Hello guys! I just registered on this forum because I am looking for some help. I am originally not from the U.S. but I am living in New York City and working in a small Architecture company as a draftsman. Recently I surveyed a house that caught fire, structures are ok but it will be necessary to replace sheetrock at walls and ceiling. Also, windows were removed and new ones need to be installed.
Do you guys have any drawing for me to use as a reference? How can I show in the floorplan that ceiling and walls need to be relaminated? I have 12 years' experience as a draftsman but the American standards are new for me.
I am working with an architect but as far I can write without being unethical, he is not helping me out.
Thank yo so much guys!
Non Sequitur
May 4, 16 11:05 am
really?
With 12y worth of "experience", this can't be a real question.
poop876
May 4, 16 11:16 am
That small office does not have any reference drawings? WOW
But this is a good start as you will get real help from people like Balkins. Make sure you count all the brick and mortar joints.
JeromeS
May 4, 16 11:16 am
He's not helping you is a sign your performance may not be up to par.
How would you have designated the same back in the motherland?
x-jla
May 4, 16 11:25 am
The op is Balkins trying to pull people away from that other shit storm by starting a new one.
cadomestique
May 4, 16 2:10 pm
I'm on the West Coast where no permit is required to replace drywall or windows, as long as opening size is not affected, therefore nope, i wouldn't do any drawings for that. Just a note: "remove and replace as needed" DONE
But if you want to go all your trouble, handle ceilings on floor plan with a grayscale hatch/poche and basic elevations for showings extent of work on walls.
Don't get carry away depicting door handles/moulding and such. Treat it as a remodel job ie: as simple and vague as possible on areas where there's no work.
Hope that helps.
sbraga
May 4, 16 2:15 pm
Non Sequitur: I have never worked with framing/wood/sheetrock before. So, yes, this is a real question.
sbraga
May 4, 16 2:18 pm
poop876: No, they don't have any drawings because they lost everything in a computer crash. Thanks for replying me.
senjohnblutarsky
May 4, 16 2:41 pm
Ok...
Wood Construction basics: American Forest & Paper Association Wood construction Data.
Details for drywall can be found on most suppliers websites. US Gypsum, National Gypsum Co, etc.
Or find a copy of Architectural Graphic Standards. Every office should have one.
sbraga
May 4, 16 2:42 pm
cadomestique: Thank you so much for your help. In New York it is required permit for it. I liked what you said, to keep it basic. I think I am doing it right, see picture bellow. Again, thank you so much.
sbraga
May 4, 16 2:48 pm
senjohnblutarsky: I just figured out that they have a copy of the Architectural Graphic Standards here, I didn't know this book. Thank you for the suppliers references, I'll take a look at they websites. I appreciate your prompt reply.
cadomestique
May 4, 16 3:01 pm
Hey no prob.
i'd remove the exterior stucco/veneer layer from plans, keep it simple remember? show only what needs to be removed & replaced.
I've done many remodels, it may help to create a separate plan to show "As-built, Existing Conditions Plan" and a "Proposed plan" .
"2735 SH Window to be replaced" note on one plan & "2735 SH New Window on exg. opening" on proposed plan. Assume plan checkers are idiots and need to make their life easier.
No one in the US says "relaminate ceilling" a simple "replace damaged 1/2" gyp bd. ceiling" is enough. (1/2" for ceillings is OK, 5/8" for walls, typ)
poop876
May 4, 16 3:11 pm
you can't just say 1/2" for ceiling! It depends on the spacing of structure above. You don't want that 1/2" to sag.
Remember that if you are exposing cavities of walls, they could make you upgrade insulation package to comply with today's code.
sbraga
May 4, 16 4:08 pm
cadomestique: Actually this line is inside the house. I just wanted to highlight which rooms and walls the gyp bd shall be replaced. I agree to create an existing and proposed condition, it is much better. However, there is no windows actually, just openings. So, I'll show the openings and note "existing opening" instead of "window do be replaced". Also, thank you for the English tip, the way that you wrote sounds much better. About the exterior, the vinyl siding was also damaged by the fire. Do you think that a simple note to "replace the damaged vinyl siding" is enough?
Thank you so much
sbraga
May 4, 16 4:12 pm
About the ceiling thickness, I think I should keep the same thickness that is already installed there, which is 5/8". Thank you.
also, one of the most comprehensive repository - Sweets: http://sweets.construction.com/ - you will find most building suppliers listed there, cad details (some of them for Revit) etc. You can look for the appropriate supplier based on the product you need. Most of them have their own websites with technical resources, including CAD libraries of various details as dwg files (if lucky) or at least pdf's.
sbraga
May 4, 16 4:45 pm
@AdrianFGA:
Thank you so much for the information, I'll bookmark these websites and use them in the future.
Hello guys! I just registered on this forum because I am looking for some help. I am originally not from the U.S. but I am living in New York City and working in a small Architecture company as a draftsman. Recently I surveyed a house that caught fire, structures are ok but it will be necessary to replace sheetrock at walls and ceiling. Also, windows were removed and new ones need to be installed.
Do you guys have any drawing for me to use as a reference? How can I show in the floorplan that ceiling and walls need to be relaminated? I have 12 years' experience as a draftsman but the American standards are new for me.
I am working with an architect but as far I can write without being unethical, he is not helping me out.
Thank yo so much guys!
really?
With 12y worth of "experience", this can't be a real question.
That small office does not have any reference drawings? WOW
But this is a good start as you will get real help from people like Balkins. Make sure you count all the brick and mortar joints.
He's not helping you is a sign your performance may not be up to par.
How would you have designated the same back in the motherland?
The op is Balkins trying to pull people away from that other shit storm by starting a new one.
I'm on the West Coast where no permit is required to replace drywall or windows, as long as opening size is not affected, therefore nope, i wouldn't do any drawings for that. Just a note: "remove and replace as needed" DONE
But if you want to go all your trouble, handle ceilings on floor plan with a grayscale hatch/poche and basic elevations for showings extent of work on walls.
Don't get carry away depicting door handles/moulding and such. Treat it as a remodel job ie: as simple and vague as possible on areas where there's no work.
Hope that helps.
Non Sequitur: I have never worked with framing/wood/sheetrock before. So, yes, this is a real question.
poop876: No, they don't have any drawings because they lost everything in a computer crash. Thanks for replying me.
Ok...
Wood Construction basics: American Forest & Paper Association Wood construction Data.
Details for drywall can be found on most suppliers websites. US Gypsum, National Gypsum Co, etc.
Or find a copy of Architectural Graphic Standards. Every office should have one.
cadomestique: Thank you so much for your help. In New York it is required permit for it. I liked what you said, to keep it basic. I think I am doing it right, see picture bellow. Again, thank you so much.
senjohnblutarsky: I just figured out that they have a copy of the Architectural Graphic Standards here, I didn't know this book. Thank you for the suppliers references, I'll take a look at they websites. I appreciate your prompt reply.
Hey no prob.
i'd remove the exterior stucco/veneer layer from plans, keep it simple remember? show only what needs to be removed & replaced.
I've done many remodels, it may help to create a separate plan to show "As-built, Existing Conditions Plan" and a "Proposed plan" .
"2735 SH Window to be replaced" note on one plan & "2735 SH New Window on exg. opening" on proposed plan. Assume plan checkers are idiots and need to make their life easier.
No one in the US says "relaminate ceilling" a simple "replace damaged 1/2" gyp bd. ceiling" is enough. (1/2" for ceillings is OK, 5/8" for walls, typ)
you can't just say 1/2" for ceiling! It depends on the spacing of structure above. You don't want that 1/2" to sag.
Remember that if you are exposing cavities of walls, they could make you upgrade insulation package to comply with today's code.
cadomestique: Actually this line is inside the house. I just wanted to highlight which rooms and walls the gyp bd shall be replaced. I agree to create an existing and proposed condition, it is much better. However, there is no windows actually, just openings. So, I'll show the openings and note "existing opening" instead of "window do be replaced". Also, thank you for the English tip, the way that you wrote sounds much better. About the exterior, the vinyl siding was also damaged by the fire. Do you think that a simple note to "replace the damaged vinyl siding" is enough?
Thank you so much
About the ceiling thickness, I think I should keep the same thickness that is already installed there, which is 5/8". Thank you.
@sbraga:
here are a few resources in no particular order:
http://www.arcat.com/
http://cadcorner.ca/
http://cadblocksfree.com/
http://www.ebuild.com/
http://www.4specs.com/
also, one of the most comprehensive repository - Sweets: http://sweets.construction.com/ - you will find most building suppliers listed there, cad details (some of them for Revit) etc. You can look for the appropriate supplier based on the product you need. Most of them have their own websites with technical resources, including CAD libraries of various details as dwg files (if lucky) or at least pdf's.
@AdrianFGA:
Thank you so much for the information, I'll bookmark these websites and use them in the future.
^
no problem
may I ask where you are from?
I am from Brazil.
^ Nice!
Also here https://www.nationalgypsum.com/resources/index.htm and
https://www.usg.com/content/usgcom/en/resource-center.html - these two have most of the stuff one needs about drywall and such.
Also, you should order The Gypsum Construction Handbook by USG. For general use, the Architectural Graphic Standards, and this book http://www.amazon.com/Architectural-Graphics-Francis-D-Ching/dp/0470399112