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    "Psychoanalysis with twenty people on the couch at once"

    Lian Chikako Chang Sep 29 '09 8

    Oh goody. Preston Scott Cohen is grilling Thom Mayne in Piper tonight. He asked him about style. Mayne, presenting himself as someone who solves problems and steers a process without a priori formal notions, said "Oh, I don't think about style. I'm very ambivalent with aesthetics." PSC said "But why does this building (the Cooper Union project) look like that? Can you tell us about that?" Then Mayne said "it has to be that way. That's the only way it can be." PSC said "Oh really." He then proceeded to crit the facade's changing nature, from volume to a surface of one kind to another (folded, cut, etc.), and said "now this is voluntary." He also described the facade as "hiking the skirt" and asked "now, why do you hike the skirt?" And so on. He was drawing on the facade to make his point. He is not letting Mayne off the hook and I love it. It's the opposite of the kid-glove, being nice to the 80 year old man treatment that Mr. Gehry got last week.

    [Addendum as of October 2: On a more fun note, I forgot to add that later in the discussion, partly in response to a question from the audience about a project that the questioner perceived as "sensual," Mayne said something to the effect of "that wasn't it at all; I don't think about sex." All I have to say about that is that you should never trust a man who claims not to think about sex (or an architect, about aesthetics.)

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    • 8 Comments

    • b3tadine[sutures]
      Sep 29, 09 7:55 pm

      sounds familiar. i was at a Columbia lecture in 1992 when Ken Frampton ripped in to Thom there as well, boy that was fun.

      grid
      Sep 29, 09 11:22 pm

      Architects are way too mean to each other.

      randomized
      Sep 30, 09 5:21 am

      did PSC also submit a proposal for the new Cooper Union by any chance?

      awkeytect
      Sep 30, 09 10:58 pm

      It is so easy to criticize and too often criticism comes across as superior knowledge.

      Is there a public archive of lectures like this for the public?

      Lian Chikako Chang
      Oct 2, 09 1:21 am

      Hi all! Thanks for your comments. I should clarify that PSC was not taking a mean attitude at all. It seems that he and Thom Mayne are friends. Besides that, though, isn't it fair game for an architect who builds things for the public realm--particularly a very good and prominent architect like Mayne--to be asked to speak about what he does and to say where they stand on these kinds of important questions?

      randomized
      Oct 2, 09 5:26 am

      So grilling means friendly chit-chat? have to remember that at my next review...

      FRaC
      Oct 2, 09 10:30 am

      anyone who says '... it has to be that way. That's the only way it can be.' deserves to be grilled.

      Kevin Griendling
      Oct 3, 09 2:26 am

      I was actually just at that building the other day. I had heard before that there was a lot of opposition to the project before it had been built because of its boisterous facade. I feel, however, that the building (at least at night) sunk into the urban fabric quite well enough to not be an eye-sore.

      I wonder about why Mayne engaged the building on the ground plane the way he did, because it offers one too many ramps for nuisance kids to skateboard down and many facets for bums to curl up and go unnoticed for days... who knows if they are dead...

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