Looked on Autodesk's website and all they had was the subscription versions and on Amazon no luck either or they had versions for around $1k. I just want a caveman version for 2D drafting as I was last was using CAD regularly in 2006.
Wood Guy
Aug 20, 17 2:42 pm
What operating system do you use? Autocad 2014 and older won't (or may not) work on Windows 10.
greenlander1
Aug 21, 17 10:46 pm
I actually saved a windows 8 computer for this very reason!
poop876
Aug 20, 17 4:25 pm
I have 2004 on one of my machines with win 10, so yes it does work! Just have to work around a bit.
Wood Guy
Aug 21, 17 12:09 pm
Do you have the latest updates installed? My Autocad LT 2014 worked fine until the last Windows 10 update. I'm not great with computers so I just went with the subscription model.
poop876
Aug 21, 17 1:02 pm
Yeah it works fine with the latest updates! Actually when I was upgrading Autocad last year to the newest version and I was on the phone with Autodesk, the IT guys said that there is no way I could run 04 on Win 10. I took a screen shot and sent it to him. He was puzzled!
BIMBlaster
Aug 20, 17 6:12 pm
Try old "Autodesk Developer Network" resources, they had CDs and there were a few thousand of them so some of it may be floating around Ebay type places or ISO archives.
randomised
Aug 21, 17 4:04 am
Have you tried second hand / charity shops? I've seen some old Photoshops and CorelDRAWs next to some GTA and Duke Nukem PC games on more than one occasion scouring some local second hand shops, maybe you'll get lucky and they'll have Acad in one close to you?
archinine
Aug 21, 17 8:13 am
If you cannot locate an old cad license you could always opt for rhino 5. One of the last softwares available for outright purchase I think it's like $600 for an individual license. It does everything CAD does (and a lot more), it has a very similar command line with many of the exact or near exact same commands, and the interface can remain as caveman-like as you wish - you can pare it down even more than CAD. There will be a learning curve in terms of sheet sets and plotting as those features are accessed differently, but they are available. It's more than suffice for solo work. As a bonus if you ever start to feel adventurous and want to do some quick 3D work down the line, you have that option without needing to give autodesk more dollars.
thisisnotmyname
Aug 21, 17 10:29 am
Maybe it's for sale on the darkweb? :)
Seriously, Autodesk has put a lot of effort into suppressing the sale of older copies of ACAD as well as not supporting fixes that would make them play well with current Windows versions.
Real innovations and improvements to AutoCad ended quite a while ago, and by making it impossible to "own" the program on a CD-Rom, Autodesk now keeps the money coming in by running a subscription scheme driven by periodic forced upgrades.
poop876
Aug 21, 17 1:03 pm
I hate that! I just want the CD and use it as much as I want.
greenlander1
Aug 21, 17 10:48 pm
Thanks all for the ideas. I ended up ordering autocad 2011 LT for $50. I was scouring through the net for a while til I found it. Took a while. Seller seemed a bit sketchy but went through Amazon so we'll see!
graymttr101
Jun 25, 19 12:44 pm
Does anyone know for sure if Autocad 2004 runs on either windows 7 or 10? If so, what are the work arounds? I'm trying to connect a large format printer for a client who has an XP for CAD 2004, and a Windows 7 server. Any suggestions?
Non Sequitur
Jun 25, 19 1:55 pm
Just buy a new machine.
graymttr101
Jun 25, 19 2:18 pm
LOL I would but they are older gentleman who do not want to change.
poop876
Jun 25, 19 3:54 pm
Yes, it is a fact. I have 2004 on windows 10 on multiple machines, even few month old ones with 10.
poop876
Jun 25, 19 3:56 pm
To work around it...you have to copy appdata and program files into the correct folders as they are in different locations from xp, 7 and 10. But pretty much what happens is, you install it on 10, then when you click to open, it can't locate files, so you have to copy the files from a machine where it works into appropriate folders and then it works!
graymttr101
Jun 25, 19 4:01 pm
AWESOME!! Thank you POOP! lol
OneLostArchitect
Jun 25, 19 9:09 pm
my I ask... why does AutoCAD need to be updated? Nothing has changed since 2000! The whole subscription base is a big money scam IMHO!
thisisnotmyname
Jun 25, 19 9:19 pm
Well, they have changed ACAD by f*cking up the user interface somewhat with the ribbon, etc., but you are correct in the sense that that they have done little to improve the program. Autodesk's subscription pricing is criminal.
greenlander1
Jun 25, 19 11:36 pm
word
poop876
Jun 26, 19 12:45 pm
Right! I hate the new interface!
greenlander1
Jun 25, 19 11:35 pm
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el_naggar4
Jun 22, 22 5:58 am
I hate the new interface!
greenlander1
Jun 22, 22 1:52 pm
haha I cant imagine how complicated it is now. I remember back in 2004ish they did an upgrade and I was like way too much information...
Stasis
Jun 25, 22 12:46 am
My favorite ACAD was 2006.. after that they went through UI change, which I thought it was not as intuitive.. Any newer version came after just ran heavier than it needs to be.. 2006 version was so snappy and opened almost instantly..
rcz1001
Jun 25, 22 12:54 am
Same here.... the ribbon UI, I don't like as much.
greenlander1
Feb 27, 24 11:15 pm
by some miracle I found an old folder in the garage and came across 2002 on disc! I actually have to work on something and am overjoyed since I know where everything is and its not so complicated lol.
Looked on Autodesk's website and all they had was the subscription versions and on Amazon no luck either or they had versions for around $1k. I just want a caveman version for 2D drafting as I was last was using CAD regularly in 2006.
What operating system do you use? Autocad 2014 and older won't (or may not) work on Windows 10.
I actually saved a windows 8 computer for this very reason!
I have 2004 on one of my machines with win 10, so yes it does work! Just have to work around a bit.
Do you have the latest updates installed? My Autocad LT 2014 worked fine until the last Windows 10 update. I'm not great with computers so I just went with the subscription model.
Yeah it works fine with the latest updates! Actually when I was upgrading Autocad last year to the newest version and I was on the phone with Autodesk, the IT guys said that there is no way I could run 04 on Win 10. I took a screen shot and sent it to him. He was puzzled!
Try old "Autodesk Developer Network" resources, they had CDs and there were a few thousand of them so some of it may be floating around Ebay type places or ISO archives.
Have you tried second hand / charity shops? I've seen some old Photoshops and CorelDRAWs next to some GTA and Duke Nukem PC games on more than one occasion scouring some local second hand shops, maybe you'll get lucky and they'll have Acad in one close to you?
If you cannot locate an old cad license you could always opt for rhino 5. One of the last softwares available for outright purchase I think it's like $600 for an individual license. It does everything CAD does (and a lot more), it has a very similar command line with many of the exact or near exact same commands, and the interface can remain as caveman-like as you wish - you can pare it down even more than CAD. There will be a learning curve in terms of sheet sets and plotting as those features are accessed differently, but they are available. It's more than suffice for solo work. As a bonus if you ever start to feel adventurous and want to do some quick 3D work down the line, you have that option without needing to give autodesk more dollars.
Maybe it's for sale on the darkweb? :)
Seriously, Autodesk has put a lot of effort into suppressing the sale of older copies of ACAD as well as not supporting fixes that would make them play well with current Windows versions.
Real innovations and improvements to AutoCad ended quite a while ago, and by making it impossible to "own" the program on a CD-Rom, Autodesk now keeps the money coming in by running a subscription scheme driven by periodic forced upgrades.
I hate that! I just want the CD and use it as much as I want.
Thanks all for the ideas. I ended up ordering autocad 2011 LT for $50. I was scouring through the net for a while til I found it. Took a while. Seller seemed a bit sketchy but went through Amazon so we'll see!
Does anyone know for sure if Autocad 2004 runs on either windows 7 or 10? If so, what are the work arounds? I'm trying to connect a large format printer for a client who has an XP for CAD 2004, and a Windows 7 server. Any suggestions?
Just buy a new machine.
LOL I would but they are older gentleman who do not want to change.
Yes, it is a fact. I have 2004 on windows 10 on multiple machines, even few month old ones with 10.
To work around it...you have to copy appdata and program files into the correct folders as they are in different locations from xp, 7 and 10. But pretty much what happens is, you install it on 10, then when you click to open, it can't locate files, so you have to copy the files from a machine where it works into appropriate folders and then it works!
AWESOME!! Thank you POOP! lol
my I ask... why does AutoCAD need to be updated? Nothing has changed since 2000! The whole subscription base is a big money scam IMHO!
Well, they have changed ACAD by f*cking up the user interface somewhat with the ribbon, etc., but you are correct in the sense that that they have done little to improve the program. Autodesk's subscription pricing is criminal.
word
Right! I hate the new interface!
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I hate the new interface!
haha I cant imagine how complicated it is now. I remember back in 2004ish they did an upgrade and I was like way too much information...
My favorite ACAD was 2006.. after that they went through UI change, which I thought it was not as intuitive.. Any newer version came after just ran heavier than it needs to be.. 2006 version was so snappy and opened almost instantly..
Same here.... the ribbon UI, I don't like as much.
by some miracle I found an old folder in the garage and came across 2002 on disc! I actually have to work on something and am overjoyed since I know where everything is and its not so complicated lol.