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HKU vs UCL decision

anonymous11111

Hi everyone! I know there’s a lot of these on right now, but I’m writing this post to ask for advice that anyone might have in helping me pick out a school for undergrad (-ish?)

I have the option to pick between HKU (which I would attend as a local student) and the Bartlett. The biggest difference between them is that I would be getting my bachelors at HKU, whilst the course I’ve been accepted for  at UCL is their new five years integrated masters degree (MSci) with a year in placement.

To me the MSci seems much more beneficial, it’s much quicker, higher qualification, both part 1 and 2 ARB, and has a placement year where I can get experience. But on the other hand I question how risky it is to attend a new course that hasn’t had a graduating class yet. Additionally as I would be a local student at HKU the difference in fees is astronomical.

Would it then be a better decision to take the traditional route and get my bachelors at HKU before going abroad for my masters and then get licensed? Are the job prospects really extremely dissimilar to the point that they justify the massive fee difference? 

If anyone has any experience/ opinions/ thoughts about these schools I will be endlessly grateful!!

 
Jul 25, 21 10:51 am
Non Sequitur

obligatory, take the cheapest option. 

Jul 25, 21 11:07 am  · 
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Arch0

The UCL Bartlett School of Architecture and Environment: a deceitful, profit-driven organisation.

STRONGLY DO NOT RECOMMEND attending the UCL Bartlett School of Architecture and School of Environment, Energy & Resources Environmental Design and Engineering. 

https://archinect.com/forum/th...

https://www.theguardian.com/ed...

https://www.architectsjournal....

Jul 25, 21 8:53 pm  · 
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mitbos

Why do you link to a post complaining The Manchester School of Architecture here??

Jul 31, 21 12:06 am  · 
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archi_gram

honey, I am from Asia and I went to school in the US. First of all, you have no idea how bad is racism and sexism in China, Japan and other countries. Just because people don't talk about it doesn't mean they don't exist. That aspect is not helpful here in the comparison between HKU and UCL. It's just the same racism and sexism in the US, every school needs a revolution like UCL because the situation is bad. UCL is better than these Ivy in the sense that at least people start to talk about these important issues. The abusive environment in the third article, long working hours and harsh critics, is just the everyday life here in my Ivy school.

Jul 31, 21 4:23 pm  · 
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archi_gram

If anything I would recommend attending UCL, since there was this student movement, media attention, and remedies & improvements taking place this past year, while the rest of the architecture schools around the world are still living hells.

Jul 31, 21 4:26 pm  · 
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archi_gram

Also, I just saw your comment in another post complaining about International students at UCL, are you ...racist yourself ?

Jul 31, 21 4:28 pm  · 
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Arch0

Why don't you read about it? UCL was an awful place to study architecture. Students and alumni are finally now speaking out.

The UCL Bartlett School of Architecture and Environment: a deceitful, profit-driven organisation.

STRONGLY DO NOT RECOMMEND attending the UCL Bartlett School of Architecture and School of Environment, Energy & Resources Environmental Design and Engineering. 

https://archinect.com/forum/th...

Ex-students complain of sexism and racism at UCL architecture school 

https://www.theguardian.com/ed...

Bullying Bartlett: abused ex-students are poised to take legal action

https://www.architectsjournal....

Aug 7, 21 12:07 pm  · 
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thepoeticsofspace

I would personally choose UCL, although it sounds like a new course but I can foresee that lots of other schools will be having similar course in the near future. There's no need to be afraid of being the first few cohorts of this programme.
I assume studying in the UK would allow more freedom in presenting concepts and topics than in HKU, perhaps evaluate what you hope to get out of from doing an Architecture degree? and what other things are you interested in other than Architecture?

Jul 26, 21 7:27 pm  · 
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randomised

I’d choose Hong Kong University over Bartlett but for no reason other than I’d love to live in HK...

Jul 31, 21 5:24 pm  · 
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ic0nic

barlett > hku

Aug 10, 21 4:00 am  · 
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hanelisil

Hi - I'm jumping in here as someone who is investigating PhD programs. I'm wondering if folks have a sense for if UCL is super theory-heavy? I'm focused on inclusive/accessible urban design + public spaces. I'd like my dissertation and any design work to be really practical and immediately applicable, tied to practice and pedagogy. Based on what I see in the dissertation/project recap document, this program looks quite... out there... as far as products go, or really heavy into history/theory. Is that an accurate judgment?

Aug 24, 21 12:26 pm  · 
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