What would you build with 700,000 tons of concrete?
Non Sequitur
Sep 30, 14 11:35 pm
Is is solid or ready to be cast?
700K tons = 635 million Kg
635 Million Kg = 264 000m^3
264 000m^3 = 62m x 62m x62m shape.
I'd build one helluva cool shelf for my coffee mug.
jdbz
Sep 30, 14 11:56 pm
Ready to be cast... but we can stick with 2,400 Kg/m^3 for the density. So your numbers above will work.
jdbz
Oct 1, 14 12:05 am
...nice shelf by the way.
SuperKing
Oct 1, 14 4:35 am
When life offers you tons of concrete, make some lemonade.
SuperKing
Oct 1, 14 6:05 am
Btw, is this a thesis project or a PhD?
awaiting_deletion
Oct 1, 14 7:43 am
Massive Candela engineered dome
Donna Sink
Oct 1, 14 8:24 am
I'd take a new monument on the DC Mall: build a large square of formwork, 8' high. Gather every Congressperson and other politician into a big circle in the middle of the formwork and fill it. Then break it in half, hollow out the forms (our legislature likely won't survive this process), and leave it as a monument to the empty shells of human form that our politicians are.
Hell, to save material the formwork could be just 7' tall, or even a little shorter. It's not like these people are giants among men or anything. But it's very important that they be in a circle facing one another, because they sure as heck don't pay attention to anyone else.
Miles Jaffe
Oct 1, 14 9:02 am
An alternate to Donna's idea that is a bit more direct is to wait until a State of the Union when the president is addressing a joint session of congress and the Supreme Court, then fill the Hall of the House of Representatives solid with concrete, making the building itself an impenetrable monument.
The leftover material material could be similarly used to entomb the K Street, the Bilderberg conference, Federal Reserve meeting, NATO summit, Trans Pacific Partnership conference, The Pentagon, Wall Street .... crap, 700,000 tons won't be enough.
To conserve material we should just make concrete galoshes for the deserving. Probably still need more mix, though.
subgenius
Oct 1, 14 9:35 am
700,000 tons? (that is about 20,000 truck loads)...would this be a single pour situation or can I work in a variety of lifts?
Do I need to provide the form work and/or reinforcing steel?
(FYI, this quantity is about what is used for the Portuges Dam in Puerto Rico)
Donna Sink
Oct 1, 14 9:52 am
Oooh, Miles your idea is way better. Entombs the buildings, as well, so the new leaders who emerge in the aftermath could function in a tent city, like Occupy. Which is a FAR preferable form of government than the one we have now!
Of course the concrete galoshes idea could have the side benefit of promoting the regrowth of ocean reefs? Except the poisonous flesh of the politicians might be more harmful to the fish - we'd have to do a net gain/loss analysis.
jdbz
Oct 1, 14 9:47 pm
SuperKing,
This is not for a thesis project or PhD.
subgenius,
The concrete would be distributed over a 10 year period. You would be provided with a typical formwork and reinforcing steel budget.
CD.Arch
Oct 1, 14 9:52 pm
Fun question, idk how much would be needed for the foundation of an average home. Re-foundation homes in places such as tornado alley or other places where earthquakes etc are common. Or reinforce these homes. A little spendier but it's better than rebuilding your home every ten years or so.
drums please, Fab?
Oct 1, 14 10:04 pm
hey D & number 2: vote out yer congresspersons and senatorpersons regardless of party affiliation k thks bye
snooker-doodle-dandy
Oct 1, 14 10:44 pm
I had a 2 guys pour 16 yards of concrete for a footing foundation just the other day.
I told him it was the easiest 16 yard pour I had ever encountered.
jdbz
Oct 1, 14 11:54 pm
CD.Arch,
Using this concrete calculator I came up with about 10,000 1600sqft 8" thick foundations (1778 80lb bags per):
After giving this some thought, I'd like to revise my coffee mug shelf. Instead, I would turn find a way to cast a 80m dia sphere (total volume = 263,000m3) and let it roll around...somehow.
subgenius
Oct 2, 14 8:53 am
oddly enough this is the amount of concrete VietNam will export this year....export.
But the Romans built the Coliseum with 700,000 tons of concrete (mostly on the foundation)...i suppose the steel allowance will just be a credit back.
Miles Jaffe
Oct 2, 14 11:04 am
9,323,072 ft³ of concrete.
I propose using it to pave a 12" deep, 18' wide strip as a median the entire length of the Capital Beltway that surrounds Washington D.C. Those selected for concrete galoshes would be placed into this strip at 18" on center and supported vertically by a 7' length of 1/2" rebar.
This will allow us to plant 1,553,845 deserving candidates. That would cover the three branches of government, all the lobbyists in DC, the half-million or so other elected officials across the country, former elected and appointed government officials, corporate CEOs, etc. with material left for about a million more which could be selected by popular vote. Runoff voting may be necessary to reduce the size of the pool as space is limited.
After a fairly short period of time Washington would be encircled with a 64 mile long unbroken ring of vertical skeletons 18' wide.
When can we start?
Non Sequitur
Oct 2, 14 11:43 am
Vlad the impaler, is that you?
Miles Jaffe
Oct 2, 14 1:44 pm
I had only considered the using rebar for postmortem structural support. But to each his own.
jdbz
Oct 5, 14 1:11 am
Olaf,
I like the floating island idea. When you say "floating," do you mean floating on water, or having the appearance of floating?
awaiting_deletion
Oct 5, 14 11:12 pm
both...tomorrow night when I watch some Monday Night Football and have a few left over brews from the party I'll sketch in 3dsMax....both
awaiting_deletion
Oct 10, 14 9:59 pm
jdbz I apologize for the delay...watching Friday Night Football, not Monday
Stanford 17 vs Wash St 7
5th Rolling Rock (Latrobe Brewery)
this is based on Non Sequiter's 264 000m^3 = 62m x 62m x62m shape.
Nam Henderson
Oct 14, 14 7:54 pm
where does "my coffee mug" go ?
awaiting_deletion
Oct 14, 14 8:44 pm
very top corner? no?
Non Sequitur
Oct 15, 14 7:48 am
Sweet sweet jesus in a can Olaf, that is just awesome.
awaiting_deletion
Oct 16, 14 7:41 pm
RFI #001:
'sweet sweet Jesus in a can' - Architect/Engineer to provide additional specifications and details to clarify.
awaiting_deletion
Oct 16, 14 9:32 pm
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jdbz
Oct 20, 14 8:16 pm
Yes awesome! Much more so than what I imagined (my phone/app is not letting me paste an image):
Sorry I'm just getting back. I've been busy and on vacation. Thanks for posting Olaf!
awaiting_deletion
Oct 20, 14 10:01 pm
i will post it for you.
Nice!
Non Sequitur
Oct 21, 14 8:24 am
Olaf, I don't think that guard-rail is up to code...
awaiting_deletion
Oct 21, 14 8:46 am
can it be glass, there was a thread on the glass.
but what is a sweet sweet can of jesus? should this be incorporated into the rail design?
Non Sequitur
Oct 21, 14 9:13 am
The rails are to hold the public away from the glorious tuna can which may, or may not, contain said jesus. I will need to read my specs before I give a more definitive answer.
What would you build with 700,000 tons of concrete?
Is is solid or ready to be cast?
700K tons = 635 million Kg
635 Million Kg = 264 000m^3
264 000m^3 = 62m x 62m x62m shape.
I'd build one helluva cool shelf for my coffee mug.
Ready to be cast... but we can stick with 2,400 Kg/m^3 for the density. So your numbers above will work.
...nice shelf by the way.
When life offers you tons of concrete, make some lemonade.
Btw, is this a thesis project or a PhD?
Massive Candela engineered dome
I'd take a new monument on the DC Mall: build a large square of formwork, 8' high. Gather every Congressperson and other politician into a big circle in the middle of the formwork and fill it. Then break it in half, hollow out the forms (our legislature likely won't survive this process), and leave it as a monument to the empty shells of human form that our politicians are.
Hell, to save material the formwork could be just 7' tall, or even a little shorter. It's not like these people are giants among men or anything. But it's very important that they be in a circle facing one another, because they sure as heck don't pay attention to anyone else.
An alternate to Donna's idea that is a bit more direct is to wait until a State of the Union when the president is addressing a joint session of congress and the Supreme Court, then fill the Hall of the House of Representatives solid with concrete, making the building itself an impenetrable monument.
The leftover material material could be similarly used to entomb the K Street, the Bilderberg conference, Federal Reserve meeting, NATO summit, Trans Pacific Partnership conference, The Pentagon, Wall Street .... crap, 700,000 tons won't be enough.
To conserve material we should just make concrete galoshes for the deserving. Probably still need more mix, though.
700,000 tons? (that is about 20,000 truck loads)...would this be a single pour situation or can I work in a variety of lifts?
Do I need to provide the form work and/or reinforcing steel?
(FYI, this quantity is about what is used for the Portuges Dam in Puerto Rico)
Oooh, Miles your idea is way better. Entombs the buildings, as well, so the new leaders who emerge in the aftermath could function in a tent city, like Occupy. Which is a FAR preferable form of government than the one we have now!
Of course the concrete galoshes idea could have the side benefit of promoting the regrowth of ocean reefs? Except the poisonous flesh of the politicians might be more harmful to the fish - we'd have to do a net gain/loss analysis.
SuperKing,
This is not for a thesis project or PhD.
subgenius,
The concrete would be distributed over a 10 year period. You would be provided with a typical formwork and reinforcing steel budget.
Fun question, idk how much would be needed for the foundation of an average home. Re-foundation homes in places such as tornado alley or other places where earthquakes etc are common. Or reinforce these homes. A little spendier but it's better than rebuilding your home every ten years or so.
hey D & number 2: vote out yer congresspersons and senatorpersons regardless of party affiliation k thks bye
I had a 2 guys pour 16 yards of concrete for a footing foundation just the other day.
I told him it was the easiest 16 yard pour I had ever encountered.
CD.Arch,
Using this concrete calculator I came up with about 10,000 1600sqft 8" thick foundations (1778 80lb bags per):
http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/howmuch/calculator.htm
Build a floating island
After giving this some thought, I'd like to revise my coffee mug shelf. Instead, I would turn find a way to cast a 80m dia sphere (total volume = 263,000m3) and let it roll around...somehow.
oddly enough this is the amount of concrete VietNam will export this year....export.
Also the goal of a new plant in Lampung
http://www.cemweek.com/news/volume-a-pricing/10779-vietnam-to-export-700000-tons-of-cement-this-year
But the Romans built the Coliseum with 700,000 tons of concrete (mostly on the foundation)...i suppose the steel allowance will just be a credit back.
9,323,072 ft³ of concrete.
I propose using it to pave a 12" deep, 18' wide strip as a median the entire length of the Capital Beltway that surrounds Washington D.C. Those selected for concrete galoshes would be placed into this strip at 18" on center and supported vertically by a 7' length of 1/2" rebar.
This will allow us to plant 1,553,845 deserving candidates. That would cover the three branches of government, all the lobbyists in DC, the half-million or so other elected officials across the country, former elected and appointed government officials, corporate CEOs, etc. with material left for about a million more which could be selected by popular vote. Runoff voting may be necessary to reduce the size of the pool as space is limited.
After a fairly short period of time Washington would be encircled with a 64 mile long unbroken ring of vertical skeletons 18' wide.
When can we start?
Vlad the impaler, is that you?
I had only considered the using rebar for postmortem structural support. But to each his own.
Olaf,
I like the floating island idea. When you say "floating," do you mean floating on water, or having the appearance of floating?
both...tomorrow night when I watch some Monday Night Football and have a few left over brews from the party I'll sketch in 3dsMax....both
jdbz I apologize for the delay...watching Friday Night Football, not Monday
Stanford 17 vs Wash St 7
5th Rolling Rock (Latrobe Brewery)
this is based on Non Sequiter's 264 000m^3 = 62m x 62m x62m shape.
where does "my coffee mug" go ?
very top corner? no?
Sweet sweet jesus in a can Olaf, that is just awesome.
RFI #001:
'sweet sweet Jesus in a can' - Architect/Engineer to provide additional specifications and details to clarify.
Yes awesome! Much more so than what I imagined (my phone/app is not letting me paste an image):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TNwEV29xohw/ThYEoKgNWVI/AAAAAAAACro/UF1hHzMuk3M/s1600/floating+structure-3.JPG
Sorry I'm just getting back. I've been busy and on vacation. Thanks for posting Olaf!
i will post it for you.
Nice!
Olaf, I don't think that guard-rail is up to code...
can it be glass, there was a thread on the glass.
but what is a sweet sweet can of jesus? should this be incorporated into the rail design?
The rails are to hold the public away from the glorious tuna can which may, or may not, contain said jesus. I will need to read my specs before I give a more definitive answer.
specs: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/spray-on-jesus-photo_n_370827.html
haha threadkilla, brilliant, i'll work it in....footballs on and i'm half working, this takes dedication.
There ain't a problem that can't be fixed by spraying a little Jesus on it.