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    Studio Prix Mid Review: Neuroplasticity+Turkish Delight

    ichweiB Nov 28 '07 9

    I haven't posted in a while. To say I am busy is silly-of course we're all busy. We've only had about 2 weeks dedicated to the development of our Istanbul project, but mid review is still mid review. Prix will be in Studio at noon with a few other outside reviewers. I think we all get about 20 minutes each as he also has to meet with Diploma students. Anyhow, the concept is the collision of diametric entities. Tschumi stuff I guess. it has been difficult to put a presentation together when our ideas are still vague or not fully realized yet. Here is the presentation minus the site analysis which is still being edited for print. you can also go to portfolio+studiotravelblog to see the image a little larger. It is the 3rd hyperlink down. We'll see how it goes-I am presenting for our group. image

     

     
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    • Becker
      Nov 29, 07 1:44 am

      Thats allot of data. please tell me it isn't all made up.

      Also, could you please explain what the digram with all of the program words distributed like the flow of water means?

      For something which is in its early stages apparently still quite 'vague' it has a certain concreteness.

      Good luck presenting, i am sure Wolf will love it. if you get really worried, go in high. he loves that shit.

      ichweiB
      Nov 29, 07 3:24 am

      haha. that is great. the data is trying to quantify program that has the tendency to collide with other program that is typically viewed as diametric. Instead of separating program based on the notion that it is either public or private (as though that dichotomy is valid) we are interested in program being extremely proximal to the other to possibly create new types of relationships. In Istanbul, life is neither public nor private, but a carefully choreographed reality of liminal space.

      Whether or not the diagrams actually do give us a framework to go by, we tried to see if there is a way to look at it other than saying "well, we wanted to pool next to the projection screen and the fitness center on top of the disco."

      grid
      Nov 29, 07 6:20 am

      rem is the master at this. research his work a bit more. your project will be stronger if it is more than just creating new programmatic adjacencies. it looks strongly influenced by rem already...?

      tips:
      your diagrams are colorful but your renderings are plain occlusions.. it's not bad to have contrast, but right now attention is only focused on the top half of the board.

      more text! text explaining the project. why the current "normative condition" does not work, creating a need for redefinition of program (however you choose to approach this). frame your argument.

      I recommend looking at the book published about the finalists in the Downsview Park competition. It's one of the Harvard CASE books. Rem's entry was well work a few glances it.

      I guess if the project is "Tschumi stuff" my advice may not work so well.
      Good work and keep us posted on the progress.

      Becker
      Nov 29, 07 10:30 pm

      In regards to Istanbul, and the way program is distributed there, i don't think it is so much to do with diverse programs being placed next to each other, but more in the evolution of the programs, and how they are constantly being replaced and replicated, resulting in sometimes contradictory adjacencies.

      The speed of this evolution is what keeps it from being 'ordered', as is the case in most other cities. Earlier you noted that most buildings remain unfinished to avoid paying taxs, perhaps this is the key. Perhaps this roughness creates greater potential for program evolution.

      Does defining a set of programs actually start to limit your proposals potential?

      grid
      Nov 29, 07 11:32 pm

      that makes more sense... make sure that is clear on the boards though. I had no clue that is what your project was about. You may want to define the process by which things change rather than a set of programs (which is already being done simply by listing all those programmatic words). To show the evolution a time base diagram may help?

      ichweiB
      Nov 30, 07 3:38 pm

      yes. all that has been said I agree with. part of the mid review centered around a discussion about how program would evolve and change as it is applied to Istanbul. I guess the point that we were trying to make in our project as our initial motivation is that traditionally, Istanbul and Turkish Culture for that matter, has never split the world into halves or viewed the world as a dichotomy between public and private space. Ugur Tanyeli described in in an Istabul Bienalle easy that "Istabul was neither public nor private...rather what existed here was simultaneously public and private with various modes, models, degrees, etc...of intimacy and communal life all existing within a choreography of social space. In this case, we found it odd to simply program the project with the initial concept that certain things go "here" because it's traditionally considered "public" and vice versa.

      So, yes we looked at the time base diagram. Specifically, each diagram was based on time in the sense that the proximity of diametric program begins to create this "choreography" or is activated as time passes to create new social situations. If this is accomplished, then "residence" and "disco" or "office" and "cinema" not only take on new names but become something different and are redefined. To say "I work in an office" wouldn't be accurate because "office" could stir up all sorts of preconceived conventional ideas of what an office is. So, could we really redefine living space, work space, entertainment space, etc... in a setting like Istanbul? The project also serves as a model for how Istanbul ought to grow in the future. Right now, it could not handle the population growth expected by 2025. Sprawl is infecting the city. The real competition entered by Coop Himmelb[L}au as well as others were definitely aware of this reality as well.

      Anyhow, Prix didn't really get what we were talking about. It wasn't clearly defined. Fortunately the other reviewers had the patience to talk to us about it. However, all the projects were shaky. Not that no one had decent concepts, we just were hit with a mid review in the midst of trying to sort out such a dense and complicated program. 900,000 square meters on a modest site.

      Orhan AyyüceOrhan Ayyüce
      Nov 30, 07 10:14 pm

      i wonder how you view various debates going on in turkish architectural community concerning the commercialization and prolifiration of istanbul's development ideas?
      did any discussion and considerations take a place in your class concerning this subject?
      there was a huge blast in today's turkish architectural press towards recent developments undertaken by below organization and the friction between them and the turkish architectural guild. it is getting so bad, it might end up in courts.
      http://www.forumistanbul.com/en/pages/

      ichweiB
      Dec 3, 07 5:05 am

      I guess it is a difficult conversation. In order for cities to grow much money is required. It is apparent that Istanbul endured development in the past that left the city in ruins (after the earthquake) due to a lack of guidance by the city. But does Privatization without capital=failure? Orhan Esen describes Istanbul as a "Self Service City" which I think really sums it up.

      To say that development now is handled differently than in the past isn't actually true. The Yapsatci system that built much of what we see in Istanbul today (most built after 1950, only 2% not) was based on a few controlling most of the urban fabric (post-gecekondu construction). So, for a small group to be building what we see now isn't any different-only the typologies are now a lot larger and serve private business both international and domestic.

      I think that Istanbul will become even more of a significant city in the next 25 years because inevitably, it will join the EU, probably change currency, which will all expand the EU's portfolio. Because of this, Istanbul will be forced to change its image from an urabnistic standpoint. It might sound shallow, but the truth is that international interests will run short if the city looks the way it does for much longer.

      It needs a new model of growth. One with clarity. It requires an adequate infrastructure to handle the amount of people that live there.

      Orhan AyyüceOrhan Ayyüce
      Dec 3, 07 1:00 pm

      i agree with you. i did write in arkitera drawing attention to real estate investor speculation based development versus democratic public interest development, recently.
      part of public feels they have been left out of the process and private organizations like istanbul forum with names like suha ozkan are going extra miles to bring in startchitect weight to blanket a lot of what you agree orhan esen say self service city. more like serve yourself city if you have the right deals going.
      anyway it is in turkish but i did link my article to your blog for people who read english.

      http://www.arkitera.com/kose-yazisi_200_oradan-veya-buradan.html

      funny enough, the response from architectural guild came after my article but i am not saying i was a catalyzer.

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