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Jul 11 '08 60 Last Comment
bentropy
Jul 11, 08 1:22 pm

hi everyone

i am designing a staircase and would like the landing to "float", like the staircase at the "Stadthaus Scharnhauser Park
und Marktplatz" by jurgen mayer.


http://www.jmayerh.de/home.htm

picture #4....

any other examples? we will likely engineer it ourselves, but just looking for inspiration right now

thanks y'all! (and its friday, woohoo!!)

 

xtbl
Jul 11, 08 1:31 pm
holz.box
Jul 11, 08 1:36 pm

tom kundig. chicken point cabin

phuyaké
Jul 11, 08 1:44 pm

damn holz... beat me to it, tried to find a view from the kitchen out, really gives the "floating" feel.

also, zumthor's shelter for the roman ruins:

vado retro
Jul 11, 08 1:53 pm

sorry to be a buzzkill but if you're in the states that stair doesn't meet code.

bentropy
Jul 11, 08 2:43 pm

really vado? what part does it not meet? and thanks for posting everyone! that zumthor one is great

phuyaké
Jul 11, 08 3:28 pm

two more

from the recent news article, MVRDV's Didden Village



Blencowe-Levine's Battersea House

vado retro
Jul 11, 08 4:09 pm

section 1012 and 1013 of the ibc for starters.

holz.box
Jul 11, 08 4:21 pm

oooh, nice call on the zumthor. damn, its easy to forget that one...

several detail issues focus on stairs... could make a nice book out of them all, actually...





carlos ferrater's office




aix, scara domkyrka (cathedral)


becker architekten

holz.box
Jul 11, 08 4:26 pm

don't houses fall under IRC?

won and done williams
Jul 11, 08 5:16 pm


gm tech center

Apurimac
Jul 11, 08 5:20 pm

A good stair can seriously make or break a project

won and done williams
Jul 11, 08 5:21 pm

toshiko mori

won and done williams
Jul 11, 08 5:24 pm

siza

won and done williams
Jul 11, 08 5:25 pm

more siza

fulcrum
Jul 11, 08 5:55 pm

Mini House by Hiroaki Ohtani

Emilio
Jul 11, 08 6:03 pm

the last three stairs are knockout beautiful...but if you slip walking on them you better pray you fall on the wall side.

Atom
Jul 11, 08 11:44 pm

Really nice posts! I would like to know the specific application you are asking about. Is it for single family residential?

curtkram
Jul 12, 08 10:27 am

I recently helped design this one. Might not be quite as dramatic, but I like it and it meets code...

knock
Jul 12, 08 6:21 pm

hmm ... correct me if I'm wrong but most of these are not really floating landings per say ... lots of beautiful floating stairs though.

Medit
Jul 13, 08 7:26 am

UN Studio, Villa NM (now destroyed by a fire I think)





bentropy
Jul 14, 08 2:11 pm

the stair would be in a restaurant, high traffic, high exposure...

phuyaké
Jul 14, 08 3:31 pm

mvrdv's gemini residence sort of has floating/cantilevered landings as well

holz.box
Jul 16, 08 4:09 pm

to revive...

some niemeyer goodness...




and lewerentz...

















holz.box
Jul 16, 08 5:13 pm
holz.box
Jul 17, 08 12:52 am

and a touch more cos i'm needing a break...




















holz.box
Jul 17, 08 3:12 am


















holz.box
Jul 17, 08 3:32 am



















Medit
Jul 17, 08 5:33 am

er.. where's the 'floating staircase landing' in that pic of the workers of the Empire St Building?

Medit
Jul 17, 08 5:38 am

someone change this thread's title to "Extensive collection of cool pics of floating stairs" instead... Holz, you're the definitive architectural-photo-junkie

Steven WardSteven Ward
Jul 17, 08 7:49 am

i think some of these would give me motion sickness...and i don't usually get motion sickness. the first one at 7/16, 21:52 especially.

Isaac Gaetz
Jul 17, 08 2:34 pm

Steven, I agree, also some of the look especially dangerous. None the less I think this a really great collection you guys have put together. Good job. Special Nod to Holz.

holz.box
Jul 17, 08 3:53 pm

i think danger is what makes it look more interesting... actually, i'm really into the minimal (almost nothing) aesthetic.

but i ascribe to the theory that if you make it look more dangerous, people will be more cautious...

or they'll just run into the 100mm steel tread and gouge their eye out :)

holz.box
Jul 17, 08 3:54 pm

and i posted the charles ebbets foto of the construction workers eating lunch because i wanted to emphasize the floating nature of the conversation, what constitutes floating? is it a visual lightness? separation? does the suspended stair seem to float more than a cantilevered stair?

and i think it's a great photo...

ether
Jul 18, 08 1:20 pm

holz, - 07/17/08 0:32 fourth picture (brick staircase). what is it?

Emilio
Jul 18, 08 2:03 pm

yea, all those open-on-one-side-with-no-railing stairs give me the willies (as i've stated above)

"i think danger is what makes it look more interesting..."

holz, i struggle with this too, cause i like the purity of those stairs, but do you really want to use danger as a design approach? (maybe the aswer is yes, i'm just asking)

phuyaké
Jul 18, 08 2:38 pm

ether, that's Eladio Dieste's Cristo Obrero Church

ether
Jul 18, 08 2:48 pm

thanks phuyake!

liberty bell
Jul 18, 08 2:54 pm

holz, you wear me out!

I'm not a fan of structural trickery and things floating, but there is some drop-dead gorgeous detailing in some of those images!

The first one at 21:52, the bent metal plates, is a nice twist.

Apurimac
Jul 18, 08 3:12 pm

Gorgeous stuff holz.

holz.box
Jul 18, 08 4:55 pm

a little danger doesn't bother me.

if the client is ok with taking on the added risk for a purer aesthetic, that's awesome.

sometimes a bit of a fright can be quite healthy and invigorating (unless you are over 40 or have heart issues)

speaking of structural trickery...
i found this diagram of the structure (hidden) for the jordi vayreda stair... (which i'll repost since it's so awesome)


fays.panda
Jul 18, 08 5:00 pm

eva jiricna is well known for her stairs, very well detailed

http://www.ejal.com/

idiotwind
Sep 19, 08 12:35 am

this is a beautiful thread. so many great ideas.

David CuthbertDavid Cuthbert
Sep 19, 08 8:39 am

I wonder how many of these stairs are legal in your respective countries

farwest1
Oct 30, 08 12:33 pm

I know that many or most of these examples are from outside of the US.

You can't really build stairs like this in the US, can you? with the rules regarding no more than 4" gaps in the guardrails, and no more than 4" gaps in the rises of the treads.

strlt_typ
Oct 30, 08 12:57 pm
addendum:
"As an architecture discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving building codes approaches one."

holz.box
Oct 30, 08 1:17 pm

ok...

those that are done in the states, how is that accomplished?

are crappy stairs installed, then after CO, replaced w/ the nice, clean and non-conforming stair?

james webbjames webb
Oct 30, 08 1:25 pm

the stairs in my boss's new house ain't too bad either


David CuthbertDavid Cuthbert
Oct 30, 08 2:17 pm

is it me or is that ridiculously steep?

james webbjames webb
Oct 30, 08 2:29 pm

techno, my boss is dutch...he has designed/used alot worse

usernametaken
Oct 30, 08 2:59 pm

P2an, are you working for "claus" or for "kaan"?

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