, NAAB requires the institution to be accredited. AAU --> https://www.academyart.edu/about-us/accreditation/
The school's institutional accreditation is WSCUC. This means the tuition is accredited and potentially transferable. This is important to consider as you can use grants and student loans (especially federal) to help finance the classes and also means the degree would be worth the paper it is written on from a licensing point of view being both NAAB accredited architecture degree and also institutionally accredited. It is not one of those "Trump University" diploma mills. This is why the notion and unreasonable prejudice against the program because it is a for-profit organization is unfounded when it is insinuated as not accredited.
Quality of the program can be and should be evaluated on its own merits so do that analysis, first. I am not suggesting BG go to that school. It should be an option on a list of possible schools from which he can evaluate and decide from to meet his goal.
Ricky, they all are.
Don't call something a diploma mill because that term is colloquial to referring to UNACCREDITED educational institution. That term has judicial and legal meaning in case law. It is not for accredited colleges & universities. Privately owned colleges in United States are legal to be established as long as they are accredited they can legally confer degrees. Diploma mills refers to fraudulent so called colleges or schools that don't have accreditation and legally can not confer degrees and the credits are not transferable at all and you can't get financial aid or student loans from FAFSA for those fake colleges. In other words, they are fraudulent educational institution. By calling Academy of Arts University a diploma mill, you are calling the college a fraudulent criminal organization ripping people off of money.
You better stop with that before they send lawyers to sue you for defamation of character.... forget if that is slander or libel. I'm suggesting back off on that tone before you step your butt into a legal situation that can cost you a fortune. Calling that college a diploma mill is tantamount to calling them criminal organization engaged in massive fraud. That is what you are saying by using the words "diploma mill".
All the Ivy League colleges are private colleges. So are you calling all of them criminal organizations? Free speech goes only so far but that is not a blatant right to commit defamation of character (slander / libel). You can have other fair or legitimate gripes. Maybe you might think they cost too much for what they offer. That's fine. That's an opinion.
Do you want to have a Rudy Giuliani fate? You're not financially deep pocket like Fox News. They don't need to sue for hundreds of millions of dollars to put you in financial ruins for decades. Change the tone on that, okay... before you push it to far.
Cash for degree is a mill. Yes, your elite schools are in the same bunch. USA USA! Give us 100k for a shiny arts degree! USA!
NS, WTF is your malfunction? There's no getting everything free in this world. This isn't star trek. You can't get full blown architecture degree for free... ANYWHERE. Instructors at any college isn't working for nothing. We don't do slavery, man. That was outlawed in the U.S. a long time ago. Canada requires a masters degree in order to become licensed architect. That's not free. Sure the hell wouldn't be for us foreigners south of the border. You know... international student tuition rate. FFS, if you aren't even interested in even attempting to provide any useful information to the OP, why post comments/replies? There's no such thing a free college education for four years of undergraduate studies and any masters/doctorate level college. That's fantasy. No country makes college as free as K-12. Even that comes at a cost that is paid for from somewhere whether that be from sales tax, income tax, property taxes, etc. It's not entirely free.
Non Sequitur- "Because BG is asking basic questions assuming NM is the centre of the arch world."
There is a sculpture by Bruce Nauman on the UNM campus called Center of the Universe!
Haha, happy new year!
*ASU has a very good online program.
I knew we were the center of something - easiest commission an "artist" ever made - I have walked through it many times - it has a metal grate in the center over the leg that goes down the same depth as the one that goes up - saw President Clinton about 200 feet from there - thank you Orhan for researching this - I didn't know its title - Happy New Year my friend - I worked in Phoenix and have been to ASU's School of Architecture many times - their AIA was extremely active with many training events in the coolest of buildings located Downtown Phoenix ...
Well Boston is the Hub of the Universe so they'll just have to fight it out. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2017-08-30/from-beantown-to-the-hub-how-did-boston-earn-its-nicknames
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