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fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

guidelines (Federal!)

- must be a plan published by others and noteworthy

- black and white if possible

- you guess correct >>>you post next.

we shall start off easy -


 
Jun 17, 17 11:51 pm
archietechie

Barca Pavilion - Mies ;)

Should also mention, no cheating via google reverse image search.

Edit: Can't seem to add images while editting comments so I'll pass.

Jun 18, 17 2:06 am
tintt

Easy one, we should all know the Barcelona Pavilion. I'll take over for you, techie.

Image result for chapel at mit plan

I've never visited this one in person myself though. On my bucket list.

Jun 18, 17 10:27 am
archietechie

You have my thanks ;)

Interesting plan. Had me there for a moment as I could've swore this could be Oscar Niemeyer's handiwork.

jw468

Eero Saarinen's MIT Chapel.

Next:

Jun 18, 17 11:05 am
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

so it's two buildings with an atrium between, looks like a stage, and then buildings within the building? and a wall deflecting traffic to entrance, white an exterior entrance to what looks like a back door hallway?....I thought Kahn and Rudolph at first, but not sure and no luck...interesting...

jw468

It's two separate buildings with outdoor space between the two, but one project. Some hints, it's a Swedish religious structure consecrated 11 years later than tintt's building above.

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

took some googling research ( didn't cheat, used your hints) - a church by Sigurd Lewerentz  

Church of St. Peter, Klippan, SE

Jun 18, 17 8:35 pm
threadkilla

amazing building! saw that slick window detail many times, but did not know much about the whole project before this thread - thanks jw468 and Teeter!

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

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Jun 18, 17 8:45 pm
Sarah Lorenzen

Easy... Bauhaus Building, Dessau

Jun 18, 17 8:48 pm
Sarah Lorenzen

Not a plan I realize...

Jun 18, 17 8:54 pm

Try this one instead

Jun 18, 17 8:57 pm

that looks like oma's kunsthalle in rotterdam

Jun 18, 17 10:04 pm
jw468

The isometric is the house and studio for Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo by Juan O'Gorman.

Jun 18, 17 11:00 pm

Both of you are correct. Hi Orhan.

Jun 18, 17 11:21 pm
jw468

I think FRIDA was the last movie I saw in a theater. Anyway...


Jun 18, 17 11:48 pm
citizen

FLW's Morris Gift Shop, San Francisco

zenza

FLW - Xanadu Gallery!

Jun 19, 17 12:22 am
b3tadine[sutures]

Tadao Ando - Church of Light


Jun 19, 17 1:18 am
threadkilla

Raymund Abraham's epic House for Music / Musikerhaus

Orhan never picked a plan for us to guess... here's the next one:


Jun 19, 17 2:08 am
threadkilla

hint: the project was published (probably for the first time) in 1928

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

was looking for a hint. thats just ome floor plan for the entire level right?

quondam...

Ivan Leonidov, design entry for a film factory in Moscow (1927) general plan

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

interesting work

threadkilla

Quondam nailed it! Please pick the next plan for us to guess.

threadkilla

Chris, yes that's the "general plan" for the whole project. I will try scanning the other drawings from the Film Factory proposal and posting them here in a bit. Leonidov is a fascinating character, mostly notable because of the influence his student work (mostly the project for the Lenin Institute and Library) was acknowledged for having on Koolhaas/OMA/Rem's archi-progeny...

threadkilla

I. Leonidov, Lenin Institute (elevation, plan)


fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

def. see the influence now - first image that comes to mind - https://artstor.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/moma_11890001.gif?w=500

threadkilla

yes! the Voluntary Prisoners project draws some pretty direct influence from Leonidov's work on linear cities, such as his project for Magnitogorsk

https://thecharnelhouse.org/20...

threadkilla

while projects like OMA's Zeebrugge Terminal have been compared to the library building in Leonidov's Lenin Institute project (glass sphere held down by tension wires, see above)

I will try to scan the Moscow Film Factory drawings this weekend

Dzejk94

Hi student here, got myself quite a puzzle.

Cant find no info, only got this picture. Any ideas anyone? Gotta solve it before the exam next week :V

Jun 19, 17 3:50 am
threadkilla

1. not a plan 2. you did not guess one, you don't get to suggest one 3. do you think there might be a purpose to your teachers not giving you the full info prior to the exam? consult class notes and do some research ffs

threadkilla

did you ever figure it out? 

 It's a gorgeous graphite drawing, and the author's signature (illegible as it may be) is in the bottom right corner... On first look it bears a resemblance to M. Ginzburg's Narkomfin building, but it seems to have a distinctly southern european or maybe latin american vibe... The underside of the looming block (presumably of apartments, or maybe offices) is really interesting in that it seems to have some extraordinary curvature to it, and is split down the middle by a spine of glass (light fixtures?)... Beside the obvious nods to the 'five points' - pilotis, ribbon windows, free facade - the curved glass mass tucked under the main block further hints at some sort of a relation to Corbusier, in the same manner that Albert Frey's Loewy House does (see further down)

threadkilla

Narkomfin?what do you guys think?



http://archinect.com/mwieber/p...

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Jun 19, 17 7:11 pm
Non Sequitur

Seattle Library - OMA

Non Sequitur

Damn... reverse image search tells me I'm wrong.

threadkilla

no cheat needed for those curves - Carme Pinos, CaixaForum in Zaragosa, third floor cropped plan http://www.cpinos.com/index.ph...

well done you killed it;)

threadkilla

thanks! that's a great pick. the ground floor plan is also really interesting (http://www.archdaily.com/522894/caixaforum-zaragoza-estudio-carme-pinos/53b3ac12c07a80790f000295-caixaforum-zaragoza-estudio-carme-pinos-ground-floor-plan) and the project is extraordinary in section

quondam...





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Jun 20, 17 4:28 pm
threadkilla

looks like a MOS project, but I am not 100% sure...

quondam...

not MOS

quondam...

hint: shipping containers

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

http://inhabitat.com/james-whitaker-designs-funky-light-filled-office-space-out-of-shipping-containers/ first I thought apartments, then I looked closer, probably offices and this came up in google images

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

and I shouldn't of thought apartments based on the first plan, but I also assumed, maybe that's just part of it....hints help

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

the rest of the partial elevation would give it away (first hint)


Jun 20, 17 9:06 pm

portland building m graves?

(nope.)

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

too large, think smaller

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

by a storyteller of sorts

quondam...

John Quentin Hejduk, House of the Quadruplets / House for Two Brothers (Berlin, Tegel, 1988).

diego.bermejo

Hi, I'm a student of architecture from Chile, I want to ask you where you got the planimetry , if there is a page or if you can provide me with some files

quondam...


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Jun 21, 17 7:44 am
quondam...

hint: either Louisiana or St. Louis or Louisville

jw468

OMA Louisville Food Port

jw468

I'll start this one with a hint:

This is a landscape project designed by an architect for a culturally-important group of buildings. It's not a building, but this is this architect's most famous work, by far.

Jun 22, 17 6:30 pm
b3tadine[sutures]

Jardim Colombo, Sao Paulo?

jw468

No, but the date mentioned on the Wikipedia page that comes up when I google your suggestion is roughly a decade later than this project. This is in the northern hemisphere.

threadkilla

took a little bit of digging around, but once I figured out the site is the Acropolis, I could track down some really good info about this landscape project by Demetris Pikionis. Amazing project, questions the very notion of what a plan drawing is, and how it's translated into built form.

‘Plans and instructions are insufficient here, for the plan is not applicable as it stands, but serves only as a model representing a general idea which requires constant interpretation...what should be kept in mind is the ancient Greek motto, ‘make haste slowly'

jw468

Yes! Next, please.

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

nice research threadkilla

JLC-1

1966, by a harvard alumni

Jun 22, 17 6:45 pm
jw468

The Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC) by Emilio Duhart.

I'll post another plan shortly.

threadkilla

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Jun 24, 17 8:28 am
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

that looks like an Ando project

Casa Malaparte, Adalberto Libera.

(I've just realized I need to figure out the previous building first.)


Oh - wait. never mind

threadkilla

Chris_Teeter - I suppose it does, especially when seen in close proximity to the Church of the Light plan

Marc Miller - well done!

threadkilla

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Love that house.

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Jun 24, 17 9:22 am
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

at first I was thinking the Aronoff Guest House by Eric Owen Moss, but I don't think that's it. http://ericowenmoss.com/project-detail/aronoff-guest-house/

jw468

Herzog and de Meuron with Ai Weiwei,
Serpentine Pavilion, 2012

archietechie

Fuck me! That's gorgeous!

jw468

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Jun 24, 17 10:51 am
tintt

Lina Bo Bardi - SECS Pompeia. The corridors on the right give it away. 

I don't have a plan to post. Anyone?

Jun 24, 17 11:30 am
quondam...

hint: oceanic

Jun 24, 17 8:57 pm
jw468

Steven Holl's Taiwan ChinPaoSan Necropolis.

jw468

Next:

Jun 25, 17 2:11 pm
threadkilla

Gio Ponti, Planchart residence in Caracas, 1954

I want to say 3rd floor plan - since that drawing is not in the Aria d'Italia volume on Ponti that is on my desk, and that monograph has drawings of the basement (1st) and ground (2nd) floors

threadkilla

not strictly a plan drawing, but I felt like including the elevation and axon as hints, because most hints for this project would probably be a dead giveaway and the drawings are gorgeous


Jun 25, 17 5:04 pm
threadkilla

second hint: it's a project developed in close collaboration between an architect and an artist, both native to that region

threadkilla

third hint: The artist has said that he did not chose this place for his art, but that the place chose him.

JLC-1

el peine del viento in san sebastian

jw468

Such a fascinating project! I haven't heard of this before.

threadkilla

JLC-1 got it! Somebody better guess what the Corb of a plan he posted earlier (I only got as far as figuring out the Josep Lluis Sert was likely Dean at the time the designer in question graduated from Harvard) or he can pick and post another one.

threadkilla

Eduardo Chillida's Wind Combs (Peine del Viento) with Plaza del Tenis designed in collaboration with Luis Peña Ganchegui, completed in 1977

JLC-1

I've obsessed with chillida for a long time, have you seen his tindaya mountain project? I hope it's built sometime.

JLC-1

Hint for the plan I posted; it's a latin american institution, and the building is in santiago, chile.

jw468

That last hint was needed: the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (ECLAC, Spanish acronym CEPAL) by Emilio Duhart.

http://www.plataformaarquitect...


JLC-1

Yeah, I figure, it's an awesome building, but largely unknown.

jw468

Oh dear, you know there's a book about this project. I'm going to have to read that!


I suck at this

Jun 25, 17 11:09 pm
randomised

This thread makes me feel like such a noob, only guessed the obvious Mies, OMA, Malaparte and Serpentine. Would be fun to do the same thread with only detail drawings to really make me feel I wasted all those years studying and still know nothing.

Jun 27, 17 2:02 am
jw468

Next:


Jun 27, 17 9:22 pm
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

going with my gut here, looks like a screened type construction, possibly a shrine/religious place, and maybe moves by Carlo Scarpa?


jw468

The architect sees it as more sacred than a house but less sacred than a church.

senjohnblutarsky

I would assume it's a tea house, but then I have no clue beyond that.

jw468

No, it's more final than that.

b3tadine[sutures]

Lenin's Tomb

jw468

Not quite that final; final, but transitory.

jw468

Here's a hint. This image is not of the building in question; however, the building depicted has at least one thing in common with it.


a-f

Gion Caminada, renovation, Vrin

The picture below gave it away!

jw468

Right architect, right location, which project are you referring to?

a-f

Google says "Stiva da Morts". I've been to Vrin but can't recall every Caminada building there.

jw468

Yes, Stiva da morts.

Non Sequitur

Hey, no googling. That's cheating.

threadkilla

that's an amazing plan with crazy corners! never heard of this project or architect

jw468

Yes, the Stiva da morts is one of my favorite buildings (based on what I've read, haven't been able to visit).

jw468

I timed-out, anyway, the hint image is one of Zumthor's vacation houses, which also use stickbau.

Stiva da morts:


a-f

Next!

(I love this, it's like the ancient thread "Name that building")

Jun 28, 17 4:35 pm

habitat 67?

Non Sequitur

Def not habita.

i should have known (by looking)

Non Sequitur

I'd say it's spanish, has a modernistic gaudi feel to it.

archietechie

My first guess was Nakagin Capsule Tower...and I realized it's footprint can't be that huge.

JLC-1

walden7?

threadkilla

Jose Antonio Coderch and Manuel Valls, Las Cocheras / Garage Apartments 1968-73!

threadkilla

I have about 100 photographs from when I visited there in 2010 :) amazing brickwork all over the place, great semi-private courtyards, and the gate to the property is a Gaudi original that was left when the parking garage, which once occupied the site, was demolished to make way for the housing project. (with a bronze bust of Gaudi nearby, I believe)

threadkilla

JLC-1 Bofill's Walden 7 is bigger, and has more interior voids, but definitely a similar approach to generating diversity through repetition and symmetry in plan

threadkilla

easy one because I want to see someone guess it who hasn't participated yet (shame on all who have to google around for this one)


Jun 28, 17 5:54 pm
JLC-1

this was the evil seed for that sin, postmodernism.

threadkilla

does it even need hints? everything is in the drawing!

jw468

let's hope not!

Non Sequitur

Moore's Italia Piazza.

jw468

I hadn't noticed the similarity between that plan and Lebbeus Woods' Concentric Field until just now.

threadkilla

that's pretty cool, also reminds me of another plan drawing, which i might post here later ;)

threadkilla

cropped version of Piranesi's roof plan etching for the Pantheon...

Non Sequitur

My turn... I've been waiting to snag the spotlight!

Jun 28, 17 8:29 pm
jw468

Le Corbusier's Plan Obus for Algiers

jw468

Non Sequitur, will you post a plan for me?

Non Sequitur

Here JW, one of my favs.

Jun 28, 17 10:08 pm
threadkilla

The Monadnock Building in Chicago by Holabird and Roche. 

half of it, actually. Here is the half by Burnham and Root:


threadkilla

The bay windows hint at the fact this is built in Chicago in 1880-1890s, and it is a memorable office plan in a building that set so many historic firsts. I also recommend looking into Owen Aldis for anyone interested in the developer behind some of Chicago's most notable early modern buildings

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

why didnt i respond! that was my gut feeling, doh!

Non Sequitur

Good work

threadkilla

two floor plans, same building

Jun 29, 17 12:11 pm
threadkilla

hint: it's an unbuilt project, planned for the same city as above...

threadkilla

last hint: the architect would be turning 150 years old this year. I'm out of internet's reach for the next 4 days, good luck! if nobody gets this one by end of today, just move on for now - maybe Teeter can pick one

jw468

Is it Frank Lloyd Wright's National Life Insurance Building, 1923?

threadkilla

yes, jw468!


jw468

Next plan, assuming I was correct:




Jun 29, 17 10:20 pm
a-f

Something in Japan, judging from the tatami layout?

jw468

Yes.

jw468

Indirectly related image:

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

thats the Imperial Hotel by FLW right? (in Japan)

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

the photo

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

i tried to find all 6 houses (from what I read) that Frank Lloyd Wright did in Japan. Only one left standing but havent found an plans yet - Yodokō Guest House. From photos it might be it?

jw468

Yes, the Imperial Hotel. Look closer at those involved with the hotel, not Wright's other work.

Another indirectly related image:


fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

that looks like a Nakashima piece...give me a few....i also looked at Raymonds work....

jw468

One more related image:


fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

maybe it is Antonin Raymond? learning a lot researching, thank you.

jw468

Yes, Raymond.

jw468

Raymond + Corbusier = ?

a-f

Is it Antonin Raymond's Summer House? Inspired by (or a copy of) Le Corbusier's Mattias Errázuris House?

jw468

Yes!

a-f

Interesting project. Never heard of it. I originally followed exactly the same path as Chris from FLW to Raymond, but thought it was a long shot. There are no plans to be found online, and recent photos don't show the original retaining wall that is so present in the plan.

jw468

Yeah, it's an interesting house. It's been awhile since I read about it; however, if I remember correctly, Corbusier was initially not happy about the house at all, but at some point came around and included it in his Oeuvre Complète, in the third volume, I think, as an application of his principles.


a-f

Ok, here's another one.


Jul 1, 17 2:24 pm
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

not Louis Kahn (first thought) Looks like a glass box within possibly solid walls with balanced doors. and even looks like an entire corner of glass opens to the outdoors.

jw468

Kahn was my first thought, too, because of its similarity to the Trenton Bath House.

a-f

Not Kahn, but clearly inspired by him. But there is an even stronger connection to somebody mentioned earlier in this thread: John Hejduk

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

same thought here jw468. I also thought the Texas House series by John Hejduk, but they don't quite match. or at least the Texas house plans I have reviewed don't match.

a-f

I don't know the details, but I can imagine that Hejduk helped to introduce the work of his reclusive friend to a broader audience in the US in his last years. Here's another plan of him:


fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

is it Meton R. Gadeiha?

a-f

No


threadkilla

that Nordic Pavilion plan is awesome

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

so possibly a Texas Ranger (architects)...doing some research...

Jul 2, 17 11:26 am
a-f

No, not an American.

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

in searching for some possible Riga connection found this interesting web page on plans - http://socks-studio.com/category/topics/dysfunctional-plans/

a-f

That's perhaps the best part of this thread: discovering related work!

b3tadine[sutures]

Lot's of hints, the Pritzker was helpful.

Norrköping Villa - Sverre Fehn

b3tadine[sutures]

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Jul 3, 17 10:28 pm
jw468

Lina Bo Bardi, Glass House.

jw468

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Jul 4, 17 1:47 am
a-f

My first thought was a villa from Paulo Mendes da Rocha, but it doesn't have a pool.

jw468

Think hot, dry, glamorous, and mountainous. Also, a pictorial hint:



threadkilla

Loewy House by Albert Frey. The hint about the setting made me think Palm Springs right away, and all those rocks in plan suggested Frey's work.


Jul 4, 17 1:31 pm
threadkilla

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Jul 4, 17 2:01 pm
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

seagrams by mies?

Jul 4, 17 2:05 pm
threadkilla

nope - look at where the core is. Mies is a kind of a hint, though

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

i know i know...i like the 20 question approach, some of you are just too good at this, ha

threadkilla

another hint: this skyscraper is in Chicago (like the two preceding skyscraper plans)

threadkilla

thought I'd post the Seagram plan for comparison :) hope that's ok!

threadkilla

That was the ground floor. Here's a typical Seagram floor plan

a-f
SOM?
Jul 4, 17 2:37 pm
threadkilla

yes, but which building?

threadkilla

when it was completed in same year as Mies' Seagram building in NY - 1958 - it was one of the first skyscrapers to be built in Chicago's Loop in 20 years... 

it also has the material it was built from as a namesake...

a-f

The Inland Steel Building. Beautiful.

threadkilla

you got it!

threadkilla

The design was started by Walter Netsch, who made the decision to move the service core out from the office floorplates (would be impossible with contemporary codes), and completed under Bruce Graham, who moved the columns past the floorplate perimeter.

it also has steel foundation pilings, which is uncharacteristic for Chicago

cool video 

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

interesting stuff threadkilla

threadkilla

a-f, you should pick a plan while people are trying to guess Nam's random challenge? it is supposed to be your turn, and maybe having two ongoing guess matches can keep this thread flowing a bit smoother...

this has been a very interesting thread, Teeter - thank you for that!

jw468

It has been interesting and has introduced me to architects I was previously unaware of!

Chris_Teeter, as the thread starter, can you post another plan?

 Randomly came across this image today, thought why not post? I suck at this game...

Jul 5, 17 1:39 am
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

hints?

threadkilla

it looks like the ground floor of a public building, either hotel or institutional (guessing by security/front desk location)...

One of your two guesses is correct

randomised

Is it Canadian?

Jul 6, 17 3:18 am
threadkilla

the rooms are labelled in French (salle petit dejeuner =  breakfast hall), so if it is Canadian, it'd likely be located in Quebec... could also be a sign that the architect is either French or Belgian?

and it is in Paris

randomised

I remember the building vividly with a bright green facade but am drawing blanks for anything else, I hate this game...

Yep that one, specifically

threadkilla

so - Hipark Hotel by Manuel Gautrand, for the record. It's got a neat figural quality! I would have never got there on my own.

randomised and a-f owe some plan picks

randomised

In all fairness, I didn't guess the plan, I only remembered the colour of the facade. Should have known it was Gautrand, I used to like here projects, kind of lost touch I guess. But okay I'm game.

randomised

Here it goes:

Jul 10, 17 2:29 pm
fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

is that really a duplex?

randomised

It's actually a one family home that includes a studio for guests.

JLC-1

it was hard to find, at first I looked into H&dM, never heard of Mark Magazine either; found Peripheriques work quite interesting. 

MAISON GO, THIONVILLE

randomised

Yeah, really bold, playful,
conceptual, colour full and French, Manuelle Gautrand got me thinking of them again.

fictional\_/Chris_Teeter

nice project. I kept staring at the plan wondering, lots of glass/transparency for a house, and the stairs in plan fooled me as single family...

randomised

Yes, it's deceiving, that's why I thought it would be a nice one for this thread :) More info here: http://www.peripheriques-archi...

randomised

Hint: The architects were prominently featured in one of the first Mark Magazines.

Jul 11, 17 5:22 am

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