The National Council of Building Designer Certification (NCBDC) Board of Examiners will be conducting a four-hour meeting this week to develop the Examinations Specifications of the Certified Professional Building Designer (CPBD) certification program. Acting as the Council’s “Scheme Committee,” the board will be using the results of the 2015 Job Analysis Survey to finalize the content weighting of the examination outline. The meeting will be facilitated by PSI Services, a certification industry leader providing test development, psychometric services, leadership consulting services and item (i.e. question) authoring and banking solutions.
With PSI’s oversight, the board of examiners will review the existing CPBD examination and consider any areas in which an adjustment to the content weighing may be needed to develop a relevant and valid sampling of the competencies required for the CPBD job/career role.
This task is step one of a three step plan for Spring 2016. NCBDC is looking for volunteers from the industry to help reclassify the existing exam content and another group of volunteers to undergo training to become item writers. Once the Exam Specifications are complete, some time in May, step two will include two six-hour online meetings with subject matter experts (SMEs) to evaluate existing examination content according to the newly created Exam Specs. Step three consists of three 90-minute item-writer sessions via webinar with SMEs. PSI will provide training regarding clear guidelines on procedures for writing effective test items, principles for writing good test items and item writing exercises. In addition, the training will introduce the us of PSI’s user-friendly portal for item authoring and banking. This secure method for SMEs to contribute items is a state-of-the-art online banking tool.
ATTENTION !!!! - licensed / registered Architects specializing in residential and light commercial buildings as well as certified professional building designers.
I like to personally invite you to consider participating in Stage two and Three of the NCBDC certification exam 'redevelopment'. As it is the goal of AIBD/NCBDC for this exam to be ANSI accredited. It is also part of the process to involve subject matter experts into the process of making the exam in part necessarily rigorous, valid and covering the kind of work that building designers and architects work on.
More information on this would be available and posted as I become aware of it.
The exam should be necessarily rigorous in assessing the knowledge and skills a building designer would need to know for competent practice. As we know, building designers / home designers work on light commercial buildings and residential. We don't typically work on high rises as the licensing laws exemptions are. I'm probably not be involved in the item-writer phase as I intend to take the exam. I maybe involved in step two (maybe... maybe not), if I do, I'd probably have to wait until step three is completed and implemented into the NCBDC exam before going further. There is key parts I need to not be part of if I am to take the exam at some point.
However, I am suggesting architects and existing CPBDs because they would not be required to take the exam or had already taken the exam. All answers to the questions in the exam will obviously need to be valid with verifiable answers.
You will obviously be talking with the AIBD Director and the NCBDC director. I personally want the questions to be the kind of questions that simple-minded easy. Let it be comparably rigorous as the ARE but focused on the subject matters primarily related to residential and light commercial projects. The questions have depth to it. I'm not looking for what is the acronym for a department. While I may have fewer questions than there maybe in the ARE, I don't want to waste questions on simple-minded questions. Questions obviously needs to be objective and defensible and not just opinions.
A little thing to keep in mind is building designers/residential designers can quite often work in many states and the exemptions ranges a bit so I would expect questions relevant in all ranges from residential & varying sizes of multi-family residential to various sizes of commercial, educational/institutional/assembly buildings typically under two or three stories. Since each state's exemption varies, we don't want to get state specific so much.
The construction systems typically of buildings under 5 stories in height is typically what would be used so exam should be focused to that end.
I recommend architects who specializes in residential and light commercial because our practices overlaps significantly compared to large corporate firms designing skyscrapers, stadiums, and large scale commercial/institutional/etc. projects.
Apr 27, 16 3:15 pm
eeayeeayo,
I'll email Steve Mickley to verify organizational status of NCBDC and little more details on that.
Non Sequitur
Apr 27, 16 3:21 pm
^ does Steve Mickley have a solution to our kangaroon drowning problems?
Perhaps some sort of flotation vest I suspect despite what many might think, kagaroo drownings is well known across hundreds of nations all over the world. kagaroo drownings has been around for several centuries and has a very important meaning in the lives of many. It would be safe to assume that kagaroo drownings is going to be around for a long time and have an enormous impact on the lives of many people.
Social & Cultural Factors
kagaroo drownings has a large role in American Culture. Many people can often be seen taking part in activities associated with kagaroo drownings. This is partly because people of most ages can be involved and families are brought together by this. Generally a person who displays their dislike for kagaroo drownings may be considered an outcast.
Economic Factors
It is not common practice to associate economics with kagaroo drownings. Generally, kagaroo drownings would be thought to have no effect on our economic situation, but there are in fact some effects. The sales industry associated with kagaroo drownings is actually a 2.3 billion dollar a year industry and growing each year. The industry employs nearly 150,000 people in the United States alone. It would be safe to say that kagaroo drownings play an important role in American economics and shouldn't be taken for granted.
Environmental Factors
After a three month long research project, I've been able to conclude that kagaroo drownings doesn't negatively effect the environment at all. A kagaroo drownings did not seem to result in waste products and couldn't be found in forests, jungles, rivers, lakes, oceans, etc... In fact, kagaroo drownings produced some positive effects on our sweet little nature.
Political Factors
Oh does kagaroo drownings ever influence politics. Last year 5 candidates running for some sort of position used kagaroo drownings as the primary topic of their campaign. A person might think kagaroo drownings would be a bad topic to lead a campaign with, but in fact with the social and environmental impact is has, this topic was able to gain a great number of followers. These 5 candidates went 4 for 5 on winning their positions.
Conclusion
kagaroo drownings seem to be a much more important idea that most give credit for. Next time you see or think of kagaroo drownings, think about what you just read and realize what is really going on. It is likely you under valued kagaroo drownings before, but will now start to give the credited needed and deserved.
Apr 27, 16 3:23 pm
Richard Balkins, Why would anyone want the fucking useless certification anyways. No one cares. Clients have never asked me about licenses or certifications. They only ask to see past work, client reviews, etc. No one gives a shit. Spend your time doing work and finding projects and stop wasting time with these useless credentials.
jla-x,
I know you aren't a fan of the licensing laws. The licensing laws is a statutory requirement. It wouldn't be long that building departments will expect at least some level of certification for the exempt projects. The age of home owners designing their own homes will probably go the way of the dodo bird unless you happen to be certified or licensed.
Unless you guys decide to repeal the licensing laws for being an architect and turn the trend the other way, regulations are going to be more so and certifications as with licensing (credentials) are going to be critical for public searching for people with some verification of competence by third party.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 3:37 pm
i can tell you what needs to go the way of dodo bird...
btw ricky water closet, a licensed architect does not make for a competent one. when it comes to smaller projects, word of mouth gets more work and credibility than someone googling "CPBD, Astoria, Oregon."
Apr 27, 16 3:41 pm
Apparently it's even worse than that. It's offered all online. How do they even verify that the person taking the exam is the person whose name is on it? With that level of oversight and security why do they bother with developing content at all? They could just send a nice certificate with a gold seal on it right out to anyone who sends the test fee and a picture of themselves pointing to a building.
It's in the proctoring service process.
You know, a high definition camera, show your ID card, as well as some other verification methods.
The camera will probably have to be 1080p and higher camera. We aren't talking 1995 era web cameras anymore.
"Everyday Intern, the answer is all of the above, and submit plans for an addition to a tool shed in the neighbour's front yard in lieu of an office layout."
Non Sequitur, I'm sorry your answer is incorrect. But since anyone could conceivably take this test for you, and since you can keep trying again and again to pass those portions you fail ... feel free to give it another shot or get someone else to answer for you.
I'll give you a hint though, your answer didn't address the protected kangaroo burial grounds the neighbor's tool shed would uncover. Also keep in mind that you might need to take a course in ground penetrating radar at the local community college. Securing funding for that course might be problematic as well given your daily allowance and how much needs to be reserved for meals.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 3:43 pm
so the CPBD exam is actually a pervy web cam scheme?
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 3:46 pm
Wrong again Rick. They would have to grandfather anyone in who is already practicing and earning a living. The state can't force you to close down shop and shut down your business lol. That would be an illegal seizure of property. I have 2 real lawyers in my fam that can confirm that if you don't believe me so please save your time cutting and pasting from Wikipedia.
Everyday Intern
Apr 27, 16 3:52 pm
There is absolutely no way I could appear on the webcam while someone else is taking my exam on a second monitor or feeding me test answers. Problem solved.
SpontaneousCombustion
Apr 27, 16 4:28 pm
Rick there's a guy on AIBD's facebook page saying he already took it via internet, and passed immediately. Again you didn't answer the question: what percentage of people actually ever fail this exam? Post some real statistics, not a guess. Stop trying to be the spokesperson for an organization you joined a year or two ago. You don't even qualify to take this exam.
As for "show your ID" - on a web cam? Really? and what's to stop you from paying me to take your test for you and photoshopping an ID with my picture and your name?
As for states moving toward requiring more credentials: why wouldn't they just scrap "exempt" projects and require an architect or engineer? Those are credentials the state already regulates. Why on earth are they going to even consider some credential they've never heard of that nobody else recognizes?
Even in the few states that require architects for residential projects now, homeowners are still allowed to design and do construction and even wiring and plumbing on their own residential properties - I can't see that changing - too much DIY pioneer spirit.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 5:00 pm
Question: is your name Richard Balkins
A. Yes
B. No
If you answer A you automatically fail and get exiled to the Australian Outback where you spend the remainder of your life teaching Kangaroos how to use a theodite.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 5:01 pm
Theodolite.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 5:03 pm
Actually, since the theodolite is so outdated, he will be better served artificially inseminating kangaroos to help boost their population.
Apr 27, 16 5:16 pm
Sponty,
Why won't they just remove the exemption, the AIBD and the NAHB won't let that happen.
Non Sequitur
Apr 27, 16 5:20 pm
Question: If Richard Balkins was a sandwich, what type would he be?
a. A precisely cut (no crust) ham and cheese on white bread, carefully warped, and immediately discarded since its maker lacked the necessary online testing for licensed sandwich makers.
b. An uncooked hamburger, preferably from a greasy-spoon diner that still allows patrons to smoke inside. No pickles.
c. Vegetarian roast-beef
d. Peanut butter and jelly served to an allergic kid via drone
Apr 27, 16 5:28 pm
e. A Soggy Shit sandwich
Everyday Intern
Apr 27, 16 5:32 pm
"e. A Soggy Shit sandwich"
Is that your final answer?
Non Sequitur
Apr 27, 16 5:38 pm
Tangential question, is soggy better than dry?
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 6:16 pm
F. A bologna sandwich on white bread with a side of Cosby Jello for desert.
SpontaneousCombustion
Apr 27, 16 6:51 pm
Ha. All zero AIBD members and 10 NAHB members in the state are going to rise up and prevail? Good luck to them.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 6:59 pm
A. although the sandwich bread would need to be made from scratch from clatsop county wheat and baked by balkins. the meat would need to be made from hogs raised in balkin's backyard (if appropriately zoned for agricultural use) and then fed a grass fed diet. slaughtering would be done by USDA standards in an approved facility by clatsop county health department. the assembly would be done by drones and monitored for accuracy with a theodolite and dial calipers. the paper wrapping would be from 100% post-consumer recycled paper made by hand in his basement under cottage industry special permit. the wrapping of the sandwich with the paper would be done in a USDA ASTM certified facility approved by clatsop county health department. consumption of said sandwich would be done wearing NSF rubber gloves. the rubber coming from sustainable sourced trees harvested by fair trade labor. consumption would occur in a clatsop county health department approved space with all necessary protections i.e.: sneeze guards, air curtains, FRP finishes, etc.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 7:02 pm
States will never get rid of sfr exemptions. Most states are trying to slim down on regs.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 7:04 pm
Lol +++no form
Apr 27, 16 7:13 pm
When NCBDC became separate from the AIBD, the National Council of Building Designer, Inc. was formed July 30th 1998 in Oklahoma as a DOMESTIC NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The NCBDC acronym continued to be used.
I have a reply from the executive director from AIBD. He confirmed that as part of the merger, National Council of Building Designer Certification, Inc. was dissolved upon merger as it was merged into the American Institute of Building Design (a 501(c)6 District of Columbia registered non-profit corporation) in 2011.
Within the terms of the merger agreement, the AIBD then created a Designated Council with the name: National Council of Building Designer Certification. This council is a separate council than the AIBD's Board of Directors. The National Council of Building Designer Certification, within the AIBD, has its own governing board called the BOARD OF EXAMINERS. The Board of Examiners is authorized to make certain decisions like the AIBD's Board of Directors "but only on decisions that relates to the certification program".
Yes, there are for profit businesses in the world that uses the same NCBDC acronym. However, I was talking about the National Council of Building Designer Certification including "National Council of Building Designer Certification, Inc." not the National Cooperative Bank Development Corporation.
Apr 27, 16 7:19 pm
SpontaneousCombustion,
What state do you live in that has that few NAHB?
Bloopox
Apr 27, 16 8:03 pm
Rick you have an email from the executive director that contains the phrase "but only on decisions that relates to the certification program"? He writes worse than you do! You're doing the best job anybody could possibly do to make AIBD look like a bunch of morons. Consider that if any potential client ever does google "AIBD" or "NCBDC" they're going to find this thread.
Josh Mings
Apr 27, 16 8:09 pm
This thread was funny. Now it's just sad. Like two vinyl single hung windows with a wood door entry on a blank wall sad.
Apr 27, 16 8:13 pm
Bloopox,
He isn't Shakesphere for gawd sake.
I'm not Hemmingway and you are no Dickens.
curtkram
Apr 27, 16 8:17 pm
dickens was paid by the word.
why are you still going on about this?
Apr 27, 16 8:24 pm
Josh, You want big f---ing windows casting light into the live performance theater? It's a small theater. It's a Vaudville/Melodrama style theater program. The stage is in the rear of the main structure (C.M.U. constructed). It's about 20-ft. deep by about 38-ft. wide. Then you have the audience seating area. The front/northern side has the ticket booth, the projectionist area with the projecting light, the souvenir stand on the northwest corner and on the northeast corner the soda, popcorn and beer.
Josh Mings
Apr 27, 16 8:26 pm
Like I said previously Rick, you should not have had an entry open directly into the performance space.
This is why you hire an architect.
Apr 27, 16 8:29 pm
curtkram,
My point to Bloopox is to quit expecting me to right eloquently. I am not a damn poet. I don't write to impress people in poetry and fancy writing. I took technical writing in college not poetry.
Josh Mings
Apr 27, 16 8:31 pm
*write
Non Sequitur
Apr 27, 16 8:32 pm
"I don't write to impress people in poetry and fancy writing"
Ricky, you only write to impress yourself.
curtkram
Apr 27, 16 8:37 pm
i don't think shakespere, dickens, or hemmingway were known as poets. percy shelley was, or john keats. those could be good examples.
curtkram
Apr 27, 16 8:43 pm
you know who's a good poet is dylan thomas. he has great stuff. you should be reading that instead of this crap about alternative licensure or whatever it is you think you're doing.
curtkram
Apr 27, 16 8:44 pm
if i recall, he did a show on bbc radio for a while. i bet you could search for it on you tube. you might not even have to read it, he could read it out loud for you.
null pointer
Apr 27, 16 8:50 pm
what the fuck is this shit shit
no_form
Apr 27, 16 8:51 pm
what's more sad than balkin's vinyl theater farce is kangaroos drowning in water towers constructed by CPBD's working outside their jurisdiction.
Apr 27, 16 8:53 pm
Josh Ming,
This is a small theater. They were in a building before hand where the doors opens directly. There isn't a bog lobby area Josh. They didn't have that in its prior space. They had to lease the property, finance the remodeling and collect money to purchase the property. They didn't have a budget. If they hired an architect, they would be closed. Why?
Architects like yourself wants to make the project big. They always go over budget and go with champaigne taste. Sorry, when you have a beer budget, you don't buy champaigne and fancy wine. You buy a case of bud lite.
In order for there to be what you suggested, they would have to build a lobby with new ticket booth at that location, and of course some additional permanent restrooms. You have maybe 15' x 50' to maybe 75-ft. of area to add. Assuming a 750 sq.ft. addition. At about an RS Means estimate.... you are probably looking at around $150/sq.ft. construction cost. That's $112,500. A $112,500 that they didn't have. Those windows are easily removable and replace the few sheets of T-111,batten strips, underlayment, etc. It doesn't cost that much.
The project was in part frustrating because I didn't even have a budget presented to me by the client. NO ARCHITECT even came forward. Guess what, I even sought out an architect. Not only one but three local architects. None of them wanted to touch this project.
The door you see in the front is an exit for emergency exit. Okay. That is why it is there.
People enter in from the east side of the building. The performance area is on the stage. NO DOOR enters directly on to the stage.
We had 9 months TOTAL time. I even told them, from the get go, they will need an architect for any addition to the building or increase in height of the building. This is a small theater. There isn't physically enough room in just under 4000 sq.ft. to have a "lobby". They didn't have a "lobby" even in the previous location they were at.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 8:53 pm
Balkins get a job
You should never design
Rick you are so sick
Not my best haiku but hey. I ain't no fancy college poet.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 9:05 pm
Architects with small budgets come up with creative solutions. They know how to make a big design move with a small budget.
You just see small budget and assume there are no possibilities to do something special.
Balkins your mind set is exactly why there is so much shit littering the planet.
curtkram
Apr 27, 16 9:06 pm
or they look at the windows on every other building on the block. . .
eeayeeayo
Apr 27, 16 9:09 pm
The thing that's more worrying about that theater is that Balkins once posted a full description of the stage assembly in one of these threads - and when it was pointed out to him that the decking didn't meet minimum code requirements he then suddenly "remembered" that he actually used decking that was a quarter inch thicker than he'd said. Not that I was surprised by that - Rick has a long history of "suddenly remembering" the opposite of whatever he just said whenever it's pointed out that he's criminally wrong. It does make me worry about the community theater actors - I hope whatever they're doing this season doesn't require enthusiastic dancing.
Bloopox
Apr 27, 16 9:19 pm
Rick I didn't say that you need to write eloquently. I said that the person who wrote the phrase that you provided in quotes is a poor writer. Are you saying that you actually wrote that yourself? That is what I suspected from the recognizable pattern of bad grammar, and you seem to be admitting it. If you want to convey any credible information on this forum about AIBD and NCBDC you should suggest to the executive director that he create his own account and provide that information himself. We can't believe anything you write.
x-jla
Apr 27, 16 9:24 pm
Fuck the dancers, I just hope that there aren't any kangaroos jumping around on that stage!
Josh Mings
Apr 27, 16 9:28 pm
Rick, I work for a firm that specializes in affordable housing. I work with small budgets regularly. We get creative and make good buildings and design that work within these budgets. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Josh Mings
Apr 27, 16 9:30 pm
Also, I want to see a kangaroo chorus line. Someone make Australia the Musical, stat. Get Russell Crowe on the phone.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 9:58 pm
I want to see a kangaroo rendition of the road warrior. Shit that would be amazing. We could hire a licensed architect in Australia to design a proper vinyl free stage that would support the live load of dancing kangaroos.
no_form
Apr 27, 16 9:59 pm
JLA-x and josh let's call may marsupial awareness month.
CPBD exam specifications under review by NCBDC.
The National Council of Building Designer Certification (NCBDC) Board of Examiners will be conducting a four-hour meeting this week to develop the Examinations Specifications of the Certified Professional Building Designer (CPBD) certification program. Acting as the Council’s “Scheme Committee,” the board will be using the results of the 2015 Job Analysis Survey to finalize the content weighting of the examination outline. The meeting will be facilitated by PSI Services, a certification industry leader providing test development, psychometric services, leadership consulting services and item (i.e. question) authoring and banking solutions.
With PSI’s oversight, the board of examiners will review the existing CPBD examination and consider any areas in which an adjustment to the content weighing may be needed to develop a relevant and valid sampling of the competencies required for the CPBD job/career role.
This task is step one of a three step plan for Spring 2016. NCBDC is looking for volunteers from the industry to help reclassify the existing exam content and another group of volunteers to undergo training to become item writers. Once the Exam Specifications are complete, some time in May, step two will include two six-hour online meetings with subject matter experts (SMEs) to evaluate existing examination content according to the newly created Exam Specs. Step three consists of three 90-minute item-writer sessions via webinar with SMEs. PSI will provide training regarding clear guidelines on procedures for writing effective test items, principles for writing good test items and item writing exercises. In addition, the training will introduce the us of PSI’s user-friendly portal for item authoring and banking. This secure method for SMEs to contribute items is a state-of-the-art online banking tool.
(originally posted: http://www.aibd.org/mondayminute/?p=3435)
ATTENTION !!!! - licensed / registered Architects specializing in residential and light commercial buildings as well as certified professional building designers.
I like to personally invite you to consider participating in Stage two and Three of the NCBDC certification exam 'redevelopment'. As it is the goal of AIBD/NCBDC for this exam to be ANSI accredited. It is also part of the process to involve subject matter experts into the process of making the exam in part necessarily rigorous, valid and covering the kind of work that building designers and architects work on.
More information on this would be available and posted as I become aware of it.
The exam should be necessarily rigorous in assessing the knowledge and skills a building designer would need to know for competent practice. As we know, building designers / home designers work on light commercial buildings and residential. We don't typically work on high rises as the licensing laws exemptions are. I'm probably not be involved in the item-writer phase as I intend to take the exam. I maybe involved in step two (maybe... maybe not), if I do, I'd probably have to wait until step three is completed and implemented into the NCBDC exam before going further. There is key parts I need to not be part of if I am to take the exam at some point.
However, I am suggesting architects and existing CPBDs because they would not be required to take the exam or had already taken the exam. All answers to the questions in the exam will obviously need to be valid with verifiable answers.
You will obviously be talking with the AIBD Director and the NCBDC director. I personally want the questions to be the kind of questions that simple-minded easy. Let it be comparably rigorous as the ARE but focused on the subject matters primarily related to residential and light commercial projects. The questions have depth to it. I'm not looking for what is the acronym for a department. While I may have fewer questions than there maybe in the ARE, I don't want to waste questions on simple-minded questions. Questions obviously needs to be objective and defensible and not just opinions.
A little thing to keep in mind is building designers/residential designers can quite often work in many states and the exemptions ranges a bit so I would expect questions relevant in all ranges from residential & varying sizes of multi-family residential to various sizes of commercial, educational/institutional/assembly buildings typically under two or three stories. Since each state's exemption varies, we don't want to get state specific so much.
The construction systems typically of buildings under 5 stories in height is typically what would be used so exam should be focused to that end.
I recommend architects who specializes in residential and light commercial because our practices overlaps significantly compared to large corporate firms designing skyscrapers, stadiums, and large scale commercial/institutional/etc. projects.
eeayeeayo,
I'll email Steve Mickley to verify organizational status of NCBDC and little more details on that.
^ does Steve Mickley have a solution to our kangaroon drowning problems?
Perhaps some sort of flotation vest I suspect despite what many might think, kagaroo drownings is well known across hundreds of nations all over the world. kagaroo drownings has been around for several centuries and has a very important meaning in the lives of many. It would be safe to assume that kagaroo drownings is going to be around for a long time and have an enormous impact on the lives of many people.
Social & Cultural Factors
kagaroo drownings has a large role in American Culture. Many people can often be seen taking part in activities associated with kagaroo drownings. This is partly because people of most ages can be involved and families are brought together by this. Generally a person who displays their dislike for kagaroo drownings may be considered an outcast.
Economic Factors
It is not common practice to associate economics with kagaroo drownings. Generally, kagaroo drownings would be thought to have no effect on our economic situation, but there are in fact some effects. The sales industry associated with kagaroo drownings is actually a 2.3 billion dollar a year industry and growing each year. The industry employs nearly 150,000 people in the United States alone. It would be safe to say that kagaroo drownings play an important role in American economics and shouldn't be taken for granted.
Environmental Factors
After a three month long research project, I've been able to conclude that kagaroo drownings doesn't negatively effect the environment at all. A kagaroo drownings did not seem to result in waste products and couldn't be found in forests, jungles, rivers, lakes, oceans, etc... In fact, kagaroo drownings produced some positive effects on our sweet little nature.
Political Factors
Oh does kagaroo drownings ever influence politics. Last year 5 candidates running for some sort of position used kagaroo drownings as the primary topic of their campaign. A person might think kagaroo drownings would be a bad topic to lead a campaign with, but in fact with the social and environmental impact is has, this topic was able to gain a great number of followers. These 5 candidates went 4 for 5 on winning their positions.
Conclusion
kagaroo drownings seem to be a much more important idea that most give credit for. Next time you see or think of kagaroo drownings, think about what you just read and realize what is really going on. It is likely you under valued kagaroo drownings before, but will now start to give the credited needed and deserved.
Richard Balkins, Why would anyone want the fucking useless certification anyways. No one cares. Clients have never asked me about licenses or certifications. They only ask to see past work, client reviews, etc. No one gives a shit. Spend your time doing work and finding projects and stop wasting time with these useless credentials.
jla-x,
I know you aren't a fan of the licensing laws. The licensing laws is a statutory requirement. It wouldn't be long that building departments will expect at least some level of certification for the exempt projects. The age of home owners designing their own homes will probably go the way of the dodo bird unless you happen to be certified or licensed.
Unless you guys decide to repeal the licensing laws for being an architect and turn the trend the other way, regulations are going to be more so and certifications as with licensing (credentials) are going to be critical for public searching for people with some verification of competence by third party.
i can tell you what needs to go the way of dodo bird...
btw ricky water closet, a licensed architect does not make for a competent one. when it comes to smaller projects, word of mouth gets more work and credibility than someone googling "CPBD, Astoria, Oregon."
Apparently it's even worse than that. It's offered all online. How do they even verify that the person taking the exam is the person whose name is on it? With that level of oversight and security why do they bother with developing content at all? They could just send a nice certificate with a gold seal on it right out to anyone who sends the test fee and a picture of themselves pointing to a building.
It's in the proctoring service process.
You know, a high definition camera, show your ID card, as well as some other verification methods.
The camera will probably have to be 1080p and higher camera. We aren't talking 1995 era web cameras anymore.
https://proctoru.com/
Start there.
"Everyday Intern, the answer is all of the above, and submit plans for an addition to a tool shed in the neighbour's front yard in lieu of an office layout."
Non Sequitur, I'm sorry your answer is incorrect. But since anyone could conceivably take this test for you, and since you can keep trying again and again to pass those portions you fail ... feel free to give it another shot or get someone else to answer for you.
I'll give you a hint though, your answer didn't address the protected kangaroo burial grounds the neighbor's tool shed would uncover. Also keep in mind that you might need to take a course in ground penetrating radar at the local community college. Securing funding for that course might be problematic as well given your daily allowance and how much needs to be reserved for meals.
so the CPBD exam is actually a pervy web cam scheme?
Wrong again Rick. They would have to grandfather anyone in who is already practicing and earning a living. The state can't force you to close down shop and shut down your business lol. That would be an illegal seizure of property. I have 2 real lawyers in my fam that can confirm that if you don't believe me so please save your time cutting and pasting from Wikipedia.
There is absolutely no way I could appear on the webcam while someone else is taking my exam on a second monitor or feeding me test answers. Problem solved.
Rick there's a guy on AIBD's facebook page saying he already took it via internet, and passed immediately. Again you didn't answer the question: what percentage of people actually ever fail this exam? Post some real statistics, not a guess. Stop trying to be the spokesperson for an organization you joined a year or two ago. You don't even qualify to take this exam.
As for "show your ID" - on a web cam? Really? and what's to stop you from paying me to take your test for you and photoshopping an ID with my picture and your name?
As for states moving toward requiring more credentials: why wouldn't they just scrap "exempt" projects and require an architect or engineer? Those are credentials the state already regulates. Why on earth are they going to even consider some credential they've never heard of that nobody else recognizes?
Even in the few states that require architects for residential projects now, homeowners are still allowed to design and do construction and even wiring and plumbing on their own residential properties - I can't see that changing - too much DIY pioneer spirit.
Question: is your name Richard Balkins
A. Yes
B. No
If you answer A you automatically fail and get exiled to the Australian Outback where you spend the remainder of your life teaching Kangaroos how to use a theodite.
Theodolite.
Actually, since the theodolite is so outdated, he will be better served artificially inseminating kangaroos to help boost their population.
Sponty,
Why won't they just remove the exemption, the AIBD and the NAHB won't let that happen.
Question: If Richard Balkins was a sandwich, what type would he be?
a. A precisely cut (no crust) ham and cheese on white bread, carefully warped, and immediately discarded since its maker lacked the necessary online testing for licensed sandwich makers.
b. An uncooked hamburger, preferably from a greasy-spoon diner that still allows patrons to smoke inside. No pickles.
c. Vegetarian roast-beef
d. Peanut butter and jelly served to an allergic kid via drone
e. A Soggy Shit sandwich
"e. A Soggy Shit sandwich"
Is that your final answer?
Tangential question, is soggy better than dry?
F. A bologna sandwich on white bread with a side of Cosby Jello for desert.
Ha. All zero AIBD members and 10 NAHB members in the state are going to rise up and prevail? Good luck to them.
A. although the sandwich bread would need to be made from scratch from clatsop county wheat and baked by balkins. the meat would need to be made from hogs raised in balkin's backyard (if appropriately zoned for agricultural use) and then fed a grass fed diet. slaughtering would be done by USDA standards in an approved facility by clatsop county health department. the assembly would be done by drones and monitored for accuracy with a theodolite and dial calipers. the paper wrapping would be from 100% post-consumer recycled paper made by hand in his basement under cottage industry special permit. the wrapping of the sandwich with the paper would be done in a USDA ASTM certified facility approved by clatsop county health department. consumption of said sandwich would be done wearing NSF rubber gloves. the rubber coming from sustainable sourced trees harvested by fair trade labor. consumption would occur in a clatsop county health department approved space with all necessary protections i.e.: sneeze guards, air curtains, FRP finishes, etc.
States will never get rid of sfr exemptions. Most states are trying to slim down on regs.
Lol +++no form
When NCBDC became separate from the AIBD, the National Council of Building Designer, Inc. was formed July 30th 1998 in Oklahoma as a DOMESTIC NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. The NCBDC acronym continued to be used.
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInformation.aspx?id=2100608293
Registered Agent: Bill G. Hefner.
I have a reply from the executive director from AIBD. He confirmed that as part of the merger, National Council of Building Designer Certification, Inc. was dissolved upon merger as it was merged into the American Institute of Building Design (a 501(c)6 District of Columbia registered non-profit corporation) in 2011.
Within the terms of the merger agreement, the AIBD then created a Designated Council with the name: National Council of Building Designer Certification. This council is a separate council than the AIBD's Board of Directors. The National Council of Building Designer Certification, within the AIBD, has its own governing board called the BOARD OF EXAMINERS. The Board of Examiners is authorized to make certain decisions like the AIBD's Board of Directors "but only on decisions that relates to the certification program".
Yes, there are for profit businesses in the world that uses the same NCBDC acronym. However, I was talking about the National Council of Building Designer Certification including "National Council of Building Designer Certification, Inc." not the National Cooperative Bank Development Corporation.
SpontaneousCombustion,
What state do you live in that has that few NAHB?
Rick you have an email from the executive director that contains the phrase "but only on decisions that relates to the certification program"? He writes worse than you do! You're doing the best job anybody could possibly do to make AIBD look like a bunch of morons. Consider that if any potential client ever does google "AIBD" or "NCBDC" they're going to find this thread.
This thread was funny. Now it's just sad. Like two vinyl single hung windows with a wood door entry on a blank wall sad.
Bloopox,
He isn't Shakesphere for gawd sake.
I'm not Hemmingway and you are no Dickens.
dickens was paid by the word.
why are you still going on about this?
Josh, You want big f---ing windows casting light into the live performance theater? It's a small theater. It's a Vaudville/Melodrama style theater program. The stage is in the rear of the main structure (C.M.U. constructed). It's about 20-ft. deep by about 38-ft. wide. Then you have the audience seating area. The front/northern side has the ticket booth, the projectionist area with the projecting light, the souvenir stand on the northwest corner and on the northeast corner the soda, popcorn and beer.
Like I said previously Rick, you should not have had an entry open directly into the performance space.
This is why you hire an architect.
curtkram,
My point to Bloopox is to quit expecting me to right eloquently. I am not a damn poet. I don't write to impress people in poetry and fancy writing. I took technical writing in college not poetry.
*write
"I don't write to impress people in poetry and fancy writing"
Ricky, you only write to impress yourself.
i don't think shakespere, dickens, or hemmingway were known as poets. percy shelley was, or john keats. those could be good examples.
you know who's a good poet is dylan thomas. he has great stuff. you should be reading that instead of this crap about alternative licensure or whatever it is you think you're doing.
if i recall, he did a show on bbc radio for a while. i bet you could search for it on you tube. you might not even have to read it, he could read it out loud for you.
what the fuck is this shit shit
what's more sad than balkin's vinyl theater farce is kangaroos drowning in water towers constructed by CPBD's working outside their jurisdiction.
Josh Ming,
This is a small theater. They were in a building before hand where the doors opens directly. There isn't a bog lobby area Josh. They didn't have that in its prior space. They had to lease the property, finance the remodeling and collect money to purchase the property. They didn't have a budget. If they hired an architect, they would be closed. Why?
Architects like yourself wants to make the project big. They always go over budget and go with champaigne taste. Sorry, when you have a beer budget, you don't buy champaigne and fancy wine. You buy a case of bud lite.
In order for there to be what you suggested, they would have to build a lobby with new ticket booth at that location, and of course some additional permanent restrooms. You have maybe 15' x 50' to maybe 75-ft. of area to add. Assuming a 750 sq.ft. addition. At about an RS Means estimate.... you are probably looking at around $150/sq.ft. construction cost. That's $112,500. A $112,500 that they didn't have. Those windows are easily removable and replace the few sheets of T-111,batten strips, underlayment, etc. It doesn't cost that much.
The project was in part frustrating because I didn't even have a budget presented to me by the client. NO ARCHITECT even came forward. Guess what, I even sought out an architect. Not only one but three local architects. None of them wanted to touch this project.
The door you see in the front is an exit for emergency exit. Okay. That is why it is there.
People enter in from the east side of the building. The performance area is on the stage. NO DOOR enters directly on to the stage.
We had 9 months TOTAL time. I even told them, from the get go, they will need an architect for any addition to the building or increase in height of the building. This is a small theater. There isn't physically enough room in just under 4000 sq.ft. to have a "lobby". They didn't have a "lobby" even in the previous location they were at.
Balkins get a job
You should never design
Rick you are so sick
Not my best haiku but hey. I ain't no fancy college poet.
Architects with small budgets come up with creative solutions. They know how to make a big design move with a small budget.
You just see small budget and assume there are no possibilities to do something special.
Balkins your mind set is exactly why there is so much shit littering the planet.
or they look at the windows on every other building on the block. . .
The thing that's more worrying about that theater is that Balkins once posted a full description of the stage assembly in one of these threads - and when it was pointed out to him that the decking didn't meet minimum code requirements he then suddenly "remembered" that he actually used decking that was a quarter inch thicker than he'd said. Not that I was surprised by that - Rick has a long history of "suddenly remembering" the opposite of whatever he just said whenever it's pointed out that he's criminally wrong. It does make me worry about the community theater actors - I hope whatever they're doing this season doesn't require enthusiastic dancing.
Rick I didn't say that you need to write eloquently. I said that the person who wrote the phrase that you provided in quotes is a poor writer. Are you saying that you actually wrote that yourself? That is what I suspected from the recognizable pattern of bad grammar, and you seem to be admitting it. If you want to convey any credible information on this forum about AIBD and NCBDC you should suggest to the executive director that he create his own account and provide that information himself. We can't believe anything you write.
Fuck the dancers, I just hope that there aren't any kangaroos jumping around on that stage!
Rick, I work for a firm that specializes in affordable housing. I work with small budgets regularly. We get creative and make good buildings and design that work within these budgets. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Also, I want to see a kangaroo chorus line. Someone make Australia the Musical, stat. Get Russell Crowe on the phone.
I want to see a kangaroo rendition of the road warrior. Shit that would be amazing. We could hire a licensed architect in Australia to design a proper vinyl free stage that would support the live load of dancing kangaroos.
JLA-x and josh let's call may marsupial awareness month.