evidence of the very high likelihood, if not certainty, that the 'european diseases' were deliberately spread by the form of smallpox infected blankets, i'e. biological warfare on a massive scale. also plans to to train dogs to hunt down indians - but they didn't have enough dogs and eventually smallpox and co proved more effective anyway.
The number of Native Americans quickly shrank by roughly half following European contact about 500 years ago, according to a new genetic study.
The finding supports historical accounts that Europeans triggered a wave of disease, warfare, and enslavement in the New World that had devastating effects for indigenous populations across the Americas.
you needn't react so personally because i criticize a tradition that you either maintain out of stupidity and ignorance or out of complete inhumane nonchalance. your tradition celebrates a genocide, nothing less. i'm not attacking you personally. draw your own conclusions about whether you wish to remain nonchalant.
Fuck!!! I started this thread to see what people (Americans) were doing on Thanksgiving day, largely for what they'd be eating and who they'd be breaking bread with.
Then, with the discourse that followed, it only goes to show that architects can't agree ... on anything.
Assured by the U.S. Government's promises of peace, most of the warriors were off hunting buffalo, leaving only around 60 men, and women and children in the village. Most of the men were too old or too young to hunt. Black Kettle flew an American flag over his lodge, since previously the officers had said this would show he was friendly and prevent attack by U.S. soldiers.[17]
Setting out from Fort Lyon, Chivington and his 700 troops of the 1st Colorado Cavalry, 3rd Colorado Cavalry and a company of the 1st Regiment New Mexico Volunteer Cavalry marched to Black Kettle's campsite. James Beckwourth, noted frontiersman, acted as a guide for Chivington.[18] On the night of November 28, soldiers and militia drank heavily and celebrated their anticipated victory.[19] On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack. Two officers, Captain Silas Soule and Lieutenant Joseph Cramer, commanding the First Colorado Cavalry companies D and K, respectively, refused to follow Chivington's order and told their men to hold fire.[20]
Other soldiers in Chivington's force, however, immediately attacked the village. Disregarding the American flag, and a white flag that was run up shortly after the soldiers commenced firing, Chivington's soldiers massacred many of its inhabitants.
I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
—- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[21]
Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...
—- Stan Hoig[22]
Jis to think of that dog Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer 'spose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don't like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I've fought 'em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
—- Kit Carson[23]
gwharton accuses me others of revisionist history. it is him or her and his or her ilk who revise history to suit their sanitized view of the shameful origins of the US that annually celebrates the death and devastation of many people. the way s/he paints native americans is racist and completely unrealistic. by no stretch of imagination can one even bring any and all backlash by the native americans to equal the heinous mass-scale crimes of the so called 'forefathers'
Nov 19, 13 11:27 pm ·
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natives may have been fucked by whity, but it's over. If folks want to get their panties in a bunch about the plight of indignoose peeples then maybe look towards some that are still here. A bunch are featured in this handsum new book befour they pass away.
Nov 20, 13 10:23 am ·
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oh, and as foru Thanksgiving dinner, I think I'l go cannibal this year and eat a native. If i can find one to roast. But i'm probaly stuck with turkey like everyone else.
you're full of shit tammuz. the sand creek massacre was in colorado, which wasn't even part of the united states when the pilgrims landed on plymouth rock. it was generations later. i understand some of the stories children are hearing about thanksgiving are not accurate, and that should be fixed. but what you're saying is nothing but a bunch of useless shit.
you've already said you believe there was a meeting, with food, between a native american tribe and european settlers, and they agreed to peace for a while. be thankful for the peace you have while you have it.
who were your ancestors? why don't you tell us about them, and the people they killed, and the people they enslaved? because it turns out, war and slavery are not limited to white people.
actually, i'm just kidding. continue to hide behind the hate and vitriol you project on everyone else, since you're so much better than us sinners. i'll just go feel bad about the part i played in something that happened long before i was born, long before my forefathers even immigrated to this country.
I see this as a harvest festival. heck I suppose it's the same that some people see Pearl Harbor Day as a victory celebration (sort of) and others a dark day of remembrance. Meh, just be sure that your representative government doesn't make the same horrible mistakes on your behalf, right?
Turkey: I'm going to try one of the heirloom bronzes this year - usually brine in an orange juice + cranberry juice mixture (gives it an extra color) with anise/allspice/thyme/rosemary/salt/peppers.
Potatoes: might stick with a mashed idaho taters; though I did a sweet potatoe mash with curry and chutney which was pretty darn good a few years back.
Beans: very lightly sauteed in butter and tossed in the oven with red pepper flakes, honey and maybe some cheese.
Orzo salad: fall veggies, honey and lemon juice.
Pie: pumpkin and a bourbon maple chocolate pecan pie - based on Paula Deen's
LOL at tammuz doubling down on his ignorant, foolish sentimentality about the Indians. The hate is strong with this one.
I've got a Thanksgiving recipe secret for those interested.
If you're making pie crust from scratch (which is the best way and not that difficult, so DO EET), substitute vodka for half the water called for in the recipe. This will give you an amazingly light, flaky crust that has to be tasted to be believed. You need liquid to make the crust dough hold together and be spreadable, but water in the dough causes the formation of gluten protein strings which cause it to get dense and chewy. Alcohol does not cause these protein chains to form (SCIENCE!). You do need some gluten chains to give the crust shape though, so don't go too far with the vodka substitution. Half is just about right.
Bonus tip: if the crust is for a pumpkin pie, use whipped-cream flavored vodka (the only thing it's good for). You can thank me later.
Meh, I'll be sitting down to tofurkey with Kanye and Kim, contemplating which fake passport to get, and wondering how America got to be the only place in history to perform ethnic cleansing.
Roast turkey with cranberry jalapeno sauce and a good bottle of Antinori Chianti.
Did you know that the turkey was Benjamin Franklin's choice for national symbol? If things had been different, we might be sitting down to a nice roast Bald Eagle.
Turkey, samuel adams cherry wheat, stuffing, green beans and everything else that i see that is edible. Other than stuffing my face and drinking i will be watching the thanksgiving football game and o yeah eating lots of sweet potato pie.
I see. It seems that Svetlana has replaced "Olga from the Volga" as the go-to name. Moscow reportedly has some metro stations that look like the lobbies of 5 star hotels. May she be music to your ears ...
Thinking I'll head down to Foxwoods Casino and do some gaming.....Tammuz, by the way it is owned by the Pequot Indians. They don't close for any Holidays! Wish me Lady Luck...They claim to be the largest Casino in the world.
I can see a few snide or hijacking comments, but not the monopolization of a thread about a time for family and friends, most of whom would be contrite about past transgressions if sufficiently informed.
And, I'd like to add, NONE of this is based on religious, historical, and political differences, since I largely don't give a shit about them in my small life.
Cross the border tomorrow, and help yourself to an extravagant, though not necessarily extravagantly priced, buffet - one that includes turkey and cranberry sauce - and party with us Americans.
I used to think you were melodramatic, passionate (only in terms of personality), and even funny. Now, I think you're excessive, prickly, and even annoying.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone else, and those who share these sentiments. In some time zones, it IS Thanksgiving Day.
for the many of you have made fun of native americans and their affairs, using them as a way of mocking my posts on this thread and thus disclosing their racism (noting that gwharton was a unique case of an extreme expression of racism) :
I imagine Tammuz to be that kid at a birthday party screaming at the top of his lungs because everyone is paying attention to the birthday boy instead of him.... and throw in a little aspergers.
"The genocide begun in 1637 marks the beginning of the conquest of the entire continent until most Native Americans were exterminated, a few were assimilated into white society, and the rest were put in reservations to dwindle and die.
In other words, to celebrate Thanksgiving in the US is like setting aside a day in Germany to celebrate the Holocaust.Thanksgiving is the American Holocaust. "
Bought veggies for our thanksgiving feast today (fondue and salad) from the Indian store. Playing board games with the family now. Happy thanksgiving everyone!!
I stained my lips blood red with cranberry sauce just now. Good stuff. Followed that with pumpkin pie. The detroit game was pretty good despite half a dozen turn-overs. Hopefully oakland gets their shit together.
Now we could talk about how concussions, lack of oversight at the high school level, and growing concern from parents are going to eventually kill football. Looking forward to thanksgiving rugby some day in the future.
Happy thanksgiving to everyone that wants to be happy
Oh my God, the worst effin' buffet today, at a place that has delivered before. Everybody in the party was uninspired. I sat there wondering if my prospective Harrah's lunch buffet in New Orleans for $15.99 could possibly rival this place's dismal experience, which wasn't exactly cheap. I am now considering a fixed menu lunch place in NOLA.
Buffets (Easter, Mother's Day, and Thanksgiving) which were good once upon a time are plummeting in quality. I wonder if it's them or me.
Thanksgiving dinners held at home are always better, although they have less to choose from.
I'm in Europe but my friends still cooked some turkey for us - everyone says the ovens over here are too small for a full sized turkey. We didn't take any chances so went for something a bit smaller. For anyone interested in the facts behind Thanksgiving, check this out - apparently Americans eat 736 million pounds of turkey every Thanksgiving: http://www.statista.com/topics/760/united-states/chart/1665/happy-thanksgiving/
We talked about personality types at our Thanksgiving. It was pretty cool. It is hard to have 14 people in one house for 4 days, you have to develop strategies for making things run smoothly.
We talked about personality types at our Thanksgiving. It was pretty cool. It is hard to have 14 people in one house for 4 days, you have to develop strategies for making things run smoothly.
Did you have to provide indoctrination on the 16 MB types, or were people already conversant on this topic? Since *STJs are the most common types, were there many in attendance, which could have added to the stress ... assuming you don't roll with them as well as with other more mellow types? Yes, this is interesting.
Turkeys ~ big, dumb chickens. I hear they are very stupid creatures.
We didn't do MB, just talked about what made people happy and what stressed them out, we did use some MB language as everyone was familiar with it. This was my in-laws, no *STJ's.
I imagine Tammuz to be that kid at a birthday party screaming at the top of his lungs because everyone is paying attention to the birthday boy instead of him....
This has probably been the best post so far. I was thinking the exact same thing after this was verbalized. However, we don't have a "like" feature on here.
What's everyone doing for Thanksgiving? That is, if you're in the U.S.
evidence of the very high likelihood, if not certainty, that the 'european diseases' were deliberately spread by the form of smallpox infected blankets, i'e. biological warfare on a massive scale. also plans to to train dogs to hunt down indians - but they didn't have enough dogs and eventually smallpox and co proved more effective anyway.
+++ snook
and the result?
The number of Native Americans quickly shrank by roughly half following European contact about 500 years ago, according to a new genetic study.
The finding supports historical accounts that Europeans triggered a wave of disease, warfare, and enslavement in the New World that had devastating effects for indigenous populations across the Americas.
tammuz is apparently thankful for all the hate and violence in the world, so he's trying to spread more of it to the rest of us....
you needn't react so personally because i criticize a tradition that you either maintain out of stupidity and ignorance or out of complete inhumane nonchalance. your tradition celebrates a genocide, nothing less. i'm not attacking you personally. draw your own conclusions about whether you wish to remain nonchalant.
Fuck!!! I started this thread to see what people (Americans) were doing on Thanksgiving day, largely for what they'd be eating and who they'd be breaking bread with.
Then, with the discourse that followed, it only goes to show that architects can't agree ... on anything.
Any menus or recipes worth sharing?
how about a few hundred innocent peace loving Wiyot men, women, and children? will that appease your appetite?
The Sand Creek Massacre
Assured by the U.S. Government's promises of peace, most of the warriors were off hunting buffalo, leaving only around 60 men, and women and children in the village. Most of the men were too old or too young to hunt. Black Kettle flew an American flag over his lodge, since previously the officers had said this would show he was friendly and prevent attack by U.S. soldiers.[17]
Setting out from Fort Lyon, Chivington and his 700 troops of the 1st Colorado Cavalry, 3rd Colorado Cavalry and a company of the 1st Regiment New Mexico Volunteer Cavalry marched to Black Kettle's campsite. James Beckwourth, noted frontiersman, acted as a guide for Chivington.[18] On the night of November 28, soldiers and militia drank heavily and celebrated their anticipated victory.[19] On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack. Two officers, Captain Silas Soule and Lieutenant Joseph Cramer, commanding the First Colorado Cavalry companies D and K, respectively, refused to follow Chivington's order and told their men to hold fire.[20]
Other soldiers in Chivington's force, however, immediately attacked the village. Disregarding the American flag, and a white flag that was run up shortly after the soldiers commenced firing, Chivington's soldiers massacred many of its inhabitants.
I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...
—- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[21]
Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...
—- Stan Hoig[22]
Jis to think of that dog Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer 'spose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don't like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I've fought 'em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
—- Kit Carson[23]
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gwharton accuses me others of revisionist history. it is him or her and his or her ilk who revise history to suit their sanitized view of the shameful origins of the US that annually celebrates the death and devastation of many people. the way s/he paints native americans is racist and completely unrealistic. by no stretch of imagination can one even bring any and all backlash by the native americans to equal the heinous mass-scale crimes of the so called 'forefathers'
natives may have been fucked by whity, but it's over. If folks want to get their panties in a bunch about the plight of indignoose peeples then maybe look towards some that are still here. A bunch are featured in this handsum new book befour they pass away.
oh, and as foru Thanksgiving dinner, I think I'l go cannibal this year and eat a native. If i can find one to roast. But i'm probaly stuck with turkey like everyone else.
you're full of shit tammuz. the sand creek massacre was in colorado, which wasn't even part of the united states when the pilgrims landed on plymouth rock. it was generations later. i understand some of the stories children are hearing about thanksgiving are not accurate, and that should be fixed. but what you're saying is nothing but a bunch of useless shit.
you've already said you believe there was a meeting, with food, between a native american tribe and european settlers, and they agreed to peace for a while. be thankful for the peace you have while you have it.
who were your ancestors? why don't you tell us about them, and the people they killed, and the people they enslaved? because it turns out, war and slavery are not limited to white people.
actually, i'm just kidding. continue to hide behind the hate and vitriol you project on everyone else, since you're so much better than us sinners. i'll just go feel bad about the part i played in something that happened long before i was born, long before my forefathers even immigrated to this country.
I see this as a harvest festival. heck I suppose it's the same that some people see Pearl Harbor Day as a victory celebration (sort of) and others a dark day of remembrance. Meh, just be sure that your representative government doesn't make the same horrible mistakes on your behalf, right?
Turkey: I'm going to try one of the heirloom bronzes this year - usually brine in an orange juice + cranberry juice mixture (gives it an extra color) with anise/allspice/thyme/rosemary/salt/peppers.
Potatoes: might stick with a mashed idaho taters; though I did a sweet potatoe mash with curry and chutney which was pretty darn good a few years back.
Beans: very lightly sauteed in butter and tossed in the oven with red pepper flakes, honey and maybe some cheese.
Orzo salad: fall veggies, honey and lemon juice.
Pie: pumpkin and a bourbon maple chocolate pecan pie - based on Paula Deen's
Appetizer: bacon wrapped dates with brown sugar.
LOL at tammuz doubling down on his ignorant, foolish sentimentality about the Indians. The hate is strong with this one.
I've got a Thanksgiving recipe secret for those interested.
If you're making pie crust from scratch (which is the best way and not that difficult, so DO EET), substitute vodka for half the water called for in the recipe. This will give you an amazingly light, flaky crust that has to be tasted to be believed. You need liquid to make the crust dough hold together and be spreadable, but water in the dough causes the formation of gluten protein strings which cause it to get dense and chewy. Alcohol does not cause these protein chains to form (SCIENCE!). You do need some gluten chains to give the crust shape though, so don't go too far with the vodka substitution. Half is just about right.
Bonus tip: if the crust is for a pumpkin pie, use whipped-cream flavored vodka (the only thing it's good for). You can thank me later.
I do have to admit, without $Hansum$ and Tammuz this site would be alot more boring.
I will have enough guilt from all pie and stuffing...no room for white guilt.
Anyway, Tammuz do you celebrate your birthday or do you mourn because of the fact that your birth increased the carbon footprint of humanity?
+++ jla-x
gwharton: sounds delish! will have to try... even if it means being seen buying a bottle of whipped-cream vodka...
you can buy whipped cream vodka on thanksgiving. it's part of the thanksgiving miracle. that's why squanto died for our sins.
Ahahahaha this thread only keeps getting better. Bordering on an archinect classic. Well done, everyone!!!
Meh, I'll be sitting down to tofurkey with Kanye and Kim, contemplating which fake passport to get, and wondering how America got to be the only place in history to perform ethnic cleansing.
fake passport of Central African Rep...what I always wanted to eat camel! Take me to Africa for Thanksgiving!
Roast turkey with cranberry jalapeno sauce and a good bottle of Antinori Chianti.
Did you know that the turkey was Benjamin Franklin's choice for national symbol? If things had been different, we might be sitting down to a nice roast Bald Eagle.
Turkey, samuel adams cherry wheat, stuffing, green beans and everything else that i see that is edible. Other than stuffing my face and drinking i will be watching the thanksgiving football game and o yeah eating lots of sweet potato pie.
Listening to some nice music ...
A local brewery made some Cranberry Ginger Blonde Ale that really should go nicely with the turkey dinner I will be housing.
VPN access to office server from PEETs - got a submital next week
Listening to some nice music ..
I see. It seems that Svetlana has replaced "Olga from the Volga" as the go-to name. Moscow reportedly has some metro stations that look like the lobbies of 5 star hotels. May she be music to your ears ...
Thinking I'll head down to Foxwoods Casino and do some gaming.....Tammuz, by the way it is owned by the Pequot Indians. They don't close for any Holidays! Wish me Lady Luck...They claim to be the largest Casino in the world.
If the U.S. wants to take the high ground in the 21st century as a bulwark against state atrocities, it will need the credibility that can only come from admitting one's own faults, one's complicity in the evils that one now wishes to prevent. In short, there must be an atonement for wrongdoings to give foundation to a commitment to do the right thing.
The duty of memory is first and foremost a duty of acknowledgment and reparation.
Happy Hanukkah, tammuz.
The National Day Of Mourning - Please watch this
t a m m u z:
I have one word for you: vaffanculo!
I can see a few snide or hijacking comments, but not the monopolization of a thread about a time for family and friends, most of whom would be contrite about past transgressions if sufficiently informed.
And, I'd like to add, NONE of this is based on religious, historical, and political differences, since I largely don't give a shit about them in my small life.
Cross the border tomorrow, and help yourself to an extravagant, though not necessarily extravagantly priced, buffet - one that includes turkey and cranberry sauce - and party with us Americans.
I used to think you were melodramatic, passionate (only in terms of personality), and even funny. Now, I think you're excessive, prickly, and even annoying.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone else, and those who share these sentiments. In some time zones, it IS Thanksgiving Day.
Even worse in some ways was the unleashing of Euro-American
civilians to kill Indians at whim, and sometimes for profit. In Texas,
for example, an official bounty on native scalps any native scalps was
maintained until well into the 1870s. The result was that the
indigenous population of this state, once the densest in all of North
America, had been reduced to near zero by 1880. As it has been put
elsewhere, "The facts of history are plain: Most Texas Indians were
exterminated or brought to the brink of oblivion by [civilians] who
often had no more regard for the life of an Indian than they had for
that of a dog, sometimes less."
Sir Jeffrey Amherst, commander-in-chief of the British forces...wrote
in a postscript of a letter to Bouquet [a subordinate] that smallpox
be sent among the disaffected tribes. Bouquet replied, also in a
postscript, "I will try to [contaminate] them...with some blankets
that may fall into their hands, and take care not to get the disease
myself."...To Bouquet's postscript Amherst replied, "You will do
well to [infect] the Indians by means of blankets as well as to try
every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable
race." On June 24, Captain Ecuyer, of the Royal Americans, noted in
his journal: "...we gave them two blankets and a handkerchief out
of the smallpox hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect."
again, from the same:
By the 1850s, U.S. policymakers had adopted a popular
philosophy called "Manifest Destiny" by which they imagined themselves
enjoying a divinely ordained right to possess all native property,
including everything west of the Mississippi. This was coupled to what
has been termed a "rhetoric of extermination" by which
governmental and corporate leaders sought to shape public sentiment to
embrace the eradication of American Indians. The professed goal of
this physical reduction of "inferior" indigenous populations was
to open up land for "superior" Euro-American "pioneers."
One outcome of this dual articulation was a series of general
massacres perpetrated by the United States military.
for the many of you have made fun of native americans and their affairs, using them as a way of mocking my posts on this thread and thus disclosing their racism (noting that gwharton was a unique case of an extreme expression of racism) :
One of the most important areas of change needs to happen in regards to there being equal respect to Native American citizens of the United States. I say this because as far as I can tell it is completely acceptable in mainstream society to be racist against Native Americans.
I imagine Tammuz to be that kid at a birthday party screaming at the top of his lungs because everyone is paying attention to the birthday boy instead of him.... and throw in a little aspergers.
"The genocide begun in 1637 marks the beginning of the conquest of the entire continent until most Native Americans were exterminated, a few were assimilated into white society, and the rest were put in reservations to dwindle and die.
In other words, to celebrate Thanksgiving in the US is like setting aside a day in Germany to celebrate the Holocaust.Thanksgiving is the American Holocaust. "
from http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebrating-the-genocide-of-native-americans/
I stained my lips blood red with cranberry sauce just now. Good stuff. Followed that with pumpkin pie. The detroit game was pretty good despite half a dozen turn-overs. Hopefully oakland gets their shit together. Now we could talk about how concussions, lack of oversight at the high school level, and growing concern from parents are going to eventually kill football. Looking forward to thanksgiving rugby some day in the future.
Happy thanksgiving to everyone that wants to be happyRoast turkey, cranberry jalapeno sauce, white and sweet potatoes, steamed green beans, a ncie bottle of Chianti and apple crisp with ice cream.
<burp>
And to all my friends on Archinect - thank you!
Oh my God, the worst effin' buffet today, at a place that has delivered before. Everybody in the party was uninspired. I sat there wondering if my prospective Harrah's lunch buffet in New Orleans for $15.99 could possibly rival this place's dismal experience, which wasn't exactly cheap. I am now considering a fixed menu lunch place in NOLA.
Buffets (Easter, Mother's Day, and Thanksgiving) which were good once upon a time are plummeting in quality. I wonder if it's them or me.
Thanksgiving dinners held at home are always better, although they have less to choose from.
I'm in Europe but my friends still cooked some turkey for us - everyone says the ovens over here are too small for a full sized turkey. We didn't take any chances so went for something a bit smaller. For anyone interested in the facts behind Thanksgiving, check this out - apparently Americans eat 736 million pounds of turkey every Thanksgiving: http://www.statista.com/topics/760/united-states/chart/1665/happy-thanksgiving/
We talked about personality types at our Thanksgiving. It was pretty cool. It is hard to have 14 people in one house for 4 days, you have to develop strategies for making things run smoothly.
The kids called the turkey a chicken.
We talked about personality types at our Thanksgiving. It was pretty cool. It is hard to have 14 people in one house for 4 days, you have to develop strategies for making things run smoothly.
Did you have to provide indoctrination on the 16 MB types, or were people already conversant on this topic? Since *STJs are the most common types, were there many in attendance, which could have added to the stress ... assuming you don't roll with them as well as with other more mellow types? Yes, this is interesting.
Turkeys ~ big, dumb chickens. I hear they are very stupid creatures.
We didn't do MB, just talked about what made people happy and what stressed them out, we did use some MB language as everyone was familiar with it. This was my in-laws, no *STJ's.
the day after the gluttonous celebration of the usurpation of a land and a people, they turn on each other
Oh Sinnerman, where are you gonna run to
Sinnerman, where are you gonna run to
where you gonna run to
I imagine Tammuz to be that kid at a birthday party screaming at the top of his lungs because everyone is paying attention to the birthday boy instead of him....
This has probably been the best post so far. I was thinking the exact same thing after this was verbalized. However, we don't have a "like" feature on here.
T a m m, you're a big boy now.
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