talk about a big picture look at things!

while koolhaas doesn't propose a resolution of the two strains of 'sustainability' thinking (which would be possibly preposterous), he shows a project they've used as a jumping-off point. most importantly he gives lots of examples of thinking about sustainability that have come before - some which maybe never got the follow-through they deserved - and he makes architects/designers at least partly responsible for the solutions.

good stuff, well presented. thanks, orhan.

Besides the false humility and honesty to admit that architects are to a large extent marginalized in the debate regarding the sustainability debate, Koolhaas does not really provide useful points of departure to discuss sustainability in an architectural sense. After lsitening to it a couple times, I really do not understand what he is talking about.

And the project that he show is certainly an architecture project. So perhaps this means something.

I meant NOT an architecture project. Sorry.

sustainablity in architecture for the most part means not building buildings; which is precisely what the global redepression is doing. by not building buildings architects are contributing to sustainable architecture. of course, it also means missed payments, layoffs, career changes and all around despair. a small price to pay to save our asses from the rising tide of the polar icecap meltoff.