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AIA and RIBA...

Aug 11 '14 5 Last Comment
Kalan
Aug 11, 14 1:52 pm

Hello everyone... I'm just curious on knowing the difference between AIA's degree and RIBA's degree...? How is the system like? If it's RIBA, we have PART 1 and PART 2 for the degree studies... A total of 5 years... Familiar with that system... but when it comes to AIA, I'm lacking some information... but I heard that the States and the UK share the same duration of degree studies which is 5 years... Hope I could get my doubt settled... Thank You... :)

 

KaylaF
Aug 13, 14 10:22 am

In the states you need a professional (accredited) degree for licensure.  This is typically either a BArch (5 year programme typically) or an MArch (depending on previous undergraduate degree 2-3 years).  Courses are accredited through NAAB, not the AIA.  You should also be aware there is no direct reciprocity between the two systems, meaning your RIBA degree will not be recognized by NAAB and vice versa.

You can read more about the US system here:

http://www.ncarb.org/Studying-Architecture/Difference-Between-NAAB-Accredited-And-Non.aspx

Hope that helps!

Dr. Architecture
Aug 23, 14 11:25 pm

"meaning your RIBA degree will not be recognized by NAAB and vice versa."

The statement above is not exactly correct; what is more accurate is that a RIBA degree will not be automatically considered by NCARB or the state board as having met the education standard, but you can have your RIBA degree evaluated by EESA - Evaluating Education Standards for Architects which is done thru NAAB.

https://www.eesa-naab.org/

I would also suggest you review NAAB - http://www.naab.org

Best.

@DocArchitecture

subgenius
Aug 25, 14 2:10 pm

AIA does not offer degrees nor are they relevant to any person's ability to acquire a license to practice architecture in any of the States of America. The AIA is likely the most expensive magazine subscription you will ever have.

RIBA however, is more akin to NCARB...and between these 2 organization there is no longer a reciprocity agreement, so you would have to endure rigorous and excessive review processes which ultimately equate to "pay us a big fee" and we will license you.

Bear in mind, that not every State in the USA requires NCARB anything. You can meet their requirements by any number of means, but foreign education would certainly require an external evaluation for equivalency...and the license exam would be required in either nation.

Architect with a suitcase
Aug 29, 14 11:37 pm

To complete a B Arch architecture course (5 years) in the US your course will consist of a year and a half of general education courses that have to be unrelated to architecture. You will study 3 and a half years of architecture. 

The UK system has no general education requirement.

The US system is ruled by quantity- have you completed the necessary hours in each subject -it is an accreditation process. 

The UK system follows quality- therefore it is possible for a 5 year course to only be validated at Part I level ( what would normally be a 3 year UK course).- it is called validation. 

In the UK you gain a B Arch after 3 years ( Part I) complete a year of practice, and then an M arch after the next 2 ( Part II) at university, you then complete another year of experience and complete Part III, for registration with the ARB. 

In the US  a B Arch is a 5 year course, or you can study and unrelated course or a related course  as a BA or a BSc and then complete a MA in architecture.you then have a minimum of 3 years internship before sitting the registration exams for licensing.

A UK architect finds it hard to register as a US architect because they do not complete the general educational requirement at university level. An English A level exam pass is equal to an US High School AP course which counts as credit for university courses in the US but unfortunately cannot be considered in credit hour calculations for registration of foreign architects through ESSA at NCARB. The fact that you have studied design for 75 hours- 15 more than most US courses will not be considered. Similar differences and problems await US architects trying to become registered in the UK through ARB.

What architects actually learn in architecture school on both sides of the pond is remarkably similar. 

In both systems the accreditation/ validation boards stress professional studies in the learning outcomes but in reality approve schools who are have minimal professional education in their courses. In some US courses professional practice amounts to  only 3 credit hours out of 150 -160 credit hour course.  The UK system rectifies this omission in professional practice in the the Part III exam for registration, and the mandatory year out between Part I and Part II. I am not sure where it is rectified in the US system.

https://www.academia.edu/7038297/RIBA_Validation_or_NAAB_Accreditation-_A_comparison_of_architecture_education

KaylaF
Sep 1, 14 4:09 am

@Architect with a suitcase the US system rectifies the professional practice issue by requiring you to complete the intern development program (IDP) in order to become licensed, which works out to around 3-4 years of categorized professional experience. See:

http://www.ncarb.org/experience-through-internships.aspx

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