If I remember correctly suffix A or B in defining construction type refers to sprinklered versus non sprinklered. For the life of me I cannot find where this is defined. Any insight appreciated. IBC 2009.
JLC-1
Mar 2, 15 6:42 pm
page 89
JeromeS
Mar 2, 15 6:51 pm
A or B is protected or unprotected -
You can have protected or unprotected construction irrespective of fire suppression...
SneakyPete
Mar 2, 15 6:58 pm
"Type A" buildings are ambitious, rigidly organized, highly status-conscious, sensitive, impatient, anxious, proactive, and concerned with time management.
"Type B" buildings live at a lower stress level and typically work steadily, enjoying achievement but not becoming stressed when they do not achieve. They may be creative and enjoy exploring ideas and concepts. They are often reflective.
shellarchitect
Mar 2, 15 9:48 pm
all buildings have a little A-ness somewhere
Janosh
Mar 2, 15 11:23 pm
JeromeS is correct. But SneakyPete is right.
On the fence
Mar 3, 15 2:25 pm
See table 601 of the 2006 IBC. Not certain what table it is in 2009.
Hourly ratings for walls, floors, etc
Nothing to do with sprinklers unless footnote e applies
wurdan freo
Mar 5, 15 2:01 pm
For the life of me, I still can't find it. Ive read all of chapter 5 multiple times. Is there somewhere that specifically says A= protected B= unprotected? Please hurry... I'm running out of lives!!!
JLC-1
Mar 5, 15 2:31 pm
told you, page 89 ibc 2009, table 601
On the fence
Mar 5, 15 2:34 pm
That is because you want it to be that simplified. The code does not state protected or unprotected.
It gives you several tables. The first that you should look at is in chapter 5 for allowable height and building areas. Then look at chapter 6 for fire resistance rating requirements.
So if you have a restaurant and it is 7000 sq. ft. you cant be a type 5b building, unless you either have an area modification due to frontage increases and sprinkler systems. So then you need to go to a type 5a building and you go to chapter 6 and find table 601 which gives you your fire ratings.
proto
Mar 5, 15 2:59 pm
Table 601 shows "0" for the req'd rating for all the B line items and shows "1" for most the A line items (with a footnote to allow sprinklers instead in many cases)
hammerhead
Oct 16, 17 1:01 am
Difference between A an B is nothing more than time.
hammerhead
Oct 16, 17 1:04 am
New to this forum and hadn't figured out how to edit but just wanted to add that sprinkler designations are found in 903.
kevmanderson
Oct 15, 18 6:11 pm
You might be looking for Table 508.3.3 (required separation of occupancies) in IBC 2006. It shows mixed occupancy separations utilizing sprinklered vs non-sprinklered.
ZSZSZS
Sep 21, 22 8:52 am
The two broad categories, A and B, are based on the inherent fire resistance of the material and the degree of fire protection applied over the structural member. "A" denotes protected while "B" is unprotected.
rafaelparedes
Sep 4, 23 10:42 am
Ok, so A is protected, B is Unprotected.
What counts as protected? Meaning, does the material have to be covered with protection or can sprinklers count as "protected structure"?
If I remember correctly suffix A or B in defining construction type refers to sprinklered versus non sprinklered. For the life of me I cannot find where this is defined. Any insight appreciated. IBC 2009.
page 89
A or B is protected or unprotected -
You can have protected or unprotected construction irrespective of fire suppression...
"Type A" buildings are ambitious, rigidly organized, highly status-conscious, sensitive, impatient, anxious, proactive, and concerned with time management.
"Type B" buildings live at a lower stress level and typically work steadily, enjoying achievement but not becoming stressed when they do not achieve. They may be creative and enjoy exploring ideas and concepts. They are often reflective.
all buildings have a little A-ness somewhere
JeromeS is correct. But SneakyPete is right.
See table 601 of the 2006 IBC. Not certain what table it is in 2009.
Hourly ratings for walls, floors, etc
Nothing to do with sprinklers unless footnote e applies
For the life of me, I still can't find it. Ive read all of chapter 5 multiple times. Is there somewhere that specifically says A= protected B= unprotected? Please hurry... I'm running out of lives!!!
told you, page 89 ibc 2009, table 601
That is because you want it to be that simplified. The code does not state protected or unprotected.
It gives you several tables. The first that you should look at is in chapter 5 for allowable height and building areas. Then look at chapter 6 for fire resistance rating requirements.
So if you have a restaurant and it is 7000 sq. ft. you cant be a type 5b building, unless you either have an area modification due to frontage increases and sprinkler systems. So then you need to go to a type 5a building and you go to chapter 6 and find table 601 which gives you your fire ratings.
Table 601 shows "0" for the req'd rating for all the B line items and shows "1" for most the A line items (with a footnote to allow sprinklers instead in many cases)
Difference between A an B is nothing more than time.
New to this forum and hadn't figured out how to edit but just wanted to add that sprinkler designations are found in 903.
You might be looking for Table 508.3.3 (required separation of occupancies) in IBC 2006. It shows mixed occupancy separations utilizing sprinklered vs non-sprinklered.
The two broad categories, A and B, are based on the inherent fire resistance of the material and the degree of fire protection applied over the structural member. "A" denotes protected while "B" is unprotected.
Ok, so A is protected, B is Unprotected.
What counts as protected? Meaning, does the material have to be covered with protection or can sprinklers count as "protected structure"?
sprinklers do not count as protection