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Professional degrees: International vs. USA

modelcitizen

here's my question...if you have a bachelors degree (3 year) in architecture from an EU university...would you be able to become a licensed architect in the USA after completing an M.Arch II?

Do M.Arch II programs accept 3 year degree graduates? or do they encourage you to apply for the M.Arch I degree first?

Just wondering if there is a loop hole in this whole no reciprocity in architecture thing...

If anyone has an idea...please let me know.

Thanks and happy holidays!!

 
Dec 27, 10 4:16 pm
damirarch

Not sure what you consider a difference between M.Arch I and M.Arch II. There is only one M.Arch degree. You need to complete a professional M.Arch degree from NAAB accredited architectural school in order to qualify for licenture. Obviously there is a lot more you need to do after that as you know including taking exams. The admission are different from school to school. If you have fewer years of architectural study as your background you may need to enrol in the longer M.Arch program.

I am curious what architectural school in EU offers 3 year architectural bachlors degree. From what I know they are all 5 year programs based on Bologne standards.

Dec 28, 10 3:34 am  · 
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damirarch

Not sure what you consider a difference between M.Arch I and M.Arch II. There is only one M.Arch degree. You need to complete a professional M.Arch degree from NAAB accredited architectural school in order to qualify for licenture. Obviously there is a lot more you need to do after that as you know including taking exams. The admission are different from school to school. If you have fewer years of architectural study as your background you may need to enrol in the longer M.Arch program.

I am curious what architectural school in EU offers 3 year architectural bachlors degree. From what I know they are all 5 year programs based on Bologne standards.

Dec 28, 10 3:34 am  · 
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Pretty sure you'd be "encouraged" to enter an M.Arch I first, as the 3-year bachelors would be the equivalent of a 4-year B.S. in arch here. Is the undergrad program you're in/thinking of billed as a professional degree and suitable for licensure in that country?

Dec 28, 10 6:40 am  · 
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IamGray

Modelcitizen:

No, an March II is a post-proffessional masters in architecture. It is intended for people who already have their professional qualifications (M.Arch I or B.Arch). It is an academic / research based degree and does not fulfill the prof requirements.
Secondly, you might be able to enter the M.ARch II program (however unlikely), but it won't fast-track you to becoming a licensed, registered architect.

damirarch: There are two types of M.Arch degrees. One is a proffessional degree, the other is post-proffessional.

Additionally, the Bologna standards are attempting to phase out the 5 year architecture degrees (Diplom) in favour of the Bsc /. Msc. route. You"ll see in places like Switzerland and Germany, this is becoming the standard (ie. ETH has already made the switch, UDK Berlin, Uni Stuttgart etc. are in the process). In these places, the bsc. is almost always a 3 year degree course (unlike the USA or Canada where the norm is 4).

Dec 28, 10 10:33 am  · 
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modelcitizen

Well, I was speaking specifically about Ecole d'Architecture de Paris-Belleville...but I realize now that I read the information wrong...and that there is no getting around getting a 5 year degree:

www.eaae.be/eaae2/documents/eguide/FR-5.pdf


Dec 28, 10 10:49 am  · 
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